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710. Pankaj maheshwari |   Link |  Bookmark | April 8, 2016 2:18:26 PM
Thanx ashok bhai
709. GRAVITA PAROL |   Link |  Bookmark | April 8, 2016 1:56:20 PM
first gmp start from Mumbai,then ahmedabad,then other places.

almost gmp trade has been eating mumbbaaiii.
Gujarat''s trades are cutting to mumbbaaiii.
708. INNOCENT |   Link |  Bookmark | April 8, 2016 1:22:49 PM
hello friends,

someone posted in this forum that 5,68,000 retail applied, i wonder from which site they could gather such accurate information.. kindly enlighten us so that other could also benefit........thanks
707. BULLS OF INDIA |   Link |  Bookmark | April 8, 2016 1:10:21 PM (200+ Posts)
is there any chances for Retail Applicant (for this Equitas IPO) to get allotment of more than 1 (135 Nos. of Shares) lot.
707.3. NeoTrade |   Link |  Bookmark | April 8, 2016 11:05:08 PM
IPO Mentor IPO Mentor (700+ Posts, 300+ Likes)
No chance...
707.4. SHASHANK K S |   Link |  Bookmark | April 8, 2016 11:14:31 PM
It''s karvy... Kuch bhi ho sakta hain... I have not got a single IPO allotment with karvy till today ?
706. Pankaj maheshwari |   Link |  Bookmark | April 8, 2016 1:09:37 PM
Gmp of equitas in indore rs 22 /-
705. Gravitas |   Link |  Bookmark | April 8, 2016 1:03:11 PM (200+ Posts)
Some comments on Suzlon:- Poor capital allocation has led to its fall from grace. I hope Mr Tulsi has learned the lesson the hard way now. I do not see any further dilution of equity (conversion of bonds) or issues on debt repayment/refinancing given the presence of a deep-pocketed co-promoter (Sanghvi). Operationally too I do not see any major issue given renewed focus on domestic demand for renewable energy (esp Solar).

Situation has changed a lot since 5 years..There is huge resurgence in Renewable Energy not only in India but across the board. Debt, although still undesirably high, has nevertheless halved from its peak level...

So, risks are there but I see good upside...

Disclaimer: I''ve a big chunk at acquisition cost of 13/- & have every intention to hold it for long term. Will buy more on dips below 13/-.
705.2. PavanM |   Link |  Bookmark | April 8, 2016 3:54:34 PM
IPO Mentor IPO Mentor (500+ Posts, 400+ Likes)
Hi Gravitas and RKS, holding suzlon shares bought at around 20 levels. but no hopes as government is focusing (if any) on Solar power more which is abundant in our country and not on wind power. What do you say?
705.3. Gravitas |   Link |  Bookmark | April 9, 2016 3:21:03 AM (200+ Posts)
There are 3 things:
(1) I''m expecting Suzlon itself to become a prominent player in Solar. We are currently at 5.5GW capacity & target is 100GW in 5 yrs from now. So, the pie is very big & Suzlon should have a reasonable slice off it.
(2) Wind capacity at present is 25GW (I don''t remember the exact figure) & target is 75GW. Suzlon & Gamesa are the dominant players. So, some upside in Wind too is there.
(3) Integrated Wind+Solar is another theme which should pick up IMO. Although here scope is a bit limited but Suzlon reigns supreme in this kind of work. Suzlon is already playing out this theme in some projects.

So, overall I''m not worried about demand for Wind+Solar, but whether Suzlon''s leveraged balance sheet would allow it to aggressively grab these opportunities or not. After much thought, I decided to jump in the waters. A share price of 26/- would fetch 100% return - so there is some in-built margin of safety in terms of expected returns for me. Your higher entry price strips away some of the MoS.

After a hiatus of many years, they are now expected to post a black bottom line in FY16. Although this would be mainly becaof one-off gains from sale of a subsidiary but still... Share price may increase when the full year results are out.

The point is that it''s worth waiting for a couple of weeks more even if u want to finally sell off. Let''s see whether Govt''s thrust on Renewable Energy finally firms up or slumps.

