Some forum members are saying that LIC will buy on listing day.
My question to them is that Why should LIC buy now ? It was just an attraction. If you r thinking that the govt will force again on listing day to buy some more shares then what was the need for ipo I mean they could have allotted all the shares through private placement to liC. It is a bull market trap & govt is reducing its stake in most of PSU in bull market either through OFS or IPO by giving a chocolate to RII bcoz they very well know that most govt units are inefficient & may not be able to sell shares at such high valuation in future.
Arun Jaitely is playing with RII. Sell application & be safe
IPO is over & LIC has already performed its part. As far as the image is concerned govt cant be worried if any ipo gets listed at discount bcoz They will still get votes.
If you think its about votes, you are grossly mistaken my friend.
Many more PSUs are in line to float their IPOs. A weak response will give them huge trouble for rest of the IPOs. After seeing the response to GIC they will think again about future IPOs.
Money realized from IPOs will be used to fund the mega infrastructure dream of Modiji and I believe everyone knows that once Modiji decides something, nothing stops him. Maybe next IPO will have more Retail discount or there may be no HNI or it will be priced more attractive. They need money and PSUs are cash cows they have.
According to you If it goes down say two days after listing govt''s image will not get spoiled ?. As you said that the govt is collecting funds for modi''s dream then again you are self contradicting why should LIC buy more shares as LIC is also a govt organization. If LIC is buying then it will keep shares for long term nooo
Its like saying.... Fund ki jarurat thi family ko to house ko bechne auction market mai laga diya lekin auction mai kisine interest nahi jataya to reputation ke vaste mere hi ek family member ne uuche dam par vaps karid liya...
Family ko fund to nahi mila ....fund kha heee..Its a game being played by arun jaitely. He wanted to bring into confidence the public on very first day of IPO. As far as other Upcoming PSU IPO are concerned, the public will run to buy irrespective of GIC listing provided reasonable valuation.
When people loose money, it leaves scars. If you don''t believe checkout the Reliance Nippon IPO Page. Half of the members are still complaining about losses of RPower IPO.
Arun Jaitely isn''t as stupid as you may assume. If listing of GIC goes sour, nobody will apply for next PSU IPOs.
Nippon valuation is also high & past track record is just a rhetoric. Still public will apply with full force looking at GMP. Eee to ek do logone rpower ki gadiii start kiii or baki sub logg chalti gaddi mai chad gaieee
& I m not saying that arun jaitely is a stupid. In fact he is a master mind & right hand of modijiiii. As you rightly mentioned, He will take every possible step to collect maximum money to build infrastructure to show to the public in next election.
@ABG you are talking based on logic. nothing wrong in it. but we are talking based on past DATA . Govt has to do a lot of disinvestment . many OFS/ipo and BHARAT 22 etf are coming with 5% discount. they need to sail through those disinvestment plans. They (LIC backed by Govt) already bailed out NTPC ofs ensuring 5% profit for every retailers, on listing day. nearly all of the retailers dumped (including me 4* 2L Applications). all got absorbed (167-168 range). it wont be possible without LIC bail out. Thus said, nothing is guaranteed. based on assumption, we took a calculated risk. that''s all.
i got an information that gic in retailer portion is fully subscribed but due to majaor rejaction in applied application by most of the banks ...it got less application for subscription.....on the listing date it list above the offer price..and it is better to hold for long term as increaing the activity like manufacturing,import,export , startup in india and gic have strong financials in its record
I had applied 2 full applications for GIC IPO using ASBA. I am now getting cold feet and want to stop / block the application. I read it online that I can reach out to Registrar and stop my applications before the basis of the allotment has been finalised. Has anyone done that in the past ? I would be forever grateful for a quick response / any steer. Much appreciated and anxiously waiting.
GIC may change allotment price after verifying BID prices of QIB / HNI and discovering average price. May fix the price between 890-900 & 45 discount for RII.
Lic bid 8000 cr ,but big question is what price they selected on their biding? If they bid upper brand ,then no chance to settled any discount except retailers 45rs .
