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350. akd |   Link |  Bookmark | April 5, 2016 10:29:39 AM
513932 RETAIL INVESTORS WILL GET THE ALLOTMENT
349. Eagleye |   Link |  Bookmark | April 5, 2016 10:09:19 AM
IPO Guru IPO Guru (6600+ Posts, 21900+ Likes)
Market says listing will be in the range of 135-155
349.1. Shivajee |   Link |  Bookmark | April 5, 2016 1:06:04 PM (700+ Posts, 100+ Likes)
Your view to flip, or hold for longer. ? in 3 months time, will it move above listing price?
348. Eagleye |   Link |  Bookmark | April 5, 2016 10:07:59 AM
IPO Guru IPO Guru (6600+ Posts, 21900+ Likes)
Equitas GMP
18/- per share
1900 per form

Market expecting more than 7Lakh+ forms in Retail
& 70-80 times oversubscription of HNI book
348.1. NKD |   Link |  Bookmark | April 5, 2016 11:34:11 AM
IF 7 LAKH FORMS THEN HOW MUCH TIMES IN RETAIL ??????
348.2. ASHOK MEHTA |   Link |  Bookmark | April 5, 2016 12:14:03 PM
Approximately 7 L * 15000(application amt) =1050 Cr which is an indication of 1.5 times subsciption
347. rahulabhishek |   Link |  Bookmark | April 5, 2016 9:58:29 AM
todays application rate.... and greymarket price eagleye sir ji...
346. Khemka |   Link |  Bookmark | April 5, 2016 9:55:57 AM (1000+ Posts, 400+ Likes)
Nothing significant in ipo,merger will add huge npas,will buy after listings at discount rates if any
345. Shivajee |   Link |  Bookmark | April 5, 2016 9:54:47 AM (700+ Posts, 100+ Likes)
345. Rajeev Kumar Singh aka RKS Apr 5, 2016 3:47:13 AM IST Reply
It is recommended to buy Geometric as the swap ratio recommended n the one to one equity share that Geometric shareholders will get for one of its subsidiaries not included in the deal with HCL, then the total price of Geometric shares would come around to 264 which is still 13% away. So blindly buy. But buy in multiples of 43 shares only.

Sir why do we have to buy 43 multiples shares only? Is there any reason behind it to buy in multiples of 43
345.2. Shivajee |   Link |  Bookmark | April 5, 2016 11:27:33 AM (700+ Posts, 100+ Likes)
geometric cmp Rs. 232 x43 shares = Rs,9976
HCL 10 shares x cmp Rs. 839 = 8390

So it is giving me only loss of around 1500 Rs if I get 10 shares of HCL for 43 of Geometric...! Can''t understand why we should buy for loss booking? Correct me if anything wrong, I m hearing this type of context new!!
345.3. Rajeev Kumar Singh aka RKS |   Link |  Bookmark | April 5, 2016 12:15:22 PM
Shivajee u have obviously not gone into details have u. Every shareholder of Geometric would get one redeemable preference share of 68Rs carrying a dividend of 7%/annum in 3DPLM which is a joint venture with Assault Systems, France. Now calculate n tell me if u will be in profit or loss.
344. shivam chouksey |   Link |  Bookmark | April 5, 2016 9:48:04 AM
Brocker viwe http://www.financialexpress.com/article/markets/indian-markets/equitas-holdings-ipo-to-hit-markets-on-april-5-should-you-invest/232447/
343. mehul mehta |   Link |  Bookmark | April 5, 2016 9:28:53 AM
no gain left in equitas for retailers
342. satish krs |   Link |  Bookmark | April 5, 2016 4:02:46 AM
Eagleye
As per be site, retail portion is 69380826 so no of app for min lot 69380826/135=513932. Employee portion of 250000 is additional. Plz. Correct me if am wrong.
342.1. satish krs |   Link |  Bookmark | April 5, 2016 4:14:07 AM
BSE
342.2. Eagleye |   Link |  Bookmark | April 5, 2016 10:05:15 AM
IPO Guru IPO Guru (6600+ Posts, 21900+ Likes)
BSE considers the shares available matrix based on the lower end of price band i.e. Rs.109

