Everyone in a certain category is allotted at same price. Company decides that and even in case of undersubscription they have ways to still allot shares at higher price band. So I see no advantage here, only harm of application being invalid for allotment
@MRavi Sir, I pray for early recovery of your huge losses in Chaman, Earthsthal & other recent SMEs. You have been a great force behind CG forum members. Your strength is our strength 🙏
@ipo share, Thanks for those kind words 👌. I have no doubt in these scrips (Chaman, Earth, Phantom, Drone, AlleTech, RBM, Vital, Silicon, INA... etc) as all are fundamentally strong stocks, only matter of time. The recent fall in most of the SME's are due to weak market sentiment. I am holding all my lots and will add as and when I have enough cash. All the best to you. 👍
@MRavi sir, any advice on ambo agritec.? I am holding from it's peak price of 46 and roaming around 31-32 now since more than 2 months.. what are your thoughts ? Based on performance, results, future plans, sector opportunity.. request to throw some light
Interest is low in this one also no activity in gray market. Very difficult to predict as of now. Good QIB subscription tomorrow may bring some additional HNI subscription.
64.2. Imhilli| Link| Bookmark|
March 2, 2023 6:29:43 PM
IPO Guru (1200+ Posts, 700+ Likes)
Apply from all accounts for sure. But HNI or RII will be decided tomorrow. As of now scenario is not very optimistic.
Good to see HNI THREAD after a long time , thanks for opening it 👍 Cold response so far, but subscription usually come in the last day only. Let’s hope for a good subscription and end of dry mainboard IPO run. I will apply, how much will decide tomorrow last hour.
64.4. SSingh| Link| Bookmark|
March 3, 2023 6:23:32 AM
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Most of the HNIs will go for SYSTANGO (SME IPO) as GMP is much favourable (ROI wise).
64.5. PLAZA| Link| Bookmark|
March 3, 2023 8:10:12 AM
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@Gaurav DD dimer, As @Avenue said, very happy to see a HNI thread after long time. Once it was very actively participated by so many renowned CG members, now become an exception.
Personally, I would like to skip this main board as the wounds from few main boards are not healed yet😜, instead would be happy to buy some SME from the discount sale 😉
Thanks
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March 3, 2023 10:04:39 AM
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It's looks like 10% plus minus bet. Company is over all doing good with focus on EV. There OPM is excellent with decent growth in CAGR. Future out looks seems promising and Auto sector is in Rising Mode. Few negatives are also there .. like OFS part, average Anchor book , valuation wise they didn't left much for IPO players and past few disappointing performance of Mainboard IPOs. I will apply if QIB cross 30x.
64.11. Smile✍️| Link| Bookmark|
March 3, 2023 10:31:27 AM
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@gauravji Due to changed allotment rules, NII thread is not as useful as before. Just apply as per availability of funds and money making opportunity is simple conclusion.
64.12. Safe Bet| Link| Bookmark|
March 3, 2023 10:35:34 AM
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@MRabiSir: Any worthwhile discounted SME you can suggest/share for mid term. Thanks and regards.
@Safe Bet, Though I agree with @Gaurav DD dimer on most of them, my picks are here: - From the recent results safe bets with less risk: Phantom, All E tech, JSLL - Potential for future good results (6 months to one year): INA, RBM, Viviana, Technopack, Vital, Earth, Chaman, Arham, Vedant Assets - Potential winner - Virtuoso (Ashish Kacholia bought through preferential allotment at 142 Rs): can buy 160 -165 for a one year time frame.
Disclosure: I have invested in all the above. my opinion could be biased unintentionally
Thanks
64.17. Safe Bet| Link| Bookmark|
March 3, 2023 11:11:28 AM
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Had planned 4BHni apps. But seeing the subscription fiasco now thinking of skipping all together.
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March 3, 2023 11:11:42 AM
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You want get allotment at Lower price band. first of all shni will be overconfident. If it won't then they prefer to allot to retailers/QIB of unsubscribe portion instead of giving it at lower price.
Not impressive subscription at all.... Auto ancillaries sector isn't performing well currently in the market .... Uniparts still below IPO price even after good results.... Harsha went below IPO price before recovering somewhat. The sector is at crossroads with the advent of the EV era. Any major expansion with Capex can be a liability in the long run. The GMP seems to be a trap. Uniparts had at one time 25% GMP and it's GMP stayed around 8-10% till the listing date and yet it closed way below IPO price on listing day... Divi Torq may have better products to offer but the asking PE is very expensive. I am not saying that it will list in the red, it may surprise pleasantly, but the returns chances doesn't seem attractive.....hence skipping. Not an expert so no recommendations for others....
64.24. Safe Bet| Link| Bookmark|
March 3, 2023 12:07:50 PM
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@MRavi Ji, Thanks for your valuable inputs..... Holding Phantom, Alle longterm... will try to add some of your recommendations for sure....
@ValueSeeker... I am sure you already know but still would like to share. Apply four sHNI only if you can handle 8 lacs allotment. Once I was allotted all 4 and it became a headache...
Major concerns are Valuation and client concentration of top 5 customer contributes 92% of revenue.
Positives are market leading postion and only exporter of transfer case systems in India and near zero debt
Recently listed Uniparts also in auto ancillary sector and similarly was leading player in off highway vehicles (Divgi is leading in passanger and commercial vehicles) segment but not sustaining even at current 12 PE Valuation so this one at ~35 PE doesn't looks attractive for listing and long term
And as per Capital market review "Auto ancillary companies of similar size in revenue to DTTS such as ZF Steering and RACL Geartech quotes at a PE of 21.3 times and 27.97 times"
3PL and PMP profucts of uniparts have huge competition and even small players manufacture it.
On the other hand, Divgi have niche in many products and it’s sole manufacturer of Torque Couplor and largest supplier of Torque case in India.
Also, expected market size growth for Divgi’s many products are 50-60% whereas Uniparts are 7-10%. This is my view justifies high valuations for Divif and low valuations for Uniparts
63.2. Imhilli| Link| Bookmark|
March 3, 2023 8:25:38 AM
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@Akhil Yes Growth opportunity until 5 years is good but still it's risky bet at such valuation , if demand come in subscription then may get listing gain
Skipping this one as I don't expect substantial listing gains. Will focus on two better quality smes.
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March 3, 2023 8:42:45 AM
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Skipping completely or going with RII? Chance of allotment in the 2 IPOs will not be good, whereas, main board has pretty good chance. Here my only worry is valuation. Is PE 35+ justified?
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March 2, 2023 3:45:20 PM
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Applying retail from all accs. Imo should not list below issue price,thought the same with uniparts but market suprised me. Lets see how this goes. All the best to all applicants.
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March 2, 2023 11:50:50 AM
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The 2-month gap after the last IPO (Sah Polymers) is sure to bring some euphoria into the primary market. Thankfully, DTTS is poised for some action with its decent business, good book, and financials. Valuations aren't impressive but better comparatively (reminds me of my Sona BLW darling that I'm holding since IPO). Save for the naught GMP and a poor rating (44/100) by Capital Market, I don't see any issue with this. Retail folks apply for listing gains only.
@Smile, thank you. I don't want to wish to move to HNI as I said my bigger bets are on wider indices like NIFTY, S&P500, and NASDAQ. IPOs are only a "shauk" for me and luckily I have the wherewithal to do it.
@God is Great and @ultrasnow, thank you for your words.
Exited completely at 597 due to fear of market volatility. Nifty already on its way below 17k and I need to take a breather. Congratulations to all allottees as counter gave enough time to exit without loss and meagre profit. Thanks.