@i For IPO, You have wasted your money in locking for nothing.
Sorry if I am being rude 🙏…Please read and educate yourself, if you really wanted to apply in IPO’s. All the best for your future application in cut off price.
Thanks
113.4. CoolAsh| Link| Bookmark|
November 4, 2022 5:38:36 PM
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I applied two retail lots of 520 shares @368. Took the bet, lets see
@MRavi Sir Thanks for confirming, I too bought one lot seeing your message @ 4:28PM, could apply only one via Zerodha, attempted second one but time was over by that time . 5-10% listing gain should be there and main thing is sure shot allotment which will help reduce heartache when the good IPO result start coming😂😁 DCX, Integrated, Daps & Vital are other I have applied from two accounts hope luck favors in any one.
So habituated of oversubscription, I totally forgot the cut-off thing. Let us see if retail get at 350 or not! My application is at cut-off price will see at what rate they give me.
@Marvi Sir, The whole forum learns a lot from you and waits for your reply, but wanted to ask one thing please don't take it otherwise.Just trying to get the logics.. I see you apply very agressively in all IPO(Mainboard and SME) and also buy most of them in pre open, (a)arn't you going too bullish on everything irrespective of makket sentiments(subscription/GMP) Or (b) somehow you are in very good profit so that give you courage and backup to go bullish (c) how much precentage of fund you use for main market(stocks/Mutualfunds) and IPOs (d) how much is your portfolio divided in stocks/mutual fund/ETFs/Gold/FDs/PPF.......
Looking forward tou your reply, will get to learn a lot from your prospective.
@IPOGainers, gmp is just reference. in past many shares having gmp listed negative and vice versa. yes, absolutely risk involved. I dont follow any rules, mostly just go with the flow and sometimes, go against the flow.
@IPOGUY, you have asked very complicated questions. any way, I will try to answer to my best. :)
I reduced applying in main boards. But, in fusion, I have applied to get more lots since low subscriptions. it may list negative also, that's the risk sometimes, needed to take. But i am confident personally it will at par or mild premium.
a) yes, may be, i am more bullish or optimistic than usual, however, i dont buy/apply everything. b) i have too many losses in main board ipo's (especially those came before a year ago or so), but some given hand some returns holding in long term (including many SME's) - those lessons and profits/losses give confident which one to bet high (some still went wrong, but mostly getting good risk/reward), still learning from CG members and my friends in the group. c), d) about 50% in secondary market shares bought some time ago. about 50% in IPO/pre-open/post listing..etc. (just sold all MF schemes for IPO;s) - no other allocation - which is really a worst thing from investment principles. (but thats me)
I have applied in Fusion two Retail applications of 13 lots each.
@CB.. I applied 1 retail application from Zerodha only for 13 Lots.
@i For IPO... can you please re-confirm what price you got Tracxn allotment (75 or 80), as according to me all applicants are issued shares at same price. Thanks
As expected got minimal 1 lot I had applied. Only applied to lift mood as no luck in recent IPO Pack. 4 Lot Global health will also come rest are luck. 🔊🎙 Interested to see if any member got at lower price band? I got at upper price bad and had checked Cut-off option.
@SHEKHAWAT T, Holding Lemerite still. Unfortunately, not sure when it will turn around.
@CB, The listing was ok, but huge selling brought down the price. I am holding for long term. I may add to average on further fall. Please take your decision depending on your risk appetite and holding duration.
@MRavi sir .. Thanks you for your opinion. I will make my choice with time. I was aware risk is there but it exceeded my expectation, kept hope that it will go up. Though the business is different I repent selling Rainbow Child in loss after subdued listing and not good movement for few months.
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November 3, 2022 10:50:34 AM
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Past experiences of home finance and micro finance show no rewards to investors in short & long term. Just to illustrate a few,
1. Bharat financial micro finance which many new members won't even know of opened at high price in market only to tank down with controversies and finally merged with IndusInd bank leaving this bank overcome the merger impact for several quarters.
2. Home finance ltd with an IPO in Jan 2021 went below IPO price within few minutes of listing. After a long wait of a year and half, market price crossed little over issue price as on date.
3. Aptus home finance still struggling to come up to its IPO price of August 2021.
4. Spandana Spoorthy another well touted number 2 microfinance emerged with its own controversies with founder chairman stepping down on the back of corporate governance & underperformance
5. No need to enumerate last IPO of Suryodaya Finance, where quite a few on this board subscribed including self, ending in 40% losses with share turning a value destroyer from first day of listing,
Microfinance companies with its inherent nature of business like a cottage industry is susceptible to unreported losses due to plenty of gaps & misses in auditing and governance. Both Aptus & Home finance had marquee investors like Warburg Pincus or its subsidiaries who divested in OFS!
The only successful IPO was from Credit Access Grameen, number 1 microfinance firm whose market price doubled from IPO price in 5 plus years. The IPO was undersubscribed with full allotment up to 2 lakhs under old system of proportionate allotment for retail.
With above facts, will not apply in Fusion IPO or even Five star business. Good opportunities exist in secondary market in smaller banks like Karnataka Bank, South India Bank, DCB, Karur Vysya & TMB. Even PNB Housing finance can be a value buy at much lower valuations.
Above points are factual. Suggest boarders here take decision with own discretion and risk ability. Hope this information is useful at thsi juncture.
Avoid this IPO. Better to buy good companies trading cheap from secodnary market then applying in overvalued companies in IPOs
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November 3, 2022 1:35:24 PM
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@ Ou Ai Agree whole heartedly with your logic....👍👍 🙏🙏
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November 3, 2022 1:37:28 PM
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BUT will apply CONSERVATIVELY. risk hai to Ishk hai 😁😁
106.6. Lokesh Chiru| Link| Bookmark|
November 3, 2022 4:19:41 PM
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@Safe Bet: If you are planning to invest in this IPO even after above analysis then u should change ur name other than "Safe Bet":)
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November 4, 2022 12:17:45 AM
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@Ou Ai Thank you very much for presenting detailed analysis and clearing all doubts. 🙏🙏
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November 9, 2022 6:10:51 PM
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@ Lokesh Chiru : 😊 You were RIGHT. I think I finally lived up to my Board name. Didn't have the heart to put in a single application here... Went FF in Amiable instead 👍👍
106.9. Ou Ai| Link| Bookmark|
November 15, 2022 6:22:23 PM
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Well in this list I forgot to mention another finance company IPO , Indo Star Finance where I lost money post allotment. Now this list gets added with Fusion Finance. Soon may be Five Star finance too..