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690. Septa |   Link |  Bookmark | April 8, 2016 10:32:39 AM (4000+ Posts, 4600+ Likes)
I thought i will not react and write about tiff between members in the forum however not doing or writing would be wrong on my part. IMO in this forum we all a big family Issue is part of every real relationship. The key is knowing how to resolve the fight without breaking up the friendship. Often it is the individual who knows how to communicate by sharing his feelings and not pointing fingers who can diffthe situation. Since both members of the friendship are feeling offensive, it becomes a risky and sensitive venture. Arjun and RKS resolve your differences and you will come out with a stronger member of this chittorgarh family at the other end.

So Arjun please do not leave your family and RKS next time someone hurt ur feeling be little less fiery and settle the issue with a claim head. When u came first and said Dr LAL apply i said u must be paid stooge and my reasoning was how come some one come here and say a 50 PE is a good IPO and u went offensive and had ur mind however better option would have been explaining why u think 50 PE is good investment however i did not want a fight so i said sorry mate pls contribute.


Arjun so pls contribute for betterment of the chittogarh family and RKS pls hold ur gun from firing and contribute

690.4. Shivajee |   Link |  Bookmark | April 8, 2016 6:09:05 PM (700+ Posts, 100+ Likes)
Yes sir, i will try.
690.5. chinu |   Link |  Bookmark | April 11, 2016 1:55:49 PM
Please tell me about ALLOCATION process... I thought if retail subscribed 1.4 times, then atleast I will get 50% allocation...
689. DINESH GUPTA |   Link |  Bookmark | April 8, 2016 10:15:20 AM
Hello Friends
Today Application Rate Rs. 1900 at Hisar.
Is it Fair price please confirm
688. Deepak Bansal |   Link |  Bookmark | April 8, 2016 9:55:57 AM
Hi Guys, I registered on this site today itself. I am from Gurgaon, Haryana. I am having same interest as all of us - in trading, applying for IPOs.
688.7. shivam chouksey |   Link |  Bookmark | April 8, 2016 11:11:45 AM
I am bhopal MP way not we creat a whats app grop
688.8. Nikhil Khurana |   Link |  Bookmark | April 8, 2016 2:26:43 PM
Chennai Lad too :D
687. Arup |   Link |  Bookmark | April 8, 2016 9:51:22 AM (900+ Posts, 300+ Likes)
RKS,STARS IPO,ARJUN PATEL,SEPTA,UCKIT,EGLEYE,PINKYJI,GRAVITA,M GUPTA,N ALL, LET FORGET PAST.TODAY IS OUR NEW YEAR! HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL
687.1. Rajeev Kumar Singh aka RKS |   Link |  Bookmark | April 8, 2016 1:53:17 PM
Happy new yr dear.
686. mehul mehta |   Link |  Bookmark | April 8, 2016 9:46:46 AM
i think if land t infotech has np ratio above 25 then its good ipo
685. mehul mehta |   Link |  Bookmark | April 8, 2016 9:27:47 AM
i read from some book
685.1. Septa |   Link |  Bookmark | April 8, 2016 10:37:22 AM (4000+ Posts, 4600+ Likes)
Dory can u pleases send me details of the book..... do not forget :)
684. shivam chouksey |   Link |  Bookmark | April 8, 2016 9:19:32 AM
Taryocare issu kab open ho raha hai and price band kaya hi
683. mehul mehta |   Link |  Bookmark | April 8, 2016 7:59:59 AM
septa sir thyrocare net profit margin 25 % and eps 12 so fair value 12*25 = 300 then ipo price around 425 is it not over value ?
683.3. Chem cho |   Link |  Bookmark | April 8, 2016 10:05:58 AM
IPO Guru IPO Guru (2500+ Posts, 2700+ Likes)
How is Fair Value Determined?



Power Integrations, Inc.
One of the most important investment principles is to buy great companies at a good price. Finding great businesses is the easy part, but how do you know if its stock is overvalued or undervalued? The Roen Financial Report calculates “Fair Value” for each of the +/- 250 companies it tracks so that you can know if a stock is cheap or expensive.