You can also try averaging down if ur budget allows.
704. Pankaj maheshwari |   Link |  Bookmark | April 8, 2016 1:02:02 PM
Hi Guys, I registered on this site today itself. I am from indore,MP. I am having same interest as all of u - in primary market.
704.1. ASHOK MEHTA |   Link |  Bookmark | April 8, 2016 1:53:39 PM
Wel Come, Pankaj.
I am from Ahmedabad.
703. GRAVITA PAROL |   Link |  Bookmark | April 8, 2016 12:37:14 PM
as on history,

4000-4500 application have been cancelled in every ipo due to some reason(sign differ,balance,form variation...etc)

quick heal 4275 app. cancel
infibeam 4375 app.cancel
precam 3975 app.cancel
hcg I have no data.
703.7. Rajeev Kumar Singh aka RKS |   Link |  Bookmark | April 8, 2016 3:24:03 PM
Go to nse website. Click on IPO/new issue/OFS. Click on application status. Register urself. Put application no. Thats it.
703.8. ranjan patel |   Link |  Bookmark | April 9, 2016 4:29:52 PM
rks bro n gravitas sir I have checked both nse n bse site still I could not find it what to do both of u please reply...
702. mehul mehta |   Link |  Bookmark | April 8, 2016 11:54:08 AM
friends i would apply for l and t infotech and avoid thyrocare however all depends after analysing results
702.1. ASHOK MEHTA |   Link |  Bookmark | April 8, 2016 1:56:14 PM
Dear Mehul,
Do you feel now that you should have applied ?
701. Uchit Patel |   Link |  Bookmark | April 8, 2016 11:40:49 AM (500+ Posts, 1500+ Likes)
Yesterday night I met some brokers from Ahmedabad who are dealing in grey market. I had a discussion about listing price of EHL.

Broker''s calculation looks like:

Allotment in retail 8:10 (in worst scenario).
Brokers paid average Rs. 1650 per application (GMP). When GMP started it was Rs. 700 and reached high to Rs. 2100. GMP ranges from Rs. 700 to Rs. 2100.
Brokers paid Rs. 16500 for 10 applications. Now allotment should come in 8 applications out of 10. Minimum lot is 135 shares. 135*8 = 1080 shares of allotment to brokers.
Brokers told me normally they need double in grey market. So, Rs. 33000 needed.
33000/1080 = 32 (Approximate).
Brokers are predicting price should reach to Rs.140 (listing or first one hour after listing).

Please note, I am not an expert on listing price prediction. This is just a calculation from brokers in Ahmedabad. I think Pinkyji can predict listing price better than everyone in this forum.
701.4. ASHOK MEHTA |   Link |  Bookmark | April 8, 2016 1:57:59 PM
Dear Uchit,
Great !
701.5. Shivajee |   Link |  Bookmark | April 8, 2016 6:07:55 PM (700+ Posts, 100+ Likes)
Yes Pinky and Eagle are Two eyes for the IPO.

Pinky good in listing price and later on price. Eagle eye good for GMP and analysts. I want to be her neighbor or class mate and discuss with EE.

700. Viraj |   Link |  Bookmark | April 8, 2016 11:36:05 AM
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Hello,all guys
Happy new year cheitra savant 2073..
699. J J |   Link |  Bookmark | April 8, 2016 11:34:05 AM
Dear Arjun sir
Piease dont leave
we all need you
698. V |   Link |  Bookmark | April 8, 2016 11:23:50 AM
I applied through BSE online for this IPO twice - by mistake.
Is there any way I can cancel one appl.
I tried to revise the appl again through BSE online but I dont thik it allows to cancel.
I have already writeen to registrar to cancel one appl.
What are the possible outcome of this excersise?
Is ther any other way to handle this situation?
My DMAT with RELIANCE and Bank account with ICICI.
Thanks.
VK
698.1. Manipo |   Link |  Bookmark | April 8, 2016 12:25:52 PM (200+ Posts)
Can you share the steps how did you applied through BSE online?
Also is amount blocked in your bank account?
698.2. V |   Link |  Bookmark | April 10, 2016 12:59:36 PM
My misunderstanding of the process. BSE site Will create prefilled form with the info you provide. We have to print it and follow manual process. In my case the zip file generated was not proper so I could not see it and assumed that it will be a kind of confirmation of the application.
VK
697. Vishal Maisheri |   Link |  Bookmark | April 8, 2016 11:21:22 AM
I am From rajkot

Pls give detail gmp booking broker name ???

696. shivam chouksey |   Link |  Bookmark | April 8, 2016 11:14:58 AM
Septa & eagaleye sir i want creat a whats app grop May you provide your no. Please
696.1. Eagleye |   Link |  Bookmark | April 8, 2016 1:31:07 PM
IPO Guru IPO Guru (6600+ Posts, 21900+ Likes)
I shall join your whats app group only if you can give me reasons why it would be more beneficial than this forum
695. bullishtiger |   Link |  Bookmark | April 8, 2016 11:07:45 AM
@ septa RKS and others
Suzlon not going up have 10k shares at around 20, what to do sell or hold ?
Any chances of going up in future
695.6. Rajeev Kumar Singh aka RKS |   Link |  Bookmark | April 8, 2016 1:48:34 PM
That is true for kiri industries also. Where is it now? Ups n downs keep on happening. But things improve too. N presently things look bright for suzlon.
695.7. Rajeev Kumar Singh aka RKS |   Link |  Bookmark | April 8, 2016 1:51:15 PM
Bullishtiger as u said u will get ur money back by 16 as mostly one lot would be given to everyone in EHL. So ur problem would be solved. That''s why the first thing I asked is if u require the money.
694. bangalore king |   Link |  Bookmark | April 8, 2016 11:06:18 AM (400 Posts)
The success of the Equitas IPO throws up some interesting learnings:

1) Who needs FIIs?

