Just see the figures of QIB subscription. Has crossed more than 1 time. If total issue is subscribed 90% now, it will sail through. Likely to be subscribed more by QIB tomorrow and the IPO will sail through. Now only retailers and sHNI have to decide their fate. Promoters always come with full pre calculations. Difficult for retailers. All the best to the retail subscribers.
58.1. arunARUN| Link| Bookmark|
November 10, 2022 5:33:39 PM
IPO Guru (2000+ Posts, 1700+ Likes)
Apply only if you are willing to hold for atleast one month
According to me this IPO is good one.the market is at peak so no grey trades would happen as market is subject to fall. Buy after market correction (@17k nifty). Applying for listing gain is risky without heavy subscription. It may list like Paytm or Ruchi who knows.
TPG Asia owns 20.99% stake, Matrix Partners owns 14.09% stake, Norwest Venture owns 10.22% stake, and Sequoia Capital India through four of its funds owns 18% stake
OFS size reduced from 2700 crore to 1890 crore. Actual promoters not selling anything.. Only investing promoters are selling some part of their stake.
55. AMIT IND| Link| Bookmark|
November 8, 2022 9:30:43 PM
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This one with face value of Re 1 and price of Rs 474 with huge issue size is really scary. Full offer for sale is another feather in the cap. Large number of other players can be looked for in same peers in secondary market. Promoters are really offloading so we should also buy from secondary market others same peer stocks. Company will not gain anything from this issue. Lets us wait for last day & then decide.
only the private equity investment companies (matrix and SCI) are offloading.. if you read the selling shareholders, they are as below.. The actual individual promoters of the company are not selling even 1 share?
The Promoter Selling Shareholder: SCI Investments V ₹ 166.742 Upto 3,705,378~ - 3,517,765^ Equity Shares# 81.72 Matrix Partners India Investment Holdings II LLC ₹ 719.414 Upto 15,986,978~ - 15,177,511^ Equity Shares# 14.18 The Investor Selling Shareholders: Matrix Partners India Investments II Extension LLC ₹ 12.087 Upto 268,600~ - 255,000^ Equity Shares# 32.68 Norwest Venture Partners X Mauritius ₹ 361.447 Upto 8,032,155~ - 7,625,464^ Equity Shares# 115.83 TPG Asia VII Pte Ltd ₹ 700.315 Upto 15,562,555~ - 14,774,578^ Equity Shares# 186.04
55.3. No trade| Link| Bookmark|
November 10, 2022 7:05:55 AM
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Good
55.4. Liger| Link| Bookmark|
November 10, 2022 11:34:16 AM
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FII's company. Only QIB's will trust. Retail will stay away.
First day lowest subscription ever seen in any IPO. All due to negative factors: total OFS, offer price, size of the issue, promoters equity holding of 30% and business model. These factors are concern for retailers. Let's hope QIBs don't help the promoters to sail this IPO through. Total avoid from my side. For members : Suno Sabki Karo Man Ki.
53. Suraj....| Link| Bookmark|
November 9, 2022 5:15:02 PM
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Looks like it is the Lowest 1st day subscription in all recent ipo.
Representatives of HEM securities has been going on every channel and singing songs in favour of this IPO... But adding a rider that it may have very muted listing gains, BUT LONG TERM GREAT STOCK😂
If it will have a great fall on listing, people may as well buy at a discount, if they wanna keep it long term.
Five Star Business Finance, not looking Five S tars any where. Providing secured Business loans to 'Micro' entrepreneurs and self employed individuals. How it is secured? Again to Micro entrepreneurs. Borrowings very high. PAT in crores. Present holdings only 40% equity to be reduced after this IPO at 33.65%. Total OFS. Promoters not happy, it seems. Rs.1/- face value share at 474. Total size IPO of 1960/- . A big one. NBFC for 'Micro' entrepreneurs and self employed entrepreneurs !!! All these, not looking interesting risky for investors.
45.1. ipo stonks| Link| Bookmark|
November 6, 2022 11:32:28 AM
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FV of a share does not impact an investors decision. FV=1 Market Value 400 or FV=10 Market Value 4000 Does not make any difference. Why are people on this forum giving emphasis to FV so much? Am I missing something ?