Fair value is a measure of where a stock’s current trading price is in relation to what we believe a fair price is for that stock. If a stock looks cheap, a fair value meter for that company will show it as undervalued on its Company Profile page. Conversely if a stock looks expensive, the fair value meter will warn readers with an overvalued signal. (to see a sample company profile click here).



Calculating Fair Value

What is the best way to determine fair value? It is a question many analysts ask, and different foreEPS) to get the truest picture of what a company’s fair value should be.

For example, Power Integrations (POWI) has performed well since it was entered into the Paradigm Portfolio in May 2009. At the end of March 2012, however, it still looked like a good value. The math below explains why this was so for POWI.

Fair Value Calculation

When you average a combination of the EPS at that time, three years of trailing EPS and three years of projected EPS, it comes out to 1.44. The bottom of the fair price range was determined by taking the median of annual P/E lows for the past three years (20.48), and multiplying it by the average EPS determined above (1.44) to get a low fair price of 29.49. The top of the fair price range was similarly calculated by using the median of annual PE highs for the past three years (37.17) multiplied by the average EPS (1.44) to get a high fair price range of 53.52.

The stock price at that time, 37.12, was shown as a percentage of where it fell in the fair price range. This value was categorized in the following manner:

80-100% of fair price range or over top fair price = Overvalued

60-80% of fair price range = Above fair value

40-60% of fair price range = Fair value

20-40% of fair price range = Below fair value

0-20% of fair price range or below bottom fair price = Undervalued



Fair Value Chart

When Fair Value is graphed over time, it gives a good indication of how a company’s stock price has changed in relation to valuation. Below is an example of the interactive Fair Value graph for the Swiss smart grid company ABB Ltd. ADR (ABB). The dark blue line shows the weekly closing stock price, and the shaded area is our estimate of the fair value range for the company. As can be seen below, this information is very useful for investors.


For example, the when the ABB was considered above fair value to overvalued for four months), the stock dropped 39% over the next 3 months. Conversely, when ABB reached undervalued levels in both the second half of 2011, and thru spring of 2012, investors would have done well to buy when it was trading in the $16 – $17/share range. Since the beginning of 2013, the stock has jumped back into the overvalued range, so holders of the stock may want to reconsider their position.

Company Profiles With No Fair Value

If there is not enough earnings data to calculate fair value for a company, the Fair Value Meter will indicate “Not Enough Data” and the Fair Value Chart will not appear on the company profile.

