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Future Capital Holdings Ltd IPO Message Board (Page 136)

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156. mmm |   Link |  Bookmark | January 10, 2008 5:37:24 PM
Mr Dresssssss, u should go for this issue
155. Drsekhark |   Link |  Bookmark | January 10, 2008 4:41:32 PM
Hi,
Please advise me whether we can apply for this Future Capital IPO or not. Please give your input
cheers
Raj Sekhar
154. DIVINE |   Link |  Bookmark | January 10, 2008 3:35:31 PM
Dear 157,
Don't suspect divine intervention.What is the harm in trying out with all devotion and faith.You will surely be blessed.

This is not 5th century story.But it is here and now.

Plesae try for your own benifit.
If you insult curse will befall you, child.
But You are forgiven.Do try and come back to tell the story to all non-believers in this blog.
Thera Bhalo Ho.Jai Jai.
153. Rdhika |   Link |  Bookmark | January 10, 2008 3:05:10 PM
For Mr. divine 156
I think Mr. divine living 5th century and hence talking like
that.
152. harshil |   Link |  Bookmark | January 10, 2008 2:10:45 PM
can anyone tell me that if there is different quota for allotment for partly paid and fully paid shares of reliance ipo
151. FlyingShadow |   Link |  Bookmark | January 10, 2008 12:43:36 PM
Hey Mr.Raj .
No:5.

Wat you are saying is ok. Buy your scrip is always is freeze ( lower or higher) . SO no question about buying or selling it.

Be Smart , Grow up .. suggest a bettar scrip . which has liquidity ..

Dont have Biryani for one day and... be hungry for the whole week..
150. apurv |   Link |  Bookmark | January 10, 2008 12:06:54 PM
Wanted a clarification from anyone of u, does the time/day of application in IPOs affect chances of allotment ie If I apply on first day for any IPO, is there more chance of getting allotment than if i apply on the last day?
149. Sachin |   Link |  Bookmark | January 10, 2008 10:44:52 AM
I WONT APPLY FOR IPO, SINCE THE REGISTRAR IS INTIME SPECTRUM,
I HAVENT GOT MY BGR AND TRIL REFUND MONEY BACK YET.
148. Ipo hiro |   Link |  Bookmark | January 10, 2008 9:05:36 AM
Nobody seems to be serious. Many investors are confused over issue price of 765, and still premium of 600-650, when EPS is notional. Will premium rate survive at the time of listing? Is high premium rate not a trick by promoters to lure small investors?
147. Prakasam |   Link |  Bookmark | January 10, 2008 7:31:45 AM
What is meant by "Kostak Rates: and what does it indicate?
146. shiva |   Link |  Bookmark | January 10, 2008 7:22:17 AM
FUTURE CAPITAL: What is this gambling GMP600?---? Incurring losses 12 cr. 07 pe17ooo odd times current year pe not known... minus figures only. How come ICRA gives its rating as 3/5.. How they can justify issue price. of rs 765.. where shall the poor retail investors land after bidding.. If the market conditions are not fair, what is position... It is all appearing as TRASH. Can any body analyse this deeply
145. Someone |   Link |  Bookmark | January 10, 2008 6:45:44 AM
Market sentiments and expectations beats the calculations.

motilal , edel came in the same level and had premium of same level ...dont do the math sometime just follow the market.

you need to study why reliance petro dont earn a single paise and wont earn for another year but gave so much percent and still growing...i am not doing the math of its ipo and price now you figure it out.
144. surinder |   Link |  Bookmark | January 9, 2008 11:00:56 PM
facts of Future Capital - Price Band Rs 765/= Grey market Premium Rs 700. Revenue for 1st Half for the year ending Mar '08 - 32 Crores. Loss for half year - 12 crores. Can someone explain the premium of RS 700 per share???????????????????????????????
143. pankaj |   Link |  Bookmark | January 9, 2008 6:57:26 PM
bhai aur bahano reliance power ka listing hone ke bad shares 900 ke above bech dena.900 ke above company ka market cap 2.5lakh crore ho jayega jo RIL ke equal hai.RIL ko 20 saal lage aur anilbhai 1 hi din me RIL ke equal ban jayenge.Itni badi amount pe 900 price jyada din nahi rah sakti.Company ke profit aane main 2.5 years hai, Aur phir budget bhi to hai.FII log sub bech bach ke bhag jayenge; rel petro aur petro china ke jaise aur phit kharidenge.

