Electrosteel Integrated Ltd IPO Message Board (Page 13)

DEAR 324 SJ -- YOU TALK SO SO MUCH AND WRITE AS IF YOU ARE THE FINAL AUTHORITY IN STOCK MARKET AND CAN DECTATE STOCS. I DONOT KNOW YOUR AGE AND EXPERIENCE AND ABUSED BY YOU LONG BACK AND STOPPED VISITING THESE SITES. IF YOU ARE SURE AS YOU SAID IN 324, THIS IS AN OPEN OFFER TO YOU. PLEASE GIVE ME BANK GUARANTEE FOR THE ARRANGED AMOUNT PLUS PROFIT OF 50%, ONLY PROFIT NOT ANY LOSSES REPEAT NOT ANY LOSSES FOR THE RECOMMENDATIONS BY YOU. IF YOU ARE VERY SURE IN YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS, PLEASE DO ACCEPT MY OFFER BY BENEFITING ME A LOT. I AM A SMALL CHAP WITH ATTACHMENT TO PRIMARY/SECONDERY MARKET FOR THE LAST 30 YEARS, i.e, WHEN STOCK INVESTMENT IS LESS POPULAR AND I AM HOLDING SOME SCRIPS FOR THE LAST 30 YEARS ALSO.

I AM NOT WRITING THIS NOT TO DEMORALISE YOU LIKE OTHERS. SOME TIMES YOU ALSO GIVE GOOD ANALYSIS WHICH IS BENEFICIAL FOR THE READERS. BUT AS OF DATE THERE ARE SO MANY WHO ARE AGAINST YOUR OPINIONS/SUGGESTIONS. PLEASE GIVE YOUR IDEAS/ANALYSIS/ADVISES ONLY. DO NOT GIVE/WRITE LIKE IN 324. NO BODY IS MASTER IN STOCK MARKET. IT IS AN ART. NOT SCIENCE. ISME JO JEETA WAHI SIKENDER. BUT AS YOU SAID, LONG TERM INVESTERS, WITH FUNDAMENTALLY GOOD SCRIPS AND GOOD MANAGEMENTS TAHT TOO MNC INVESTERS GAIN A LOT. CAN YOU IMAGINE THE PRESENT VALUE OF Rs. 900/- INVESTED IN 1981 TODAY APART FROM LAVISH DIVEDENDS. PLEASE DO NOT ANNOYED WITH THIS. PLEASE THINK TWICE BEFOR WRITING. YOUR WRITINGS SHOULD BENEFIT MANY PEOPLE. OF COURSE, THERE ARE ALWAYS CRITICS AND GOOD CRETISM SHOULD ALWAYS BE WELCOMED BY GOOD PEOPLE. IF YOU ALL TAKE THIS IN A POSITIVE WAY, I WILL WRITE TO YOU AGAIN.

on 1 application of 99000/-
allotment share anybody who knows plz reply

any one knows about allotment date ?

i am applied for 600 share. what price expect in listing date

Allotment

321 Anonymus

You are true to your creed caste and colour on Chittorgarh

That is anonymus

As FORREST IN THE MOVIE FORREST GUMP SAYS:

"STUPID IS WHAT STUPID DOES"

WELL I DO NOT KNOW ABOUT DLF BUT INDAIBULLS REAL ESTATE WILL BE 750 BY 2013-14


I DONT KNOW ABOUT NHPC AND INDIABULLLS POWER BUT ADANI POWER WILL BE 500 BY 2014

I DON KNOW ABOUT UNITED BANK

BUT CENTRAL BANK WILL BE RS. 1000 BY 2015-16


IT STOCKS ARE FULLY PRICED CURRENT EARNINGS

YES AFTER PETROL WAS DEREGULATED

THEY WENT UP FROM 290 TO 400 AND THEN YOU BOUGHT AT 400

BUT IF YOU HAD BOUGHT AT 290 YOU WOULD BE SITTING ON 100% RETURN IN 3 MONTHS

AND 30% CAGR IN 3 YEARS.