683.4. Shivajee |   Link |  Bookmark | April 8, 2016 10:33:42 AM (700+ Posts, 100+ Likes)
Thanks Chem cho!!

You''re an educator. Salutes
682. Rajeev Kumar Singh aka RKS |   Link |  Bookmark | April 8, 2016 5:06:36 AM
Friends an open heart to all of u. Boarders here r trying time n again to intice me to react. I m trying my best to avoid. However, poorly framed sarcastic jokes n comments, crass crude comments n humors would force me to react sharply. So I request u all to avoid the due confrontation. Be respectful. Everyone here is there to share his/her experience n to learn. I have learned a lot from not only Septa but Gravita, Eagleye, Unchit,M Gupta n many others. Now everyone will ask why I blow my fevery time some crap happens. I m in a profession involving safety n security of the nation, the most pious profession any one can chose. U live ur day n can sleep peacefully becawe sacrifice our life for it.Markets is my secondary interest n I have learned the hard way. Still learning. However, someone crossing the line would be given a fit reply in appropriate manner that he deserves. Its in my nature n attitude. So I m asking all to avoid any comments contrary to the spirit of respect n mutual understanding. We r here to make money. Let''s make it n in return learn from each other. I can''t obviously talk openly about the profession I m in due to security reasons but expect ur cooperation in the matter. Please don''t get after me. U corner me n I will strike back viciously. Thx.
682.5. Rajeev Kumar Singh aka RKS |   Link |  Bookmark | April 8, 2016 1:05:18 PM
I once again reiterate. Please respect everyone. Do not pass derogatory remarks. What happened between me n starsipo happened is no ones business. Its done n dusted with. The forum might think I overreact. But if below the belt hitting is done then don''t expect morality from my side.
682.6. Septa |   Link |  Bookmark | April 8, 2016 2:31:04 PM (4000+ Posts, 4600+ Likes)
point taken
681. Abhilash.L.S. |   Link |  Bookmark | April 8, 2016 3:16:26 AM
SIR, Yesterday I saw some news popping up in Bloomberg channel ... It was about Vodafone IPO. They are searching for merchant bankers for the IPO. & by next month merchant banker will be confirmed . Rajeev Kumar Sir & Septa Sir & all, I''m a Malayala. .. In Madrubhumi news paper there is a news regarding Hindustan Aeronautical IPO....Any idea about these two?????
681.1. Rajeev Kumar Singh aka RKS |   Link |  Bookmark | April 8, 2016 4:36:14 AM
Dear Abhilash, the news u r hearing is true. Vodafone IPO would be filed by most probably with SEBI by end May. And HAL is coming with IPO in the yr end. Most probably by Dec.
680. Arjun Patel |   Link |  Bookmark | April 8, 2016 12:56:45 AM
On this forum i enjoyed a lot.
Made Septa as friend.
However leaving this becaof Rks ji
He finds me illiterate. I post correct gmp however they can be 5% +-
I never say to apply or not. But just want to inform this group whatever new i get from my source etc.

Thanks
680.9. Rajeev Kumar Singh aka RKS |   Link |  Bookmark | April 8, 2016 11:31:39 AM
Khemka that''s the low IQ that u have. U brother first learn what serving the nation means. We sacrifice ourselves for idiots like u. That''s the dichotomy. The day people like u lose one family member in such duties then u will realise what I meant when I said we sacrifice ourselves to let u all sleep peacefully. U people can only pass derogatory remarks. Unfortunately that''s the problem with this country.
680.10. SONMAYA |   Link |  Bookmark | April 8, 2016 2:10:08 PM
IPO Guru IPO Guru (1300+ Posts, 500+ Likes)
Dear....arjun Patel.....here on chittor board...people...like..u...and...egleye...needed...for giving....accurate... GMP...and both of u were doing it..regularly..... Please....don''t .......don''t ....leave...this board.......and if unfortunately.. If u have left....then it is my ....HUMBLE....REQUEST...PLEASE....DO....COME...BACK...IMMEDIATELY.........BECAUSE.....THERE R MANY IPOS R LINED UP...IN SHORT TIME....AND YR PRESENCE. IS MOSTLY NEEDED.........PLEASE...OBLIGE ME.......GOD BLESS.U.....TAKE.LIGHTLY WT RKS...SAID.....THANKS IN ADVANCE
679. abhinavgupta |   Link |  Bookmark | April 8, 2016 12:18:51 AM (200+ Posts)
when in allotment date and listing date for equitas
679.1. Rajeev Kumar Singh aka RKS |   Link |  Bookmark | April 8, 2016 4:38:52 AM
Guessing only but listing should be on 18. Eagleye would be a better auth.
678. Tarun vanjani |   Link |  Bookmark | April 7, 2016 11:54:10 PM
Can anybody tell me how to calculate pe ratio with a proper example?
678.2. ipo query |   Link |  Bookmark | April 8, 2016 12:12:26 AM
P/E ratio= Stock price / EPS
means price of share divided by earning per share
Ex. Like hind zinc currently at Rs 160 per share & the eps is like Rs 19 that means P/E= 160/19 i.e. 8.42
678.3. Tarun vanjani |   Link |  Bookmark | April 8, 2016 12:13:08 AM
Thnks eagleye
677. Arjun Patel |   Link |  Bookmark | April 7, 2016 11:35:18 PM
Septa get ready for Best IPO of this Year
THYROCARE
677.17. Rajeev Kumar Singh aka RKS |   Link |  Bookmark | April 8, 2016 1:58:47 PM
Khemkaji grow up for once.
677.18. NeoTrade |   Link |  Bookmark | April 8, 2016 11:15:28 PM
IPO Mentor IPO Mentor (700+ Posts, 300+ Likes)
I hear thyrocare will be priced between 2000 cr to 2400 cr.!
676. Arjun Patel |   Link |  Bookmark | April 7, 2016 11:30:56 PM
GMPs:- 21.75-22.5
Application 2200
@Rajkot