Waiting for views when to sell rel power?Allotment to hona pakka hai
142. CA jaiprakash |   Link |  Bookmark | January 9, 2008 5:54:41 PM
pl let me know about ikf tec if you can
regards
jp
141. CA jaiprakash |   Link |  Bookmark | January 9, 2008 5:52:53 PM
tulsianji , your comments shows your experience and grit to help others.
i appreciate your harwork to get us a clear picture of future capital ipo
thanks
jp
140. Tulsiyan is against this IPO, So dont apply |   Link |  Bookmark | January 9, 2008 5:02:43 PM
Tapping the big bazaar of IPO, sans fundamentals!


Future Capital Holdings is entering the capital market on 11th January, 2008, with a public issue of 64.23 lakh equity shares of Rs.10 each, in the band of Rs.700 to Rs.765 per share.



The company was incorporated on 18-10-2005. Net worth of the company on 30-09-07 was at Rs.242.13 crores. This is due to equity capital of Rs.56.80 crores and share premium of Rs.195.69 crores.



Debit balance in profit & loss account as at 30-09-07, was at Rs.12.07 crores, which has reduced the net worth. The company had issued equity shares to promoters on 27-09-07 at Rs.117.50 per shares, while to other strategic investors at Rs.178 per share on the same day. The promoters were issued, on the same day, 21.15 lakh equity shares at par. For FY 07, the PAT of the company was at Rs.4.68 crores, on total income of Rs.37 crores. For H1 of FY 08, total income was at Rs.31.27 crores with net loss of Rs.12.21 crores.



The company has seven wholly owned subsidiaries and none of them have a paid-up equity in excess of Rs.3 crores. For H1 of FY 08, the aggregate PAT of all the companies are at Rs.95 lakhs. The main business of the company, is into three areas viz., Investment Advisory Services, Retail Financial Services and Research. Research is a pre-requisite for any Investment Advisory Services. So how can that be an area of activity? Also, in Investment Advisory Services, it is broadly into two segments of Real Estate and Private Equity. The main forte of any player in both these areas, are of an Investment Banker, which is definitely missing from the company.



It is true that the company, in its Investment Advisory Services acts as an Investment Advisor to three offshore Investment Managers, which are managing about Rs.3,833 crores, but the job quality, revenue stream and non-availability of break up, does not instill any confidence. Even Retail Financial Services were started in June 2007, mainly to cater to the clients of Pantaloon Retail.



The biggest attraction, in the IPO is the grey market premium of Rs.610 per share. The promoters have got themselves, allotted 74.46% with an average cost per share to Pantaloon Retail at Rs.17.12, to Kishore Biyani at Rs.57.25 and to Sameer Sain at Rs.28.64. The expanded equity of Rs.63.23 crores results into a market capitalization of Rs.4,833 crores and at Rs.8,700 crores at an expected listing price of Rs.1,375 per share. Definitely does not deserve this pricing on looking into its present financials!



The proposed IPO would mobiliseRs.491 crores, which would improve the financial performance of the company in the future. The present book-value of about Rs.42 per share would get enriched with proposed IPO, coupled with the benefits of company, will start earning from IPO fund infusion.



The proposed issue has been structured to capitalize on the boom of financial services sector, coupled with fund mobilization of Rs.500 crores. A classic case of encashing brand equity sans fundamentals.


139. Shoeb |   Link |  Bookmark | January 9, 2008 4:01:20 PM
Well everyone.. Just want to clarify to some new comers in the market ...
Well company is in loss I agree, but look at the future growth prospects.. everyone knows this is in loss, but the shares prices are considered on the bases of their Assets. Future Group has a good customer and client base in India. So thats the reason premium is high ..
I advice you to apply for (8 x 5 = 40 ) Shares.
Dont be afraid...
Take Risk to reap profits ..
And please analyze yourself, visit their website, get information from newspaper and etc...

With Care
Shoeb
138. Lucky |   Link |  Bookmark | January 9, 2008 2:51:23 PM
Thanks No.133..
It was eye opener for me..
As I am also doing the same thing.. But you made my understanding more clear..]
Thanks Buddy once again
137. Ragha |   Link |  Bookmark | January 9, 2008 2:13:27 PM
Hi Guys,

This is regarding Future Capital IPO.

I heard from an unknown source that Future Capital has made huge loss (in terms of CRORES) in the last quarter. Is that true? Can anybody confirm this?