As i had earlier told on friday. ELIN has made the bottom and strong funds like SBI MF and Kotak MF are aggresively accumlating it. So dont sell it and in case u have funds try to buy more for big upmove in this fundamentally strong company
@hrishikesh your rule is correct only if u took just a trading bet. In investing you always increase your position if company is good and price fall is not justified. It is upto u now to decide whether ur position was trading bet or investment. If it was trading bet that u should put a sl or small target and get out
ELIN seems to have made the bottom. Fundamentally the stock is good and with SBI MF which is largest MF is continuing to accumulate the share the company has potential to go upto 400 levels in 1 year time frame.
Do know whats wrong with this stock? Fundamentally, the company looks fine. Experts, does it make sense to average the allotments? How do we see the forthcoming result for the company? Disclosure: Holding 1 HNI and 3 Retail lots.
268.1. Nilaykumar| Link| Bookmark|
January 13, 2023 5:14:29 PM
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Nothing negetive it's fundamentally good and pf stock but shorter and weak share holders exiting in loss causing it free fall like anything. TTM PE is currently less than 28.
Also Many others have misinformation about shareholding that it's 33% but it's in real 57% I mentioned here: https://www.chittorgarh.com/ipo/ipo_discussions.asp?a=1346&c=570504&ap=0
Promoters claimed in an interview that they will grow 25% cagr in coming 2 years and also fetch little higher margin than current margins of ~8%. But we can't trust 100% on promotor claim , they couldn't achieve always what they say but we can estimate their potential.
SBI Mutual Fund under | December 30, 2022/| Acquired SBI Mutual Fund its various schemes Regulation 29(1) of | 28,02,772 Equity| under its various the SEBI (SAST), | Shares (5.6440%) | paid up share capital on December 29, 2022
It's called paid support... Supporting a share price at a particular price point so as it seems that more buying is coming at that price point. This lures traders into thinking that price will bounce up from there hence transferring downside risk to new buyers and new buyers are less likely to sell shares until there's a severe fall. This infact boosts up delivery volume creating artificial demand. Previous examples, kfintech, dcx, syrma, Harsha, dreamfolks etc.
Other reason could be , just a trade attempt by small securities firms,
265.2. PeterEngland| Link| Bookmark|
December 31, 2022 7:09:27 PM
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Also please note, three QIBs sold their IPO share, looks like big pain ahead.
Qib wale quitting more faster than retail investors 😂 😂 😂 in these days they just want listing gain after that leaving that company instead of support.
264.2. UjwalG| Link| Bookmark|
December 31, 2022 8:30:09 AM
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~38 lk shares were there for qib quota. Fii selling from above msgs seems ~13lk shares on listing day itself !!. Quite a huge number. Interesting behavior, dont remember seeing something like this. Question to ponder is who buyed then? Some dii 🤔
As expected, the weak hands have exited yeasterday. As this ipo was not fit for fiis as market cap is just 1000 cr so their selling is on expected line. The shares have been absorbed by strong mutual funds like sbi mf and hence we will see good upward trajectory in few days
264.4. PeterEngland| Link| Bookmark|
December 31, 2022 7:04:44 PM
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@Abhijeet, are you calling above QIB's weak hands? 🤔 They probably exited to protect themselves from further downfall, please check their exit price, looks like their stoploss got hit(something like that, don't know exactly what parameters they use). And do you have any supporting data on bulk deals indicating "shares have been absorbed by strong mutual funds like sbi mf"?
@PeterEngland QIB's are not retail investors that they exited due to sl being hit .. Price fell due to their selling and not the oetherway that as price fell they exited. These funds are not the long only funds they usually play momentum game and apply in IPOs more say for relationship basis. A 1000 cr market cap company doesnt fit into their scheme of these so intention was pretty clear at the time of allotment that they will exit on listing day whatever postive or negative the price may be. Thats why none of these funds applied through anchor route as their is lockin if you apply through anchor route. While the serious funds who will like to stay inevsted in the company which are mostly mutual funds led by SBI came through anchor route
264.7. PeterEngland| Link| Bookmark|
January 2, 2023 9:30:51 AM
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@Abhijeet Kumar, thanks a lot for the explaination 🙏, definitely a great learning for me.
Because of these kind of funds who only apply in IPO's for relationship basis i have been continoulsy warning from subscribing in IPO's unless its very good deal. Its better to buy good quality company when they fall fater listing instead of buying junk companies during IPO's. Elin is one of good quality comapnies listed at decent valautions and hence i am recomedning to buy now instead of applying in junk ipos. Earlier i had recomended great quality company bector foods which had fallen to 250 after great listing last year. Now bector foods has recovered and trading at 420.
Even though discount listing is not unexpected and disappointing, I will hold my 3 Retail lots for at least about 6 months, expecting a recovery within that time frame.
Even though fellow members may have different opinion, I am very well aware of the fact that Market is always supreme and unpredictable , especially in the short term. What I want to convey is that the the tendency to flip the shares on the listing day irrespective of profit or loss will only help the Operators to corner the shares cheaply. Everyone has absolute authority to take his or her decision. Keep sharing your thoughts for the benefit of all.
Mainline IPOs are like bollywood movies getting flop after flop. However, SME IPO are south indian movie getting super dupur hit with handsome listing gain.
262.1. G profit| Link| Bookmark|
December 31, 2022 11:56:09 AM
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261.2. jay here| Link| Bookmark|
January 1, 2023 11:51:14 AM
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Averaging rarely rewards investors. Do not get into this trap.Averaging is good only when market falls by 5-10%. Elin will move either way from this price,Have strict SL. Keep Minting💸🙏
Nothing to panic in the company. Good delivery based buying by a big fund happened during last 30 mins of trade. So expect very good ahead in next few months
Thanks I asked this question for not to do short selling. My query related to manipulation being done at Preopen to set open price.
257.3. UjwalG| Link| Bookmark|
December 30, 2022 11:24:29 AM
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@aavi. Yes it is done in every ipo, fake buy/sell orders to manipulate listing price. If you had look closely today, just before 9:44 am sell volume reduced to half, thus we can say it was fake orders just to manipulate demand supply .Opening prices are always decided by demand and supply, more the supply less the opening price and vice versa.
257.4. Nilaykumar| Link| Bookmark|
December 30, 2022 2:56:38 PM
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@aavi you muat have shares in your demat to sell in pre open , short selling not possible in pre open session upto 10 am. later also short selling is not allowed on ipo listing but some broker allows it.
HOW THEY FOOL INVESTORS BY SAYING "VALUE STOCKS,HOLD FOR LONG TERM".......MOSTLY FOLKS CAME HERE FOR GMP TRAP....NOW MOSTLY EXITS AT 230...GOOD BUY AT 170-175 LEVELS
Third class listing Promotor smile 😊 Retail investors trapped 😂
255.1. PeterEngland| Link| Bookmark|
December 30, 2022 2:14:51 PM
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And today is good day to say goodbye the market for retail investors 😂 (last trading day of the year). Please don't forget to write the letters 😊
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December 30, 2022 11:00:21 AM
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Bought small qty. @ 235 add more in decline. We were standing in queue @ 247 in IPO but not want to buy at discount. I had done same in UNIPART and now in profit..
Listing as expected has not been good. But as company is decent. So no need to panic if you can hold on for long term. It will give atleast 20% upside in next 6 months