Hi @ipo stonks - Could you please confirm if you took HNI funding from Bajaj? Just want to understand if they are funding data patterns IPO. Thank you!
With HNI 254.22x, my estimate based on 1.1 lac crores was off by 30x.
The total HNI contri of Data Patterns + Medplus Health Services+ MapmyIndia-C.E.Info systems + Shriram Properties + Metro Brands-Shoes come to = Rs 1,08,421.11 Crores which is pretty close to 1.1 lac crores suggested by experts on this forum
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December 16, 2021 11:18:46 PM
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If someone has applied IPO from HNI category via ASBA , then can he apply in retail category also from with same demate account number as used in HNI category?
@lokes also one more thing ( i know you may already answered this in some forum but i am unable to find it)
Can we apply from 7-8 different pan / demat accounts via one upi id? or should i use different upi platforms like phnepe.. bhim but connected to only one bank account , does that make a difference??
Because i got successful allotment while applying through my upi in friend''s demat account but that time i used only one application via my upi..
and now i am considering to apply to 8-10 different demat accounts but i have only 1 upi id ( does different platform upi but same bank considered as different upi id then )??
I know its frustating replying to different people about the same content but i am really confused here as i cant send people money to different bank accounts for the time of ipo because that will create many credit entries.
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December 16, 2021 8:45:44 PM
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@rabby: for single application with third party upi, its working usually but for multiple demats using same upi id, i am not sure, someone mentioned it was not allotted that way in linkintime in under subscribed ipo too. You can go through this below thread for more info: https://www.chittorgarh.com/ipo/ipo_discussions.asp?a=1187&c=481068&ap=0
Better if possible you can use bank account ASBA mode also to apply for 5 applications by using funds from same bank without transferring etc.
Your chances are around 5.5 - 5.6% (14/254.22) Actually in HNI - Chances depend on multiple factors such as Number of application , Oversubscription etc
But in 14 lots category there are many other applications so your chances will be around this only.
You can go through BOA of completed IPOs to understand this - Anand Rathi BOA is now available on Chittorgarh.
Applied 21 applications.... looking at the gmp and demand, retail could be between 23-26x in total and application wise 15-17x... Hope everyone who applied in CE infosystems also applies in this one..... Good luck
That might b the reason, as I was also expecting 400x subscriptions for this one.
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December 16, 2021 4:40:22 PM
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No one is scared bhai, its all about funds due to multiple ipos together. Normally it doesn''t crossed 1.1 lakh crore total in all ipos together in HNI and this time also it has reached there considering all current ipos HNI subscriptions. That was the reason in sigachi too for less subscription and here also. it has still managed good subscription i feel after mapmyindia/medplus and other small ipos funds block.
I''m clearly seeing gmp as a threat to Funded HNIs....it suddenly became unstable... hovering between 360-450..... it''s scary to take risks as tega made a blunder...
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December 16, 2021 6:18:03 PM
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@monster zero ...In 3rd party application allotment ...3rd party refunds the money after selling shares in their demat account ...how this money received from 3rd party will be shown in income tax ??
If you and your 3rd party are liable to pay tax, then you must only show the total profit amount. IT knows where the money comes from and where the money goes.
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December 16, 2021 7:21:32 PM
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In 3rd party application allotment ...3rd party refunds the money after selling shares in their demat account ...how this money received from 3rd party will be shown in income tax ?? Anyone ??
Total Funds Blocked in HNI in Ongoing IPOs - CE (MapMyindia) - 66.23K Crore Metro - 0.62KCrore Medplus - 18.2K Cr
Around 85,000 Crore
Expected HNI subscription in Data Patterns around 300-350X Also I heard that some Major NBFC are not funding this IPO - So more than this unexpected. Let''s see.
Slightly Lower Subscription at 254.22x Bringing HNI total to 22.93K Crore
Total Funds Blocked ~ 1.08 L Crore
Figure of 1.10 L Crore has been respected.
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December 16, 2021 6:04:32 PM
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@harshad: ya till now its around this much highest. taking this into account, i was initially thinking here around 250-300X only after medplus but since there is mad rush of funds from funded HNI''s recently so thought may be this limit will break this time but its still intact :) Btw you changed your name as per @MOG style :) Nice.
@lokes Actually I think there was some funding problem for this issue as till yesterday Bajaj People were saying they are still not funding this issue. But I read in this forum that someone has got Bajaj Funding.
So maybe the limit maybe breached next year . And yes I changed Name - I think this one suits me better. Less is better Short is better
I appreciate your services because on this platform we are getting every detail at one place only. Experts have answered every questions asked by me and it helped me so much.
Moreover, views from experts like lokes, nurul, chalak lomdi, monster zero and others are very valuable for not only decision making but also understanding technical details, fundamentals and other strategies..
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December 16, 2021 4:15:45 PM
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@confusing: @param said it rightly ;) Anyways by tonight, banks will start sending debit messages, as it happens normally. kotak is too fast, it will update in app as "allotted pending for debit" if allotted. Icici also normally sends messages in night. Remaining depends on individual banks. On linkintime site, it may come today late night or by tomorrow morning.
Due to funding problems Data Patt. GMP down to 370. Also the fund of mapmyindia not used in Data. As well as QIB Also little late to subscribe. All those results GMP sharply down.
If I want only listing gain, how should I act on the listing day?
Can I put AMC order?
BTW thank you to all the experts in the forum You had been a great help.. 🙏🙏🙏
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December 16, 2021 5:51:14 PM
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Preopen time for ipo''s listing is from 9 to 9.45am(better to put order by 9.44am last). Buying order during preopen will get executed if its equal to or more than final listing price (which will be known at 9.45am) and all orders placed between 9 to 9.44am will get executed at 9.45am exact. You can put buy LIMIT order anytime from 9am to 9.44am at upper circuit price. Keep upgrading your order at newer upper circuit limit if upper circuit is getting revised till 9.44am if you want to be sure of buying at any listing price. Reverse thing can be followed to sell during preopen, means keep sell order at any low price (for sure sell), order will be executed at listing price only. Sell order will get executed if its equal to or less than final listing price.
Query: If i applied 36 lots in HNI, then my query is that Can I apply in Retail with one lot for the same demat account or not? Will both application will be considered or both rejected or anyone will be considered ?
both of your applications will be rejected. only one application is allowed against one pan card.. so it can be either retail application or HNI application, but not both..
By hindsight, it can now be said that I should have been more prudent, eschewed Mappy and applied HNI here. Par ab pachhtaye hote kya...
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December 16, 2021 3:09:18 PM
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I don''t find Ravi Sir comments.. Sir How many lot you have applied?
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December 16, 2021 3:22:09 PM
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If you are talking about MRavi, i think he has applied 0 lots in this. There was an earlier conversation between MRavi and lokes that, he shouldn''t forget that he in NRI and should not apply. Because even if he applies his application will get rejected. It seems NRIs are not allowed to apply in defense sector IPOs.
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December 16, 2021 3:24:24 PM
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Thank you DuckkyDuck..
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December 16, 2021 3:23:36 PM
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