HPCL WILL BE 2000 RUPEES BY 2015 AFTER DEREGULATION. BCOZ THEIR SALE ARE 1,00,000 CRORE SALES AND HAS MARKET CAP OF 17000 CRORES


SO IF JUST GIVING IT A CONSERVATIVE MARKET CAP OF 1 TIMES SALES IT IS 4X OPPURTUNITY NEXT 5 YEARS

THAT IS 80% CAGR


SO LONG TERM GUY ALWAYS WINS


SO WILL ELECTROSTEEL SHAREHOLDERS


AS I SAID BEFORE IN FOREST GUMPS WORDS:


"STUPID IS WHAT STUPID DOES...! "

SO DONT TEACH ME THE ART OF INVESTING


DUE RESPECT TO TO YOU

MR. ANONYMUS


REGARDS

SETU

I have already requested the chittorgarh staff a few days back to do away with this Anonymous concept for the benefit of all.

SJ,
I fully agree with you. This "ANONYMOUS" concept has got rid of one headache and landed us in another!

SJ i dont think you have understood what I was saying. I am not against you but think calmly what i am trying to say.

What I am saying when other stocks have run up so much why should i stay in long term stock.

stock like NHPC,DLF,INDIABULLS POWER might become 10 times after 5 years but why should i invest in them when i know investing in banks
united bank,central bank or pick any bank,pich large cap IT,PICK financial stocks like recltd,power finance they are giving double triple returns so quickly so why should anyone buy those dumb stocks.

After 10 years may be nhpc,dlf will be 10 times their current value and central bank might be less but fact is better for me to invest in stocks which give quicker returns.
If you are talking about HPCL there was no use sitting on those stocks for 3 years. instead one can buy hen petrol price were deregulated and it started uptrend.

THIS IS MY FIRST FEEDBACK TO CHITTORGARH

ON THE MOVEMENT I JUST STARTED IN POST NO 319 OF ELCTROSTEEL BOARD

CALLED

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"OPERATION BAYGON SPRAY "
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To remove Coa$%^&roach o this Site called Anonymus

it is as follows

PLZ PEOPLE ALSO COMPLAIN LIKE ME

EVEYDAY ONE FEEDBACK

AMKE THIS A HABIT

TILL ANONYMUS POLICY IS NOT DROPPED BY CHITTORGATRH

PLZ READ THIS BELOW FEEDBACK I JUST SEND TO CHITTORGARH STAFFF THRU CONTACT US

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ear Chittorgarh

Its good that after your "Anonymus Policy" as suggested by some board members before so that no body comes with fake identities or be able to duplicate others Unique Identity.

But that has now lead to filth only in your blogs and not achieved desired reults

Some ANonymus posts are ABUSIVE TO VERY SERIOUS EXTENT EVEN DOWNGRADING WOMEN HERE.

So although ANonymus enabled your popularity and traffic to great heights

But that is temporary


Many boarders do not post now that often and hence your number of clicks will reduce.

In fact in future as more people more run away after being abused and attacked and esp. women which will run away after seeing abusive posts


Makes you loose frequent boarders who give more no of hits to your site everyday and a whole crop of new people and esp. women and elderly people who will run away seeing filthy posts by anonymus people

I will just give you a recent example that is just an hour old

About an Abusive Anonymus post directed me. This happens to others as well you can see last three day posts you will find many.


PLease note that by just giving Report SPAM option does not solve purpose.

You are providing temporary relief from the "Anonymus" named Filth but not killing the disease permanently.

In fact you will get more hits if you just allow people to post only through their Unique IDs.

You are on a stage that your Website is a Big HIT Now.

That is not because of Anonymus Policy but people see geniune member post quality and analysis and come to hyour website for that only.

