*GALAXY SURFACTANTS LTD IPO* *FINAL DAY SUBS.FIGURE AT 02:00 P.M.* QIB 25.38X** NII 0.66X RII 4.15X TOTAL 9.47X **Excluding Anchor Total No.of FORMS : 7,75,226 *Apps Wise : 3.50X*
Now it seems that HNI/NII will not come
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January 31, 2018 2:13:37 PM
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Without HNI, IPO is like daal without salt. No jhus.
Yes, if there is bull run, everything will be green. Even a lazy laggard will move. Many unknown names of stocks in market come up, making heads turn. IPOs are going ahead because of the greenery support. IMO, not "just" because of fundas.
In red market, if the market falls, even Lions and Elephants become tortoises, and big names become laggard. IPOs are not an exception.
Its not a warning, just my view. Markets are filled with domestic money, domestic mutual fund support, and by our own people''s money. Its not like in 2008 crash where the FIIs ran away and the market fell. The attention has shifted by Institutions (mutual funds) towards few index stocks, Now, some midcaps ran 2 times, some 4 times, some even 10 times. But going with the trend, I am just dust in the wind. What if the mutual funds also want to sit on cash? I have to keep going with the trend, and I too have to protect capital.
I am not applying hence in this IPO giving the benefit of the doubt to negativities. If at all its a good sector, will buy after listing and after budget.
Right point mention here.. once market start towards South side our own people and mutual funds will stop Sip and start redeem it.. Redemption pressure will force MF to sell stock even though blue chip companies. No new differentiators.. In 2008 it was FII and this time our own MF.
Those who want to withdraw their applications The Nifty index was working around 10600 when the Galaxy IPO took place. (Still above that too much) Budget is to be read tomorrow, keeping in view the upcoming elections, people will be made lucrative If the effect of the budget is negative, then the next 2 to 3 trading sessions will end. After that the market will determine its direction accordingly The IPO does not have much impact on the market anyway The company''s fundamentals are good Then think again once you have withdrawn your application.
I have contra view here.. Ipo listing is more of market sentiment during listing time.. If do not have good budget.. Sentiment and stabilization take 1-2 weeks. No point of subscribing this Ipo.
My expectation was above 1250 Even then, it was trade on till the evening
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January 31, 2018 1:45:10 PM
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Galaxy Surfactants Ltd. IPO Subscription figures(BSE+NSE) on last day @1:40 pm: QIB - 23.89X ** HNI - 0.64X Retail - 4.08X Total - 9.01X **Excluding Anchors More action after 2pm. Apply for some listing gain as well as short to long term. Total 2,21,608 lots of 10 shares each are available for allotment in retail category so apply single lot @ cutoff. I have already applied single lot @cutoff and hoping for allotment.
Small and New Investors seeking listing gains are Requested to withdraw their applications. Subscription figures are not that attractive. Can list below price if something goes wrong in budget. And otherwise as well as the demand is less. I have not applied
While it may be good to have an free and fair audit of the allotment process but there is another perspective to allotment issue.
One year back we used to have 6-7 lakhs applicant in most of the IPOs and now close to 15 lakhs. To wash their hands in flowing river, people have open demat account not only for their own family members but also in the name of their colony members, dhobi, maid servants etc etc etc.
Some in this forum itself indicated that he had made close to 60 applicants. So with this kind of increase in applications, the allotment ratio is going to be very poor in specially in good and small IPOs.
Don''t know why messages do not get posted to right thread.
I posted this message in Anarchist thread.
Anyways just to add, recently I read an article that even HNIs have shifted their preference from IPO to Pre--IPO for their investments as it has become extremely difficult for them to make money from IPOs.
@ coolsunshine B Yes..the responses don''t seem to be appearing at the right place. Coming to the topic, a few have rightly pointed out that sellers of the applications in the grey market (at certain outlets) have the luck favouring them for some goddam reason that none other than the registrar and the operator can tell.... Allotmejts these days seem to defy all probability criteria...a series of good luck for a certain few against a series of bad luck for the rest that just refuses to end ...
You are so right and hence, it all the more, calls for an immediate and strong joint- complaint to SEBI to ensure equitable allotment to ALL the applicants on "computer-generated-lottery" basis, just as it was being done earlier, during the non-computer, manual days!! The allotment results were duly published in the newspapers!
Right now, the allotment procedure stinks and reeks of nepotism and corruption, all the way.
Please do something about it. Even the editor of this publication should be able to handle our complaints.
Why crib if you are not getting allotments? Those who apply with multiple ids are investing time, efforts & blocking their money. If you cannot do it then it''s your problem. Markets are full of such malpractices, go for the big ones & spare the RIIs Lastly you apply for every IPO & the uneducated or the unaware losses the opportunity. Wanna be fair then apply for only 2 or 3 IPOs a year & ask your maid or colony to apply for the rest. Mean no offence my friends, it''s just business & everyone is trying their best to gain the most
@ Rohilla Of course no amount of cribbing can help the situatio here....There will be people who would engage in malpractices and there will be the ones to endorse them in a tacit way... But that happens all the time ...Take for instance the great war....when over 90% of the world was with friendly nations, a few were still on the side of Hitler and Musolini...
What? In the name of maid? how can they encash the shares on listing - I mean...will they transfer the shares or sell from maid account itself? Two problems are here.
1. If maid sells, she has to file income tax return....a process, which she wont understand
2. If it gets transferred to the applicant (who applies in the name of maid),how do they make their accounting process. Relatives can gift shares, but non relatives? Just clarify...so that its an education for us.
If maid''s legal income is less than 2,50,000 there is no need to file income tax return. Mostly maid servants are working on cash. It is very hard to make 2,50,000 in stock market if you applying only ipos.
Ipo corruption specialist karvy should be again faced cbi enquiry along with linkintime to remove investors doubt over non allotment in any ipo since few years onwards
you cant deny awareness among salaried people and access to online trading and investing in IPO through ASBA else normally salaried people dont get time for these activites.
80-90% of the total IPO applicants do not pay STCG. 40-50% of those are actually liable to pay but either they do not know that or despite knowing they just don''t want to pay.
Disc: These nos are based on my interactions with relevant investors/traders/flippers in various forum so they may not be exact but they still are good enough to give an idea of the nos without exaggeration.
*GALAXY SURFACTANTS LTD IPO* *FINAL DAY SUBS.FIGURE AT 01:40 P.M.* QIB 23.89X** NII 0.64X RII 4.08X TOTAL 9.00X **Excluding Anchor Total No.of FORMS : 7,61,039 *Apps Wise : 3.43X*
Mates, rather than point fingers please try to study the process minutely. you will find the exchanges has beeen running the lottery for SME stocks ( NSE ) they do it via a pre defined algo''s for processing by masking the identity and then making a random generation for retail based applicants. BSE ( SME ) not sure if somebody knows please tell ( I am sure for SME''s they must be following the same process. Now question remains on the Main board IPO''s can they apply the same ie ( via exchange ? ) though i am sure they must be following up all the compliance norms and submitting them to exchange too. but you never know the trick .. I am sure merchants bankers must be making a way out there .. with registrars. they simply cant be contended with the fee based model. its a jungle and money eats money.
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January 31, 2018 12:39:26 PM
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@KING VINOD friends What your view on Galaxy surfacatants?
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January 31, 2018 12:52:43 PM
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As of now No but will Take a call based on Figures at 2pm
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January 31, 2018 1:18:38 PM
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I am waiting your call after 2 pm. If you apply then please call. Please