Fidel Softech Limited IPO Message Board (Page 4)

My expectation is 48-52.

Premium 17 buyer
So 37+17=54+ listing hona chahiye

58+...and UC as well.

Dear members, thanks for your response.

Please tell also about when can we sell, if bought on the listing day?

Whatever price it open it will go to LC immediately.
Market always do the opposite of what majority think.
Please be careful to buy in pre open.
I will buy after 10 PM in LC.

10 PM?

lagata hai dinesh singh ko lot nahi mila isliye LC kibat kar rahe hai

i am agreed with dinesh sir. look at kn agri. prop analytics .it could go in lc if open more then 70 % premium.

Listing expected between 55-60, with possible UC after listing.

Sab anant baba ki strategy par depend karta...voh lowest possible sell order lagenynge ya phir upar bhav par bechenge..

Apologies. please read as 10 AM.
@Bhav
it will surely give listing gain and may list at 52 to 55 max.
But go to LC afterwards. please don't put sale order at pre open.
it can be brought 5% lower from listing price.
It is my prediction only.
Actual may be different.

@Dinesh,
I doubt about LC on the listing day itself.
Next (or next to next) day maybe, but not on listing day as per my understanding.
Until unless all HNIs start coming to dump like hell, it seems less probable.

@GJ,
We have seen LC on listing in many highly subscribed and good SME IPO.
The latest latest example is KN Agri.
Therefore any think can happen tomorrow.
Please don't dare to purchase in pre open.
if you want to enter then wait till 10 AM.

@ dinesh shigh

bhai ye kya chala rakha hai dont dare in pre open,
KN agri gave 100% listing gain thats why profit booking was there

here if it will list around 52-55 than high chances of new buying and will go to upper circuit

and for your knowledge KN agri made 262 high after listing, so whoever even brought in preopen also got handsome profit

@ dinesh

what about krishna, it hit UC after listing,
LME also hit 2-3 UC
recent globesecure also hit UC

why you are insisting in lC

at the end its market anything can happen but high chances of UC than LC
i am sure most of the member in this forum is in favor of UC

i have been allotted one lot, still thinking of fresh buying if lists below 50% premium

Bhav
I may be wrong in my prediction.
please don't consider my view.
you can take your call as per your prediction.
Thank you.

Manage funds upto 5 Crores to get rid of non allotment for life times.
Very simple and permanent solution. 👌

@sbipo... some things are not in one's hands. Don't expect too much as more the expectation more is the disappointment. Keep applying ....
You can definitely increase your allotment chances by opening more accounts if you have time and resources.
Best wishes...

@Dinesh Ji,
Itna paisa mere pass hota to hum aayashi karte,stock market ka jhanjhat nagi lete,
@Avenue
Thanks buddy,but I meant to say any hawan,pooja aur devil worship even(though I have to sacrifice then),kuch bhi yaar

@sbipo.. Sub hathkandee apnaa lo.
Abhi to free time hai.....
Hawaa badle to humme bhi bataana :)

pure gav /clan kei account khol dalo.

@sbipo: nothing can be done except keep trying and having some hope :)
For example: Me and @suneel didn't got allotment in any of three big sme ipos continuously in nupur/vivo/timescan and in nupur, out of 5 people for that lot size in HNI, 4 were allotted and 1 didn't and that 1 was me....it was more than 5-6 lakh profit in those all three combined ipos that time and @noorul was allotted all three of them and @avenue too got vivo and timescan both, so its all about luck.....sometime someone may get and sometime others may get......
then i was allotted in PE analytics in lottery and now i am allotted here in fidel too with lesser chances....
so keep applying without loosing hope....some time luck will favor you....

@sbipo,
In addition to what others suggested,
Open a maximum number of accounts you can for family and friends and apply from each one of them.
This is the only way you can increase your allotment chances.
I mostly apply from 6 accounts from family
and 3-4 backup accounts from friends if they are not applying.
Little bit of headache in managing and transferring the allotted shares but
"kuch paane k liye, kuch khona padhta he"

Also,
You have to manage funds of approx 1.5 lacs per account
Approx 1-1.5 lac for SME IPOS and 15K for Mainline IPOs
This will work if there are no clashing IPOs like few months ago
For me, this is mostly working from last few months

@Wishal,
Agreed. All these issues are there, that's why headache is not worth for 5-10% listing gain.
Instead of asking them for transferring Payouts, you can transfer shares using CDSL Easiest. But this mostly works after listing day only, bcos till then it shows "frozen for debit" in CDSL portal. Also for transferring shares, you need to ask for OTPs and other credentials too.

