73. IPOFreak| Link| Bookmark|
February 12, 2024 12:07:20 AM
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Hi, Can you suggest which banks allow applying IPOs from the flex (or sweep) FDs without breaking till allotment? I have used Kotak, ICICI and AU Bank. Details as under- Kotak - ActivMoney (FD's Auto Created) ICICI - MoneyMultiplier (FD's can be manually created online) AU Bank - FlexFD (FDs need to be created by visiting branch or video call)
Does Bank of Baroda, HDFC, and IDFC Bank have such facility? TIA
As per GMP updates, from not so impressive debut of 10% few days back, current GMP is close to zero. Will be interesting to see how this counter will fare.
70. Ankur Goel| Link| Bookmark|
February 11, 2024 10:46:50 PM
IPO Guru (1300+ Posts, 600+ Likes)
Hyatt Backed Juniper Hotels To Come With It's 1800 cr IPO Soon
An Interesting One
Full Fresh Capital of 1800 cr will turnaround the company
Expected In This Month Itself
69. rohiitian| Link| Bookmark|
February 11, 2024 9:51:55 PM
IPO Guru (1200+ Posts, 800+ Likes)
First time I'm seeing such a coordinated effort by brand new accounts to promote an IPO - it's quite irritating since it prevents genuine participants from engaging in discourse that could help us decide to invest
Earlier I thought the market cap was ~3000 Cr (this number is still reflecting here on CG), but it seems to be ~5500 Cr. At the earlier number this looked very interesting to me, but at the actual MCap, the case isn't so compelling
1.4-1.5x revenue for a distribution biz is very expensive, but the one question is that good Healthcare cos like Apollo, Max, Global Health etc. trade at hefty premiums in general (40-50x EBITDA), and Entero is coming at a similar valuation with sharper growth. Can a distribution biz growing faster than a consumer biz, trade at similar multiples?
I guess we'll find out, but all these fake posts are really putting me off from this one
Fully endorse your views. With kind of promotion this counter is receiving, doubts have multiplied. Thankfully, CG member community is mature enough and will not fall prey to this dirty game.
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69.3. Anuwak| Link| Bookmark|
February 12, 2024 7:13:41 PM
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@Admin @ Chittorgarh.com New account should not be able to comment for first 2 weeks at least in order to control fake promotion and any kind of nuisance.
@Anuwak It is nice suggestion but not too practical as it will devoid the genuine newbies from participating. Nahin? Observed that whatever new IDs were created towards promotion here were promptly removed by Admin yesterday and even today.
68. UjwalG| Link| Bookmark|
February 11, 2024 1:29:24 PM
IPO Guru (1300+ Posts, 600+ Likes)
@Admin @ Chittorgarh.com Some new members here are suspicious. Quoting numbers exact to second decimal point. These are new members. Mostly for promotion. Pls review once. Thanks
Thanks @UjwalG for alerting us. Nowadays very difficult to find unbiased platform for IPO review. Luckily we still have some reliable members in this forum for unbiased view
Seems so fishy. They are singing praises for the company. OFS is not bad in any sense. But for a 6 year old company with losses, seems someone is cashing out big time. If the issue is entirely fresh that would have been more convincing. Investors be careful. If good number of QIB subscribe then we may try our luck, otherwise I'm avoiding.
Most of these new comments I see added are whatever is available basis DRHP. Don’t see any suspicion in this. I think they have also added good point of view for discussion. I feel start-up valuations should be looked at differently from historical companies (which should be on projected growth). Company is profitable already, and business module looks strong. I think those who are looking at marginal listing gains with long term holding capacity should subscribe.
Looks like many new accounts are created to defend the views of our beloved senior members. Very much suspicious. Such new members can react here as well. Let's dedicate a thread for them. : )
Yes , some repetitive messages are coming which indicate promotion by some aspirants. They are providing with useless/nonsignificant data. It is nothing doing being engaged in a debutant loss maker's statics . As I have seen post ipo : Eps 4.7 , p/e 268 (based on 6m available) , P/B 8.7 , mcap to revenue 1.57 and it's very high for a stranger even it may claim as a market leader where we don't have any transparent view of the market referred to .
It remains mentioned that somebody may have high hope comparing it with Medplus( which has visible business ) Price 627 ,eps 0.45 , p/e 1394 , p/ b 6.5 and mcap to revenue about 1.64 .
If anybody thinks "Khela Hobe " ,it is a different issue.
Good discussion going on here. Ideally we should look at the growth potential whish is there. Good amount of money raised is going to be used for acquisitions so expect significant pickup in revenue immediately.
Currently three organized players in industry having ~7-8% market share total which is expected to go upto ~25-30% incoming 4-5 years so expect an even higher cagr of growth going forward driven by both organic and acquisitions. Which should give operating leverage leading to enhanced profitability in a business where scale is the biggest factor.