Thyrocare Technologies Ltd.
Issue Opens:- 26th April
Issue Size 480 Cr.
Expected Price 445-465
NAV Rs. 56 EPS Rs. 12 PE 40X

Application 550-600@ Rajkot

L&T Infotect Ipo
Issue opens 26th April
Issue Size 2000Cr.
Expected Price 1100
EPS Rs. 57 PE 19X
676.13. Khemka |   Link |  Bookmark | April 8, 2016 11:59:12 AM (1000+ Posts, 400+ Likes)
If so then black list him again
676.14. Rajeev Kumar Singh aka RKS |   Link |  Bookmark | April 8, 2016 2:04:12 PM
Khemka u r new. U know nothing what happened n why I was blocked. Who was starsipo. N as soon as u join u get after me. Forces me to wonder if u r starsipo in new avatar.
675. Dhiraj ADI |   Link |  Bookmark | April 7, 2016 11:29:29 PM
Thyrocare IPO 480 Crores Opening 26.04.16- Closing 29.04.16
674. Arjun Patel |   Link |  Bookmark | April 7, 2016 11:26:17 PM
Equitas Holdings Ltd. IPO
Final Figures:
QIB: 15.05x
HNI: 57.47x
Retail: 1.41x
Total: 17.29x
No. of Apps: ~ 587793
Retail as per Apps : 1.15x
Team Edelweiss
673. Dhiraj ADI |   Link |  Bookmark | April 7, 2016 11:25:41 PM
IPO Subscription:-

EQUITAS HOLDINGS LIMITED

Day 3 Subscription @ 9:00 PM

QIB – 14.93 times
HNI – 57.29 times
RETAIL – 1.45 times

EMPLOYEE – 0.92 times

All Over – 17.14 times

Total Application – 5,88,548

Retail Subs on the basis of applications – 1.15time
672. Ipo tracker |   Link |  Bookmark | April 7, 2016 11:24:40 PM (500+ Posts, 200+ Likes)
Eagle eye you were right in predicting retail oversubscription of 1.4 times +-0.5is ok, retail subscription figure matters most to majority of this forum.
If rs109 bids & technical rejections of bids are deducted from total applications, then ratio can go bit higher.
671. Septa |   Link |  Bookmark | April 7, 2016 11:17:32 PM (4000+ Posts, 4600+ Likes)
Thyrocare Technologies: Testing new waters in medical diagnostics


Dr A Velumani, founder and CEO, Thyrocare

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93.5-metre long lab automation track runs inside the central laboratory of diagnostics and pathology firm, Thyrocare Technologies, which specialises in thyroid testing. Its founder, Dr A Velumani, 56, proudly displays the laboratory in Vashi, Navi Mumbai, which is capable of processing 50,000 samples and conducting 2 lakh tests per day.

The lab is emblematic of Velumani’s business approach: High volumes, low costs and a single-minded focus on preventive healthcare.


Founded in 1996, Thyrocare has seen steady growth over the years, owed in large part to its capital-light, franchise model. “The entire business had two parts: Procuring and processing. Procuring is difficult, processing isn’t,” says Velumani. “So I cut up the business and gave the procuring part to the franchisees.” This ensures that Thyrocare’s front-end is taken care of till the samples reach Mumbai by air cargo every day. They are then transported to the central laboratory in Vashi.