One more (probably last) option can be,
Arrange large funds in 1-2 accounts and apply for the HNI category and then get confirmed allotments like @MRavi and @anantagg.

About my last msg for @Wishal
I saw his msg and responded and now his msg itself is not visible (in between 2 of my msgs)
Maybe he deleted or it is still in moderator/admin/bot's scrutiny. 😀

@GJ - I think we have to pay tax for principal amount also if you transfer shares. Correct me if i'm wrong. I'm not a CA

@Ram Kumar, Yes its taxable if transferred shares amount exceed 50k, for family there is no such limit.

@GJ... for time being let's leave transfer of share part as it will happen when one is allotted.
My concern is even if I manage 5 friends to open Zerodha account. I or they all will have to create UPI id link with Bank, transfer application funds to their bank. After this setup I have to access all Zerodha accounts giving UPI mandate request and ask all friends to accept mandates on their phones....
Or Is there any shorter and simpler way to apply with multiple accounts...

@Ram,
I am also not a CA, Software Engineer by profession.
But rough idea, yes, we should. Generally, nobody tracks these many small details for individuals.
Mostly I transferred in between family only. And that is not a problem like @MehulStk also mentioned.
Only 3 times from friends' accounts to mine.

@Avenue,
Not sure how practical it is, but what I did is as follows,

1. For family,
a. Either updated my Mobile Number in their single Bank Account
b. If they had more than 1 Bank Account, updated their secondary Bank Account with my Mobile Number and Email Id
Mobile number and Email Id helps with resetting, transferring funds from NetBanking, applying ASBA,
and MOST importantly added their accounts in my GPay and can manage funds and UPI mandates.

2. For friends (people not in the immediate family)
1. Mostly it is the same as you said if you DO NOT want to apply as 3rd party application.
2. If 3rd party ASBA works for you, add their Demat account details in your Bank's portal where 3rd is STILL allowed like Axis and some other Banks.
3. Apply from there
4. If allotted, rest is story of transferring shares.

Unfortunately 🙄, I did this 2nd method of 3rd party ASBA in LIC, still regretting it after seeing LIC performance on and after listing.

Fone4 was loss making so didn't even think about holding .
Lic is having high pe ratio and i don't think lic is having great future in insurance sector as private players are ready to eat lic.

I applied lic just for listing gain but listed at loss ,i exited at meagre loss.

Hi Arca Bro
Where are you these day? hope and wish everything is fine.

i exited both with loss

fonr 4 - exited at 8.97rs
lic - exited at half at 890 rest at 850rs

LIC - exited with small loss (exit around 850). Do not have much hope from it.

@k atar
I am fine bro
😬Market is not being favourable to any good ipo so staying away and many are suggesting for a 10-15% fall in market. Started exiting few stocks
Recently global secure gave good returns so wanted to apply Fidel but couldn't apply due to upi failure.
This war is really impacting in all front crude oil,cooking oil,wheat & other food products etc.
Sri Lanka & Pakistan being debt ridden.
😬I don't know whether they are just posting bad news or my mind just takes bad news alone.
All the recent sme ipo results were good still shares are trading at less value.

Hi Arca Bro,
I know that recently you have suffered losses, would like to suggest you that do not have high hopes from any ipo (since many rules are changed, not much demand, less liquidity, no inflow of FII money) take it as per your ipo target and exit taking into consideration your risk. Rest you know very well, you are very knowledgeable and good om finance.
Its just a friendly advise. keep applying in good IPOs.
Thanks

Lic exit now

Sell it immediately and buy LEMERITE instead. Your losses will be covered in next 1 year for sure.

Thanks guys for sharing your views.

@Hamsa,
Already holding 1lot of LME, not happy though.
Instead will buy something from my long term portfolio like CDSL or Cams.
Thanks anyways.

Buy LME & hold........you are getting this stock at 6pe. What else you want ?
Just hold it like bank fd for another 3-5 years. It will double anytime.
I bought 100,000 trident, when it was 6 and it went down to 3.6 something but I kept it hold and sold it around 40+

So you are getting textile stock of small equity at 6 pe.......... just add more and see magic soon.

