345. Rajeev Kumar Singh aka RKS Apr 5, 2016 3:47:13 AM IST Reply It is recommended to buy Geometric as the swap ratio recommended n the one to one equity share that Geometric shareholders will get for one of its subsidiaries not included in the deal with HCL, then the total price of Geometric shares would come around to 264 which is still 13% away. So blindly buy. But buy in multiples of 43 shares only.
Sir why do we have to buy 43 multiples shares only? Is there any reason behind it to buy in multiples of 43
For every 43 equity shares of Geometric of Rs 2 each held by them, HCL Technologies will issue 10 equity shares of Rs 2 each to Geometric shareholders.
So it is giving me only loss of around 1500 Rs if I get 10 shares of HCL for 43 of Geometric...! Can''t understand why we should buy for loss booking? Correct me if anything wrong, I m hearing this type of context new!!
Shivajee u have obviously not gone into details have u. Every shareholder of Geometric would get one redeemable preference share of 68Rs carrying a dividend of 7%/annum in 3DPLM which is a joint venture with Assault Systems, France. Now calculate n tell me if u will be in profit or loss.
Eagleye As per be site, retail portion is 69380826 so no of app for min lot 69380826/135=513932. Employee portion of 250000 is additional. Plz. Correct me if am wrong.
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April 5, 2016 11:05:15 AM
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BSE considers the shares available matrix based on the lower end of price band i.e. Rs.109
However, I expect the book will be built at the upper end on price band i.e. Rs.110 ... And therefore, the number of shares available for retail quota will be 6,91,70,650 ... which translates to approx 5,12,375 forms
FRIENDS, SAVDHAN RAHENA. KUCHH LOG APPLICATION KA 1200 YA 1500 KI BATE KARTE HEY, LEKIN RAJKOT YA AHMEDABAD ME 500 ME BHI APPLICATION KA KOI KHARIDNEWALA NAHI HEY. AUR GMP BHI 15 YA 18 TO KYA RS. 5 SE ZYADA NAHI HEY. .. . AGAR VISHWASH NAHI HEY, TO EK BAR RAJKOT YA AHMEDABAD ME APPLICATION KI GMP KI INQUIRY KAR KE DEKH LO.
are bhai 1300 ke karib to definately he n if you want to sell then kindly revert for the same, cai had sold on those rates dear.
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April 5, 2016 8:26:41 AM
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I am not sure abt GMP price however one thing I am confident is that it is good IPO at reasonable price will see lot of demand from investors with lot of upside both short term and long term .
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April 5, 2016 10:09:06 AM
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I may apply ,but still not confident about the rate , it is good issue , long term good , those who go for mutual funds , and have salary account to invest , it is good for then to build an portfolio, but some day or the other you may get at lower rates , but it often happens , at that particular time ,when the rate goes low you do not have funds ,as you have invested else where . remember first priority is housing loan repayment, PPF, and then surplus money if any in shares or mutual funds listing gains are subject to QIB 5 times or more and retail above 1,5 times or more
Someone had asked me about Tidewater industries. I have gone through its fundamentals, financials n growth. Its a very very good company to buy in. Buy for 5 yrs n u can safely quadruple ur money. Means 6500 invested now, in 5 yrs can safely become 26000.
Plus its a great dividend paying company. Every yr gives dividends twice a yr ranging from 75 to 200 rupees per share. Assuming u hold for 5 yrs, u will get 750 rs of dividend per share in a yr. So its a win win situation for shareholders. Buy without thinking n hold for 5 to 10 yrs. If u hold for long term ur shares would be as good as free. Plus there would be chances of splits n bonuses.
Sir,would you please share your view on Coal India...I''ve been holding 1132 shares @330 for last 1yr. All brokerages are bullish & have targets above 400rs. But the share is testing new 52 week highs...It is a high dividend paying co.Last month I got 27.4rs per share as dividend. ... I need your long term views. .. I intend to hold this for next 5-10yrs... Shall I accumulate it or wait. Almost half of my corpus is in this stock..
Agree with u Unchit but what future holds no one knows. If held for 5-10yrs then anything can happen. Split/bonus.....anything. Chances of bonus are more though. Even if it doesn''t happen there is nothing wrong with the company.
Abhilash.L.S, I was also very bullish on Coal India n agreed with most recommendations. However, now recent developments have made me slightly uncomfortable. 1) A huge bonus was given which was still acceptable but now with 2) Government asking for buyback of coal India shares by the company and lastly 3) Government thinking of stake sale in the company. All these developments have made the hugely profitable cash rich company into a mulching cow of the government for controlling its fiscal deficit targets. The company is bound to suffer. Its very difficult to say what would the future behold but coal would continue to be the backbone of the economy. So the company would continue to generate profits. However, in the near term company faces the above stated headwinds. Long term holding would be profitable. Short to medium term would be difficult to predict. If u r holding at 322 something then I would recommend hold. But keep a stop loss of 275. Good luck friend.
It is recommended to buy Geometric as the swap ratio recommended n the one to one equity share that Geometric shareholders will get for one of its subsidiaries not included in the deal with HCL, then the total price of Geometric shares would come around to 264 which is still 13% away. So blindly buy. But buy in multiples of 43 shares only.
Also, the result season is due. The fourth quarter results will be subdued for all IT companies. However, HCl is better placed along with Infosys. Also revenue guidance and profit margins are expected to be better in this fiscal on account of recovery in UUS. Also, the dividend can safely be assumed to be 200% from HCL which would certainly be declared as per its track record. So going by its future growth, buy HCl tech for good returns in next one yr.
I did not understand this, the current price of Geomatric is around 232, so if i buy 43 shares i will invest 232*43=9976. After the swap i will get 10 shares of HCL which is currently at around 835. So my 9976 will become 8350. Am i missing something?
Every shareholder of Geometric would get one redeemable preference share of 68Rs carrying a dividend of 7%/annum in 3DPLM which is a joint venture with Assault Systems, France. Now calculate n tell me if u will be in profit or loss.
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April 5, 2016 1:08:27 AM
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only one application per pan even if u have 10 Dp accounts with same pan u can only put application only in one account ifs put more the one application then ur application will be canceled.
important here is not the dp account but PAN..... SINGLE APPLICATION PER PAN
Sir fir to 1 appliction me hi 4 lot ke liye applye karna padega. Thank you for replye
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April 5, 2016 1:24:25 AM
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wait till 2 pm on Thursday if the issue is oversubscribed then put one lot if the issue not oversubscribed then 4 lots IN RII why block 60k when chance of getting with 15K block is same
Septa sir if i applye 4 lots on day 1 10 am & retail kota oversubscribe to fir mughe full 4 lot allotment miliga ya nahi please guied me
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April 5, 2016 12:52:46 AM
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it all maths and probability of get 4 lots in a single application if over subscribed is possible mathematically if the issue is over subscribed but less application if we get less then required which is around 5 lakhs application approx then u may get more then one lot important is not how many times it is oversubscribed more important is how many application they receive however better option put one single lot in 4 different application chance of getting get higher even the issue is oversubscribed