SO THE POINT IS NEITHER IT MAKES BUSINESS SENSE AND IT ALSO DEMAINING YOUR SITE TO AN ABUSING PLACE

YOUR SPONSORS WHO GIVE YOU BANNER ADS WILL STOP GIVING IT

IF YOU DO NOT BAN ANONYMUS PEOPLE

ALSO HAVE A FILTER FOR HINDI SLANGS AS WELL LIKE YOU HAVE FOR ENGLISH SLANG LANGUAGE.

THE ABUSIVE POST I MENTIONED EARLIER THE RECENT ONE ON ME IS AS FOLLOWS:

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314. Anonymous Oct 01, 2010 8:52:19 PM IST
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REGARDS

SETU


PLZ GIVE SUPPORT TO MY OPERATION BAYGON SPRAY

316. Anonymous

Good post. I hope people learn something instead of showing thier upbringing. I have had fundamental based arguments with Sj but I never stooped to abuse him nor did he. Give respect and get respect. Today someone abused me on Tirupati blog and I never visited that blog. I'm not here to listen abuses at cost of paying my internet bills and making people gain some knowledge and Sj/GIF/Sree/Ravi too.

Chittorgarh staff please make idendity mandatory and registration easy so people don't hide behind anonymous. These anonymous group are killing this site.

316 ANonymus

Thanks . I wished we had anonymus like you more on this blog

As of know touchwood I have not given any flop advice

Plz search all my posts on all blogs

I have also maintained i may flop in future so do your own research and do not blindly take my advice

I am not bragging or boasting my performance

but just to clear my stance

Thanks For your valuabl words not for me but for other boardes

Regards

this is for new and small investors who have limited knowledge of the stock market.....listings have begun and it has been a sorry state of affairs till now....but to be frank these IPOs were second grade....and their performance is as expected. Now what should you do
1. if you are confident about the companys future..hold for long term.
2. if you are not confident and you cannot hold the share bcos of fund requirements then book your losses...and be happy that you have learnt your first lesson in share market...infact you would be better prepared for the future IPOs.. if you can hold bcos you do not require the money then follow the stocks performance and sell/hold after assessing the results/analysis by experts etc.
3. there are a lot of people who are blaming SJ for the flops...arre bhai is SJ some God that he can predict the result of listing...and who in the first place told you that you shouldnt do your own analysis...be a man (or a lady) and take responsibility for your own actions.
4. pls stop abusive language...remember the abuser suffers as much negative energy as the person towards whom the abuse is directed.
5. lastly the only way to deal with abusers is IGNORE them..i mean if they abuse you dont bother to write back even if you feel like doing it..that way you will not give the abuser the satisfaction of hurting you and secondly you too wont dirty your self by writing abusive language...try karke dekho..it works
6. and SJ dont reply to any negative language...it will serve you better...reply to only genuine concerns.

ALL IZ WELL

DEAR BOARDERS

I AM BEING AGAIN ABUSED

I AM IGNORING IT

YOU ALL KNOW THAT I GAVE SCENARIOS FOR INDO SOLAR WHICH I SAID AVOID FROM STARTING


YESTERDAY I TOLD TO A BOARDER CALLED NISHA THAT YOU SHOULD TRADE TIRUPATI WITH GUIDANCE OF SHREEDHAR RAVI BANGALORE AND ME