However, I expect the book will be built at the upper end on price band i.e. Rs.110 ...
And therefore, the number of shares available for retail quota will be 6,91,70,650 ...
which translates to approx 5,12,375 forms
341. MAHESH GORDHAN PATEL |   Link |  Bookmark | April 5, 2016 3:02:56 AM
FRIENDS, SAVDHAN RAHENA. KUCHH LOG APPLICATION KA 1200 YA 1500 KI BATE KARTE HEY, LEKIN RAJKOT YA AHMEDABAD ME 500 ME BHI APPLICATION KA KOI KHARIDNEWALA NAHI HEY. AUR GMP BHI 15 YA 18 TO KYA RS. 5 SE ZYADA NAHI HEY. .. . AGAR VISHWASH NAHI HEY, TO EK BAR RAJKOT YA AHMEDABAD ME APPLICATION KI GMP KI INQUIRY KAR KE DEKH LO.
341.3. Chem cho |   Link |  Bookmark | April 5, 2016 9:09:06 AM
IPO Guru IPO Guru (2500+ Posts, 2700+ Likes)
I may apply ,but still not confident about the rate , it is good issue , long term good , those who go for mutual funds , and have salary account to invest , it is good for then to build an portfolio, but some day or the other you may get at lower rates , but it often happens , at that particular time ,when the rate goes low you do not have funds ,as you have invested else where .
remember first priority is housing loan repayment, PPF, and then surplus money if any in shares or mutual funds
listing gains are subject to QIB 5 times or more and retail above 1,5 times or more
341.4. Chintan Thaker |   Link |  Bookmark | April 5, 2016 9:29:12 AM
You are wrong I had sold 3 Apps yesterday evening @ 1550
340. Rajeev Kumar Singh aka RKS |   Link |  Bookmark | April 5, 2016 2:58:09 AM
Someone had asked me about Tidewater industries. I have gone through its fundamentals, financials n growth. Its a very very good company to buy in. Buy for 5 yrs n u can safely quadruple ur money. Means 6500 invested now, in 5 yrs can safely become 26000.
340.9. Rajeev Kumar Singh aka RKS |   Link |  Bookmark | April 5, 2016 12:53:35 PM
Abhilash.L.S, I was also very bullish on Coal India n agreed with most recommendations. However, now recent developments have made me slightly uncomfortable.
1) A huge bonus was given which was still acceptable but now with
2) Government asking for buyback of coal India shares by the company and lastly
3) Government thinking of stake sale in the company.
All these developments have made the hugely profitable cash rich company into a mulching cow of the government for controlling its fiscal deficit targets. The company is bound to suffer.
Its very difficult to say what would the future behold but coal would continue to be the backbone of the economy. So the company would continue to generate profits. However, in the near term company faces the above stated headwinds. Long term holding would be profitable. Short to medium term would be difficult to predict. If u r holding at 322 something then I would recommend hold. But keep a stop loss of 275. Good luck friend.
340.10. Abhilash.L.S. |   Link |  Bookmark | April 5, 2016 1:15:47 PM
Thank you sir.....
339. Rajeev Kumar Singh aka RKS |   Link |  Bookmark | April 5, 2016 2:47:13 AM
It is recommended to buy Geometric as the swap ratio recommended n the one to one equity share that Geometric shareholders will get for one of its subsidiaries not included in the deal with HCL, then the total price of Geometric shares would come around to 264 which is still 13% away. So blindly buy. But buy in multiples of 43 shares only.
339.3. Rajeev Kumar Singh aka RKS |   Link |  Bookmark | April 5, 2016 12:21:29 PM