@GJ: have some stoplosses and don't keep holding against the trend....both going down from 1 month after listing....fone4 was even loss making, from starting i was surprised why it has some gmp even.....
After listing, you can check here in forum other people comments and take some action soon in some days so that you don't reach these levels....
At least i have exited fone4 in preopen at 10 and posted before 10am too....and i sold LIC at multiple levels between 880 to 915 and posted also....
Both these were not kind of companies to hold on....in LIC, i know some people created un-necessary bullish optimism before listing so many were kept holding that after listing...
Now better exit in both on any bounce etc.....rest your luck :)

Congrats lokes... And welcome back with biggy in a bag. 😊

@Lokes... Congratulations. And welcome back.
Not unwell you were busy in prayers which are answered by allotment. :)

On serious note, good to know you fine now. Take care....

Congrats @Lokes ji for the allotment 🎉

Can you please elaborate how is the allotment done in HNI applications now a days as some people has not allotted 1 lot even with bigger application (more than 20 lots) ??

Lokesg i am also 1 lot allotted.. And what s view in listing day

@lokes Sir, How to check Final Subscription Allotment after Rejected Application.
In Which Site.
Thanks.

@lokes congratulations on allotment and good to here you have recovered. Hope u r always blessed with good health.

Even I got one lot.

@Lokes, Congrats and welcome back.

Thanks everyone for your wishes :)
@Abhii VPG : its same old way of allotment in sme ipos....its proportionate and based on lucky draw and total no. of applicants for that lot size, when applied lesser no. of lots than total final hni subscription. For 20 lot application here, chances were 1/7 (20/140).
@Silent lion : i will post tomorrow my view about listing etc.
@R.K : final subscription/allotment will be known once BOA document will come in 2-3 days. it will be displayed here: https://www.chittorgarh.com/ipo_basis_of_allotment/fidel-softech-ipo/1258/

Congrats sir.

Capitalism.. :(

Bhai sab kuch chor do hum garibo ke liyee.secondary market Mai hamari aukat nahi hai.

151000 is not divisible by 3000. Some mistake? It may be 150000 or153000 something like that.

@Anant, how many applications? Might be at least 6 of about 13 cr each. Congratulations for big allotment.

Congratulations...how many shares applied?

Congratulations Anant Agarwalji...how many shares applied?

@Trueinfo ... Don't go in figures as we all know he is a big and genuine investor.
I look forward for his Preopen strategy in Fidel just as he helped us in Aether.

@anant: Congrats :)
And please post proper number to avoid confusion, as last time also due to mistake in mentioning, there were big discussions on your post...and its better to mention from how many applications....since @trueinfo is right, minimum 5-6 applications must be there to get this no. of allotment....
@avenue: "as he helped in aether" ;) and all were behind him after he informed about his selling strategy :) and there was not much sense in anyone's comment there other than @Mravi sir....no idea why people were afraid of him putting orders at lower price in preopen in such a big issue company....

How many lot you applied, can you give breakup to understand & apply properly in future. I applied 243000 shares but 0 allotment.

@CA Sunil - Hamsa's post looks fake. As per one of her/his previous post, she predicted to get min 45 lots and now she got it exactly.

@hamsa
Over subscribe me 1 lot hi alot hota hai, apko 45 lot kase mile
Jawab dijiega jarur.

Mr Learner SK urf ZANDU.........as per subscription, I was supposed to get 45 lots. Which I calculated myself. I thought I may get more due to UPI fail of other members. Yesterday I got intimation of 135,000 shares in few applications / 45 lots and money deducted 49,95,000- Will sell it for 74 -

Maximum Bid by NII is the number of Equity Shares in the given lots not exceeding the size of the Offer (excluding the QIB Portion). Here size of offer is about 13.5 cr. So, that's the max an NII can invest. Since NII is subscribed 138× , so, to get 45 lots, one has to apply for 45× 138 lots I. e. 6210 lots, which will come to about 69 cr. With max permissible amount of 13.5 cr an NII can max about 9 lots alloted.

Mr ZANDU.............I said applications not application and for NII max application allowed was 12,80,94000 only means 34,62,000 with single application. Please check it with any banker you know. Allotment kisi aur ka mil raha hai......dimag apka chal raha hai. Dimag ko thoda rest do.

34,62,000 shares is to get 9 lots = 27,000 shares. So you should have to apply 34,62,000 x 5 applications to get 27,000 / 3 = 9 x 5 l= 45 lots. Each application should be fore 12,80,94000.00-

It will never reach 74 in near term.
52- 56 is max range to book profit.
Better to use it in pre open on listing day.