SHE SOLD IT AROUND 47 ON MY ADVICE AND SHE COVERED IT AT 42-43 ODD

I COVERED IT PART AT 41.50 AND OTHER AT 38.50

COZ AFTER 12:50 I GOT A CLEAR SIGNAL THAT NOW IT IS READY TO TOPPLE

REST YOU CAN CHECK MY POSTS ON TIRUPATI AND COMMERCIAL BODY BUILDERS BOARD


THESE PEOPLE HAVE ADDED SHAME TO THIS BOARD

I HAVE WRITTEN A VEREY SERIOU MAIL TO CHITTORGARH TO REMOVE ANONYMUS POLICY

ALTHOUGH TRAFFIC INCREASES BY IT TEMPORARY

IN THE LONG RUN IT WILL REDUCE

ESP. BY SEEING THIS ABUSIVE PEOPLE WOMEN BOARDERS WILL NOT COME HERE MESSENGAR


THIS WILL BECOME A YAHO CHAT BOARD WHERE TEENAGERS YELL AT EACH OTHER AND BUSE EACH OTHERS FOR FUN


YOU CAN CLEARLY SEE THIS GUYS FRUSTATION


PLZ IGNORE PEOPLE LIKE THESE


THEY ARE A SHAME TO SUCH A FAMOUS CHITTORGARH THAT I GROWING BY LEAPS AND BOUNDS COZ OF PEOPLE LIKE SHREEDHAR GEM RAVI BANGALORE ETC. ETC. ETC..

311 Anonymus

I am still Confident

Of Moser Baer the next 5 years it will be a 5 bagger for sure

Yes i did not see any problem with INDO SOLAR

INDO SOLAR HAS BAD VALUATIONS

IT IS A GOOD BUY AT 10-15 RUPEES AND IN A CRASH I.E. O.5 TIMES ORDER BOOK PLANEED BY 2012-13

BUT THE MANAGEMENT IS NEW NO PAST TRACH RECORD

SO IT IS BETTER TO BY MOSER BAER


I RECOMMENDED MOSER AT 58 FOR MY CLIENTS

SUGGESTED IT AT 62 TO BOADERS

NOW IT IS 70 RUPEES

WHERE ARE LOSSES...?


BHARTI AT 250 IS BAD

BUT NOW FOR PROPLE LIKE YOU IS GOOD...?


HPCL WAS NOT BOUGHT BY ANYBODY OR ANT MUTUAL FUND LAST 3 YEARS AND IT TRADED IN A RANGE FOR SO LONG

AND WENT AS LOW AS 290 4 MONTHS AGO

THE ONLY ONE BULLISH ON THIS ONE WAS THE LEGENDARY SCHOL DROPOUT INVESTOR OF MOTILAL OSWAL GROUP : RAMDEO AGARWAL

TODAY MUTUAL FUNDS ARE NOW ADDING OVERWEIGHT TO IT

WHICH RAMDEO WAS OVEREIGHT FOR IT LAST 3 YEARS

HE HAD TO WAIT FOR 3 LONG YEARS

NOW IN JUST 4 MONTHS

HIS INVESTMENT HAS DOUBLED

THAT CAGR OF 30% P.A.

AND IN FUTURE IT WILL GIVE HIM POST COMPLETE DECONTYROL OF DIESEL AND LPG COZ GOVERNMENT JUST DUSTRIBUTED ITS FIRST UID CARD

THUS RICH PEOPLE WILL BE GIVEN NO SUBSIDIES ONLY POOR PEOPLE WILL BE GIVEN SUBSIDY

THE MARKET CAP OF HPCL IS 17,373 CRORES

ITS SALES ARE ALONE 1,00,0000 CRORE

SO YOU CAN IMAGINE WHAT RAMDEO AGARWAL WILL NOW REAP OUT OF HPCL AFTER DECONTROL FOR WAITINGH 3 LONG YEARS


INVESTING IS ALL ABOUT PATIENCE DEAR BOARDERS AND WAITING

ONCE YOU ARE CONFIDENT OF AN IDEA AND BY SOMETHING CHEAP

YOU WILL ALWAYS MAKE MONEY IN LONG TERM AND STUPID SHORT TERM AND DAY TRADERS WHO MADE FUN OF YOU THEN WILL NOT SHOW YOU THEIR FACE

YOU WILL HAVE THE LAST LAUGH

COZ LONG TERM INVESTOR ALWAYS WINS AND SHORT TERM LOSES


95% + PEOPLE LOSE IN DAY TRADING ULTIMATELY THAT IS PROVED BY STUDIES WORLD OVER.