Every shareholder of Geometric would get one redeemable preference share of 68Rs carrying a dividend of 7%/annum in 3DPLM which is a joint venture with Assault Systems, France. Now calculate n tell me if u will be in profit or loss.
339.4. Rajeev Kumar Singh aka RKS |   Link |  Bookmark | April 5, 2016 12:24:54 PM
Joint venture with Dassault Systems.
338. NeoTrade |   Link |  Bookmark | April 5, 2016 1:46:30 AM
IPO Mentor IPO Mentor (700+ Posts, 300+ Likes)
Apply with full force...no brainer!
337. Pankajvbansal |   Link |  Bookmark | April 5, 2016 1:31:28 AM
What is the total number of retail investors of India? Just read somewhere that the retail quota is 5L something.. and so curious.
336. shivam chouksey |   Link |  Bookmark | April 5, 2016 12:03:40 AM
Septa ji single pan & single demat par 1 se jada applyecation de sakte hai kya if yes to maximam kitne
336.2. shivam chouksey |   Link |  Bookmark | April 5, 2016 12:15:25 AM
Sir fir to 1 appliction me hi 4 lot ke liye applye karna padega. Thank you for replye
336.3. Septa |   Link |  Bookmark | April 5, 2016 12:24:25 AM (4000+ Posts, 4600+ Likes)
wait till 2 pm on Thursday if the issue is oversubscribed then put one lot if the issue not oversubscribed then 4 lots IN RII why block 60k when chance of getting with 15K block is same
335. shivam chouksey |   Link |  Bookmark | April 4, 2016 11:44:22 PM
Septa sir if i applye 4 lots on day 1 10 am & retail kota oversubscribe to fir mughe full 4 lot allotment miliga ya nahi please guied me
335.1. Septa |   Link |  Bookmark | April 4, 2016 11:52:46 PM (4000+ Posts, 4600+ Likes)
it all maths and probability of get 4 lots in a single application if over subscribed is possible mathematically if the issue is over subscribed but less application if we get less then required which is around 5 lakhs application approx then u may get more then one lot important is not how many times it is oversubscribed more important is how many application they receive however better option put one single lot in 4 different application chance of getting get higher even the issue is oversubscribed
334. satish krs |   Link |  Bookmark | April 4, 2016 11:02:58 PM
Eagleye or septa jee
Plz advice me, apply min lot or maximum lot?.........
334.1. Septa |   Link |  Bookmark | April 4, 2016 11:39:19 PM (4000+ Posts, 4600+ Likes)
if the issue is over subscribed more then 1 time then min lot if less then one max lot
334.2. Eagleye |   Link |  Bookmark | April 5, 2016 1:02:55 AM
IPO Guru IPO Guru (6600+ Posts, 21900+ Likes)
Market is expecting :

Retail = >7 lakh applications
HNI = 70X Oversubscription
333. satish krs |   Link |  Bookmark | April 4, 2016 10:58:39 PM
Required min(135 sh)application for fully subscribe retail quota =513932 app.
333.1. Septa |   Link |  Bookmark | April 4, 2016 11:54:49 PM (4000+ Posts, 4600+ Likes)
yap at least 513932 people will get 135 shares
333.2. Eagleye |   Link |  Bookmark | April 5, 2016 12:59:33 AM
IPO Guru IPO Guru (6600+ Posts, 21900+ Likes)
Please recheck your calculations ... You may not have reduced the 250,000 shares reserved for employees quota ...

It is 5,12,375 forms for 1X retail quota

And the market is expecting over 7lakh firms in retail applications alone ... So go do your maths ... :)
332. Arjun Patel |   Link |  Bookmark | April 4, 2016 10:33:58 PM
GMPs :- 18.5-19.75
Application Buyer 1875
331. Eagleye |   Link |  Bookmark | April 4, 2016 10:22:57 PM
IPO Guru IPO Guru (6600+ Posts, 21900+ Likes)
GMP 18/-