No doubt Pat losses in last 3 years have been concerning, operating level they have been profitable from year 2 iyeself being in hypergrowth model which is commendable. Seeing profits in H1 24 and improving margin profiles has been giving some positives to bet on this.
But yes need a different lens to understand and look at these fast growing business other than only current P/E which can be shortshited.
@Admin @ Chittorgarh.com if you could look for the comments of these people who are defending the company with accurate facts and praises. i have seen 6-7 of these accounts created recently. It seems they just manipulating us to float this ipo. Kindly remove them.
Experts please suggest about Flair writing??.....number are bad....should we book loss ?
56. whiteFox| Link| Bookmark|
February 11, 2024 10:54:48 AM
IPO Mentor (600+ Posts, 200+ Likes)
It's difficult to compare this iPod with Gland Pharma due to following . 1. Gland is giant company as compared to entero. 2. Gland was continuously profit making company.
3.Gland is pharma company as entero is pharma distributor.
It's difficult to apply full force here. Can apply retail and test your luck...
For a gambler: All avoids are not avoidable . For a greedy man : All avoidables are not avoids. For a common : Dwindling away in yes/no . For a reasonable man : jis talaw ko pani nahi pina usko najdik bhi nahi jana . Kyse koi pani pe li toh !
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54. IpoZINDAHAI| Link| Bookmark|
February 10, 2024 1:31:33 PM
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Did some study on the Company
In 6 years growing from 0 to close to 4000 crore (annualized FY24) is impressive..
30%+ CAGR YOY in a sector which is filled only with regional players.. it's highly regional sector.. So again this is good for the Company..
Loan repayment of 142-143 crores may generate another 12-15 crores profit based on interest saved.. assuming max profit after interest saving.. Annualized profit may range between 30-40 crores.
There are no listed peers as such which can be directly Compared with this Company. Even Medplus is not a comparable as such given Medplus is a retail chain while Entero is B2B (Distributors to Pharmacies, Hospitals, clinics, etc.)
But extremely high valuation even then.. They are like new edge startups trying to define this market..
Personally, I feel it looks good for Long term when they will be able to optimize their Warehouse, distribution network in future resulting in better Profitilabity. However, it is one thing to grow and another is to sustain it..
As for listing gains, it looks dicey according to me.. 😶😶
@IpoZINDAHAI This ipo is supposed to be a very interested.. To risk taker it can reward handsomely.. These are my personal views only.. I will track it's subscription no's on last day.. I am not avoiding it totally.. right now ! Openion of other experts is welcome here!!
54.2. IpoZINDAHAI| Link| Bookmark|
February 10, 2024 5:54:52 PM
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I am confident about the Company in long run. Healthcare as a sector is growing in double digits YOY. And the Company has been able to do well in terms of growth in last 6 years.
But listing gain wise, I am still skeptical.. let's see how the subscription pens out. Although as you rightly pointed out.. to say avoid outrightly would be foolish..
# No one can predict..Listing price of this share!! # around 72℅ shares will remains with Anchor & qib # around 28℅ shares will remains with Hni & Retail # GMP is almost zero at present..(as par reported by some members in this forum).. # Asking price is undoubtedly higher.. # Negative listing possibility is also higher here.. # But post listing.. After Cornering of Retailers shares at lower price.. Big players can play a Big game.. # So real game will start post listing,in my view #This are my personal views about this ipo.. I may be totally wrong.. So therefore... No recommendations.. No claim ... 🙏
54.5. CoolAsh| Link| Bookmark|
February 11, 2024 2:54:19 AM
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What a dilemma. After wiping out loans, EPS on current Ops would be about 15. PE at 80 plus. Looks expensive. Who knows?
54.6. IpoZINDAHAI| Link| Bookmark|
February 11, 2024 5:20:40 PM
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These new accounts seem to be doing more damage for the Company than helping..
Some of us who have been studying the Company would rather stay away because of these cheap promotions..
Clearly, someone is trying to generate buzz about this IPO.. What a shame.. 😓
54.7. MuStrFc| Link| Bookmark|
February 11, 2024 6:38:45 PM
IPO Guru (3000+ Posts, 2400+ Likes)
@CoolAsh After a while someone comes with an issue price above Rs 1000. Sector is enticing, and likewise the companies that operate in it can do well. Entero is expensive and will remain so, as currently sentiments overpower fundamentals. Reminds of Mamaearth, Nykaa, Paytm
54.8. IpoZINDAHAI| Link| Bookmark|
February 13, 2024 10:12:11 AM
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May take some risks in retail around 3 PM.
Definitely no BHNI as it may entail 4-5 Lakh worth shares (looking at current subscription)
Company is surely good for Long term especially in the sector they are in..
Think... Pharma distribution is so big of a market in India yet no listed player ever in this space.. why?
Because it's highly fragmented..
So surely this Company will be in my radar. As of now, will wait till 3 PM. Personally, I think we will see QIB subscriptions.