In FY2015, Thyrocare generated revenues of Rs 200 crore, a 17 percent increase over the previous fiscal. Up until FY2014, revenue growth had been higher and Velumani attributes the subsequent decline to high Ebitda (earnings before interest, taxes, depreciation and amortisation) margins. “Earlier, we had a 48 percent margin, but that was hurting our growth, so we’ve now lowered it to 42 percent this year by further cutting our prices,” he says.

In early 2011, Thyrocare’s business model and high gross margins attracted investment from New Delhi-based CX Partners, which picked up a 30 percent stake for Rs 188 crore, valuing the company at about $100 million (around Rs 600 crore).

The person behind it
Born in Coimbatore, Tamil Nadu, Velumani spent 15 years as a scientist, and left his job at the Bhabha Atomic Research Centre in Mumbai becahe “wanted to do something different”. The immediate reason for starting Thyrocare was fairly straightforward: He had a PhD in thyroid biochemistry.

Using money from his provident fund, Velumani started his first lab in Byculla, Mumbai, in 1996. He soon began expanding to other cities. “The growth was pulled by demand, not pushed,” he says. Since the business started generating cash from the first day, Velumani claims he did not have to borrow money ever. He continues to own a majority stake in the company.

Why it is a gem
Thyrocare is one of the larger players in the burgeoning Indian medical diagnostics market. Consulting firm PricewaterhouseCoopers (PwC) estimates this market, including radiology and lab diagnostics, to be worth $3.5 billion (Rs 20,000 crore).

Thyrocare has managed to keep its costs low by leveraging high volumes. It processes an average of 40,000 samples per day, the highest in the sector, claims Velumani.

Despite the presence of major players like Metropolis Healthcare, SRL Diagnostics and Dr Lal PathLabs, medical diagnostics in India is largely unorganised. “When we invested in Thyrocare, demand was being driven by the shift from the unorganised to the organised sector,” says Tarun Khanna, a partner at CX Partners. The gap exists even today. PwC estimates the size of the organised sector to be only about 15 to 20 percent of the total market.

Thyrocare’s scalable model has enabled it to double the number of its franchisees from 600 to over 1,200 in just four years. However, its founder has, of late, softened his hitherto rigid philosophy of having a centralised laboratory for the entire country. “Technology is reaching every nook and corner of the country,” says Velumani. “So if we don’t spread ourselves out, our growth may suffer.” He now plans to have a laboratory in every Indian city with an airport. He has already opened smaller labs in Coimbatore, Bengaluru, Hyderabad and Delhi.

Thyrocare’s investors are now planning an exit. Both Velumani and Khanna have confirmed that an IPO may be in the offing. The investors expect the company to be valued at Rs 1,800-2,000 crore, says Velumani.

Why it was hidden
Thyrocare is not so much a hidden gem as it is a gem that is not properly displayed, quips its promoter. Velumani attributes its lack of recognition to his own hesitation to be in the limelight. He says despite the recent attention that the sector has got, many people do not completely understand the business.

Although Thyrocare remained largely unknown in its early years, an investment by Brand Capital, owned by Bennett, Coleman and Company Limited, in 2006 changed that. “I took an exposure risk of Rs 25 crore and splurged a large part of it on full page ads in their newspapers,” says Velumani. Brand Capital has exited since.

Risks and challenges
A franchise-based model has its own limitations. Initially, Velumani gave a franchise to anyone who applied, but he realised that everyone is not equipped to be an entrepreneur. “We now reject about 25 percent of the people who apply,” he says.

There is no denying the fact that medical diagnostics is an increasingly crowded space. Low-entry barriers mean there is a rapidly increasing number of players.

Challenges pertaining to retail businesses replacing legacy businesses will also apply to Thyrocare, believes Velumani. “Of course, disruption can come any time,” he admits, adding quickly, “I intend to disrupt too, so I needn’t worry.”

This article appeared in the Forbes India magazine issue of 18 September, 2015
671.1. Gravitas |   Link |  Bookmark | April 8, 2016 2:54:20 PM (200+ Posts)
Nice post.