GOOD NEWS............ GIC ISSE PRICE SET FOR RETAILER 822 AFTER 45 DISCOUNT. GODREJ = 163-165 BUYER MAS FINANCE = 224-226 INDIA ENERGY = 4-5 GIC= -25 & 4,000/4,200 FORM FOR 2,00,000 RILIANCE NIPPON = 70-71 & 700 FORM
LIC makes Rs8,000 crore bid in GIC Re IPO -Livemint
This is a good news for retail investors. If LIC has bid for Rs. 8000 crores, it will not sell shares on listing day so there will be less selling priessure
Why should LIC buy now ? It was just an attraction. If you r thinking that the govt will force again on listing day to buy some more shares then what was the need for ipo I mean they could have allotted all the shares through private placement to liC. It is a bull market trap & govt is reducing its stake in most of PSU in this bull market either through OFS or IPO by giving a chocolate to RII because they very well know that most govt units are inefficient & may not be able to sell shares at such high valuation in future.
I applied 1 lot at lower price band i.e 855 in retail category. Will I get allotment or will my retail portion be alloted to QIBs who have applied at higher price
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October 14, 2017 1:55:54 AM
Top Contributor (400+ Posts, 200+ Likes)
If price is fixed above 855/-, you shall not be allotted any shares. Chances are bright that price may be fixed below 912/-. If you have applied at ''cut off'', you shall be allotted shares which may be between 855/- to 912/- and 45/- discount on that price.
Can you explain how the price is fixed. Since it has been oversubscribed in QIB category and undersubscribed in retail. Will their be a single allotment price for both retail and QIB category or different.
Therefore you will get 100% Allotment at Cut Off Price. Here the Cut Off Price is expected to be Rs 912. You will get allotted at Rs 912 minus Rs 45 ( Retail Discount)
########## Cut Off Price is decided according to the overall demand by bidders across all categories.
**Cut Off Price is the highest price at which the issue is subscribed minimum 1 times.**
You can refer to the Demand Schedule on NSE or BSE Websites. Or wait for the Basis of Allocation to be updated on the Registrar Website.
For retail investors it is always best to Apply at Cut Off Price and Sit silently for next 6 Working Days. As worrying won''t change anything.
The Allotment Process is pretty fair as per the SEBI Guidelines be it Karvy or Linkintime. Exception was during @2005 -2006 there was some rigging with Issues like IDFC and Yes BANK. But after a few years Bidders were compensated on a proportionate basis I also got @ 200 against my bid for 1 issue.
But the portion reseved for RII is must to be alloted to RII and also if HNI portaion is remained after allotment this portion is alos alloted to RII e. g. see crain india ltd IPO compont alloted firm allotment to RII at lower price band.
As RII is not fully subscribe then who will get this share? What is meaning of qouta if QIB is getting share? As RII having range of 855-912 , there 35% should be divided into RII ? If QIB getting all share that means RII always have to bid at highest level ? In this kind of ipo , QIB are making money?
Bid for 2 lots at cutoff price. I will hold one lot for long term and another for only listing gains. What ever listing gain it gives, I will sell one lot.
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October 13, 2017 11:27:27 PM
IPO Mentor (800+ Posts, 3400+ Likes)
The unsubscribed portion of NII, Retail and Employees will go to QIBs so overall 74.5% shares of the IPO will go to QIBs hand and they have lock in period of 1 month so 25.5% of the IPO i.e. approx 3 crores shares will be available for trading on listing day. As mentioned earlier it may list around 900-935 and some demands will be there by some big basket like LIC, SBI mutual fund etc so till then stay cool and enjoy the festival of light ""DIWALI""????????????????
QIB was subscribed 2.25x so even after adjusting the balance retail and NII quota, QIB will not get 100% allotment as per their demand. Biggest bidder was LIC and hence I believe the money that will be returned to LIC due to Non-allotment may be used to provide a decent listing. I am not very bullish but I feel listing around 890 is definitely possible. This will give 5k plus profit on a 2L application.