Don''t expect listing gain ,imo some body highlights about LIC involving ,but l don''t know it is positive or negative for us ,if LIC try to buy in lower labels tn its fall down upto 820 .
As it is opening day generally is very volatile. With LIC garnering majority of shares, opening day activity may be relatively subdued leading to higher volatility in Stock price. This may give retailers a decent exit and also decent entry points.
If LIC itself decides to offload for some reasons ...even partially that could be potentially catastrophic.
GIC IPO will not be listed at discount. Govt. of India wishes to further it’s disinvestment process. GIC is a GOI disinvestment, if the retail investors suffer any loss in this IPO on the day of listing, the retail investors will be demotivated to subscribe to any other IPO by any PSU in a short future period. This will hamper the disinvestment target of the GOI. To avoid any such demotivation and thereby reluctance of the retail investors in the future, the GOI will ensure that the retail investors don’t suffer in any manner for atleast a short forseable period. Thus GOI will put its financial institutions on standby and order them to buy at amounts that don’t hurt the retail investors. The GOI can also gift the retail investors in DIWALI by giving away profits by raising the listing price, so as to promote more retail participation for future IPO’s of govt. PSU’s. In any manner what so ever, it does not seem that GIC will list at a discount. Also, if this opens at a discount, the retail participants who have just started to open up their wallets thereby contributing to the oversubscriptions to the IPO may again close their wallets. Institutional investors and HNI’s who have profited heavily from the IPO season this year, cannot afford to lose the retail enthusiasm, they are also well aware of the fact that if this opening hurts retail investors, they may not be able to make much earning in the forthcoming IPO’s and hence they will also ensure not to let this IPO list at a discount. This IPO was undersubscribed by retail investors and the GOI and other financial institutions will make it a point by giving huge profits to the retail subscribers so that those who missed it would regret it and not miss future IPO’s. In any case GIC will be a huge success... cheers!
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This seems repetitive assurance as happened in IEX. I am also allottee of GIC. While the allottees will be happy if GIC lists in 915-950 range, the fact we should accept that GMP is in discount and every chance of it being list below 915... The mute question is how much below 915. Wait for 12 hrs.
0/4 in Retail and all the applications were for 2 lots at the lower end of the price band i.e. at 855-45=810. Retail being under subscribed, all the applications should have been allotted.
These people took the shares from NII, RII and employee quota as they were under subscribed and they wanted to fill the QIB quota at 855 rather than giving the RII at 810. Mera Bharat Mahaan. As the shares are in huge number, 45 rs makes a lot of money for the GoI.
It does not happen that way. Only if the whole issue is undersubscribed will the cutoff price be lower.Otherwise, the unsubscribed quota in one category will be allotted to other categories which were oversubscribed.In GIC''s case, all undersubscribed quota in retail and HNI has gone to QIB.
@ secretipoguru: Jab itni saari organizations me reserved quotas violate hote hai to IPO ka kya kehna. Everyone knew ke retail 1 time bhi subscription nahi rahega, and 45 rs ke discount se log attract hokr badi bid lagayenge. Retail was 37% empty. Agar vo 37% shares QIB me daalte to I did not have a problem, but inhone to retail me valid bid wali application reject kar di. Fir to retail se paisa kyu maangte hai. Jaake LIC ke gate pe khade ho jaana chahiye tha gic ko.
Manish bhai: True, I thought that yaha fair play hoga. Retail ka quota me se proper retail application ko lot milenge. But yaha to auction ho raha hai, aur LIC ko kya hai, vo to 2 saal 20 saal ya 50 saal tak GIC me invested reh sakti hai. Unko koi farak nahi padta ke 912 me liye ya 855 me. But agar retail niveshak ko reserved category di hai to share to dene chahiye. Agar share nahi dene the to ye khel band karo aur direct LIC ke paas chale jaao ya private placement me share de do. IPO mat laao.
@RKT, Aapke logic k hisaab se toh fir 810 p bhi kyu rukna...700, 600, 500 koi bhi bid laga do. Undersubscribed IPO hai iska matlab kisi bhi bhaav p thodi milega.
@motionboy: Bhai, assuming ke apko ipo application ke saare basics pata hai; my bid at 810 was completly legal and valid. The company is offering at a price band and you can definitely apply and get shares at the floor price. Aur ha, koi bhi aake hawa me 700, 600, 500 ki bid nahi maar sakta for a price band of 855-912. Agar aisa he tha to mai ye share 5 rs me leta. Kyu? sahi hai na.
@RKT, when there is book building issue, there is only one price that dictates the issue, It does not happen that they can issue at 912 to QIB and at 855 to retail investors. The price is fixed in consultation with the lead managers or the book runners of the issue. I hope this clears your doubt that even if the retail segment is under subscribed, they can not issue share at lower price band or any other price.
Based on 2017. Number Price to Book value is 1.5 times at price of Rs 912/-. The last five years insurance growth has remained at CAGR of 15%. Hope to have decent opening tomorrow, And profit for short term investors and long term investors.
Tomorrow at 9.00 a.m. you check your demat account, you will find that your GIC shares are credited in your demat account. In 99% cases it is reflected in the demat account on the day of listing. All the best for GIC listing.
GIC will list at 939. For people concerned only with listing gains: Sell it in the range of 925-939 and exit as early as possible because it will fall at the End of day and you will not get such a beautiful chance to sell before few months.
The S&P BSE Sensex and Nifty50, which closed within kissing distance of their respective record highs, should be able to create history when markets open for trading on Wednesday after the government announced huge recapitalisation plan for public sector banks. Gic listing will also be gr8.