Under the banking licensee requirements, the company had to bring down foreign shareholding to under 49%. This regulatory requirement restricted foreign institutional investors (FIIs) from participating in the IPO.

Foreign shareholding in Equitas stood at 92.64% before the IPO.

Never before an IPO deal of Rs.2,176 crore had been sold only to domestic investors and naturally bankers to the issuance were jittery.

However, at the close of the IPO on Thursday, the institutional investors’ category was subscribed nearly 15 times, while retail and high net-worth individuals categories were subscribed 1.4 times and 57.3 times, respectively, according to data from stock exchanges. Clearly, there was no shortage of demand for the Equitas share sale.

Since last year, domestic institutional investors (DIIs), especially mutual funds that are flush with cash, have stepped up their participation in IPOs.

In December, Mint had reported that of the 21 IPOs that have hit the capital markets this year, DIIs bought more than half the anchor book in at least 12 public issues. The anchor book is that portion of the IPO that bankers can allot to institutional investors on a discretionary basis.

No one missed the FIIs.

2) Domestic investors don’t shy away from untested models

One of the concerns about the Equitas offer was that while the company showed exceptional performance as a microfinance institution, it was to soon become a bank.

Unlike a non-banking finance company that it is, it can no longer depend on financing such as term loans from banks and will need to take deposits from customers (apart from other forms of financing), a completely new way of doing business for the company.

The transition is expected to hurt the company’s profitability in the near to medium term.

However, this change in the way of doing business did not deter domestic investors. The fact that the company had undergone the rigorous scrutiny of the Reserve Bank of India to win the licence and the case study of Bandhan’s transformation from a microfinance institution to a universal bank gave investors the confidence to invest in Equitas.

3) Who’s the boss?

One question that is always on the minds of investors, especially domestic ones, looking at IPOs is: How much skin in the game does the promoter have?

Most listed companies in India have promoter holdings of at least around 50%.

But P.N. Vasudevan, who founded Equitas, has just around 3% stake in the company. In fact, he is not even recognized as the promoter of the company.

“Our company is a professionally managed company and does not have an identifiable promoter...,” reads a line displayed prominently on the front page of the company’s prospectus.

The impressive track record of the management and the high levels of corporate governance, thanks to a large of international investors in the company, must have helped assuage investor concerns about there being no promoter in the company.

Domestic investors seem to be warming up to the idea of professional, management-driven corporations. This change in perception is bound to help several companies, especially new-age tech companies that are majority owned by private equity and venture capital funds, when they turn up for listings.

4) Valuation is king

The bargaining power of DIIs, in the absence of FIIs, helped bring the valuation substantially lower than what the company was able to garner in past private funding rounds.

At the upper band of the offer price, Rs.110, the issue was priced at a diluted price to book value of 1.8 times.

Brokerages gave their thumbs up to the valuation of the offer.

“We believe the issue is attractively priced looking at the growth options the company offers in the long run,” said Angel Broking in its research note.

“The IPO looks attractive and the company’s growth potential looks promising at this stage. The IPO is priced at an approx. 50% discount to SKS Microfinance,” said Religare Capital Markets Ltd in its report.
693. rahulabhishek |   Link |  Bookmark | April 8, 2016 10:49:53 AM
todays rate. ... eagleye sir....
693.1. Eagleye |   Link |  Bookmark | April 8, 2016 11:27:47 AM
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20/-
693.2. rahulabhishek |   Link |  Bookmark | April 8, 2016 2:24:03 PM
thank u very much,..... sir u r great
692. IPO MK RAJKOT |   Link |  Bookmark | April 8, 2016 10:44:21 AM
Thyrocare Technologies Ltd.

Issue Opens:- 26th April
Issue Size 480 Cr.
Expected Price 445-465

L&T Infotect Ipo
Issue opens 26th April
Issue Size 2000Cr.
Expected Price 1100
691. Eagleye |   Link |  Bookmark | April 8, 2016 10:43:38 AM
IPO Guru IPO Guru (6600+ Posts, 21900+ Likes)
Equitas:

April 13, 2016 – Finalisation of Basis of Allotment
April 18, 2016 – Unblocking of funds from ASBA Account
April 20, 2016 – Credit of Equity Shares to demat accounts
April 21, 2016 – Commencement of Trading on BSE/NSE