@ipo stocnks You are definitely missing some thing. In my opinion the concept of split came in mind of the companies with a motive. If members remember, the ACC shares were for the FV of Rs. 100. Thereafter spilt came. Latest one is Tata Steel from 10 to 1 and many more. Before years there was shares were with FV of 10. When share prices of Good companies appreciated very high and beyond the reach of small retailers, the companies started to split from 10 to 5 to 2 to 1. For the reach and participation of small investors. But now the concept of 1 and 2, because to charge heavy premium. If Bikaji had come with a FV of 10 apiece, the offer would have been 3000. Means a share of 10 at a premium of 2990!!! The same with Five Star. Do any one will not think many times watching this figure? What would have been your reaction in these cases for a moment. No doubt you are a learned investor. Do you remember the price of Bata products in past for the products : Rs. 99.95, Rs. 249.95 and so on. Do you think all investors are reading RHP and other informations. Playing on GMP. My experience from last many years. If you like my comments read otherwise keep it aside. But "Sacchai Chhup Nahi Sakti Banavat Ke Usulo Se, Ke Khusboo Aa Nahi Sakti Kagaz Ke Phoolo Se". Have a nice Sunday.
45.3. k l patel| Link| Bookmark|
November 7, 2022 2:24:09 PM
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one should study P/E, P/BV, ROA, ROE and other parameters and not the FV. for ex: company ABCs FV=1, CMP=300, EPS=30 and company XYZs FV=10, CMP=3000, EPS=300. for both companies P/E ratio is 10, so both are equal at current date, then we should check which company's sales and profits are growing fast, we should invest in that company. Small FV of 1 or 2 can be used to lure few new retail investers but cant attract investment from QIB and NII
@Patel Do you remember LIC IPO. Very big IPO. Subscription of QIB and HNI was also there. Were they not knowing the PE and other factors of the company. The present and the offer price, just compare. Why they subscribed the IPO. The QIBs are totally professional and there to make profit. Only retailers always suffer. They are the victims They invest their own money and suffer own losses. All retailers are not so intelligent like you and others. Investors and even members of this forum believe in GMP. Many avoid if GMP is not there. When you see a price of 3000 a piece, you will definitely think. They could have come with 10 fv. Why they avoided? My views. All Investors are not so learned one, otherwise no one would have applied in Reliance Power. Suzlon and latest LIC. Individual thinking, Individual calculations. Thousands of investors subscribe for listing gain only and play only on GMP. Why the shares of Adani Power gone so high within a period of less than a year. All things improved in small span of time. This is share market gentleman.
44. B.M.SURANA| Link| Bookmark|
November 7, 2022 11:13:18 PM
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44.1. B.M.SURANA| Link| Bookmark|
November 7, 2022 11:16:22 PM
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Anchor list 2
44.2. Prasen Ipo| Link| Bookmark|
November 7, 2022 11:48:10 PM
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@B.M SURANA After seeing the anchor list ... what is your view on 5☆ Business finance ?
44.3. B.M.SURANA| Link| Bookmark|
November 8, 2022 12:01:42 AM
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I am not Interested in 5 Star Business IPO Face Value ₹1 Share. I will buy Tata Investment Face Value ₹10 Share. Agar GM mein Subject to Allotment Sale ho jaata hai toh Apply Karunga nahin toh nahin
44.4. B.M.SURANA| Link| Bookmark|
November 8, 2022 9:50:02 AM
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Five Star Chennai ,Raipur GMP Haath Aath Par koi Lewaal konni haal tak
44.5. B.M.SURANA| Link| Bookmark|
November 8, 2022 3:59:18 PM
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Five Star Business ipo Date- 09 to 11 Nov 15k app rate - No rate App rate above 2 lac (434 x 474 = 205716) 1400/- Apl rate above 10 lac ( 2139x 474= 1013886) 7000 / -
Five-Star Business Finance raises Rs 588 cr from 16 anchor investors Good names in the book - 9 FPIs namely Capital Research, Fidelity Investments, Abu Dhabi Investment Authority, Norges Bank, Carmignac Gestion, White Oak, Malabar Investments, Bay Capital and Segantii and 7 DIIs (including four mutual funds, a life insurance company an AIF and a NBFC) i.e Enam, SBI Life Insurance, HDFC Mutual Fund, Baroda BNP Mutual Fund, Edelweiss Mutual Fund, Mirae Mutual Fund and Gee Cee Ventures.