SO PEOPLE LIKE THIS ANONYMUS WHO HAS JUST A SHORT TERM OR DAY TRADER AND HAS NO IDEA OF LONG TERM INVESTING



IS COMING HERE AND BLAMING ME FOR SOMTHING THAT I NEVER ADVCIED

AND PLUS I AM ENJOYING PROFITS

TODAY MOSER BAER WAS BACK TO 69.70 AND 70.40 IN MY 5 LOTS OF FUTURE THAT I AM CARRYING OVER AS DELIVERY BY TRANSFERRING EVERY MONTH FROM 58 RUPEES SINCE MAY 2010.


SO BOARDERS AS I SAID BEFORE

PEOPLE WHO ARE BLAMING ITS A BAS INVESTMENT

HAVE LIMITED KNOWLEDGE AND GIVING COPY PASTE STUFF FROM SOME ANALYSIS

I HOWEVER ON THE OTHER HAND ON POST NO 309


"GAVE YOU THE REAL FACTS"


SO IS TILL MAINTAIN

FAIR PRICE FOR ELECTROSTEEL IS RS. 14.70 PER SHARE

IT IS PRICED AT 0.79 TIMES EARNINGS AT PRICE OF RS. 11 IF THAT IS ISSUE PRICE


AND ITS PECV

THAT IN FINANCE TERM MEANS

PROFIT EARNING CAPACITY VALUE (P.E.C.V.)


USED TO VALUE NEW PROJECTS THAT ARE ABOUT TO IMPLEMENT IN A COMPANY


SO THAT P.E.C.V. VALUES IT AT 19.80 PER SHARE AFTER PROJECT COMPETES IN 2012


SO DO NOT OPEN YOUR MOUTH IF IT GIVES LISTING GAIN


ALTHOUGH I DID NOT SUGGEST IT FOR SHORT TERM AND THIS IS LONG TERM

BUT EVEN IN GPPL IF YOU REMEMBER I MENTIONED FOR LONG TERM AND I DO NOT EXPECT TOO MUCH GAIN ON LISTING


BUT IT HAS NOW SURPASSED MY FAIR PRICE TARGET OF 55 BEFORE MY TIMELINE



SO YOU NEVER KNOW


ANYWAYS DONT PANIC

IF YOU HAVE FAITH IN MY RESEARCH COZ OTHERS ARE JUST COPY PASTING


Regards

and congrats to ELOCTROSTEEL SHAREHOLDERS....!!


MAY THIS BE THE BEST INVESTMENT IN YOUR LONG TERM PORTFOLIO AFTER GPPL KIND OF CONTRA ASSET PLAY THUS FARE

electrosteel will rock on listing day itself , even no need for long term.........

Electrosteel is a biggest disappointment among all ipos.
Reason

1)It has a debt of 5400 crore and it is a very small size company going for expansion.
check all steel and iron ore small cap companies.

i remember people asking to invest in southern ispat with similar kind of expansion to buy at 30 rs it is available in market at 11.80 paisa.
cechk ramsarup industries

2)Usually retailers have in mind that 11 rs is cheap but if you cechk it is more expensive than vatech wabag ipo.
vatech wabag being debt free only raised 125 crore but electrosteel planned to arise 250 crore double size with huge loans and debt on books

its planning of commision is 2012 so would you stick for 2 years ina acompany .check all loong term stories like indiabulls power available at 30% discount to issue price.people who exited on listing at 38 rs are better than those stuck at 28 rs now

so sell sell sell electrostell on llisting day to avoid further losses.
Rememmebr SJ was confident for indolsolar and moser baer for lonmg term after 2 years and chck their prices.

Thats really helpful Sj.

Thanks.

can someone provide the allotment link ...

It will list above 30% to 40% sure shot..
enjoy...