Applied 2 lot 1 through asba & 1 upi Upi mandate not accepted subscriptions figures not favorable maximum listing gain 10 to 15% discount listing chances high better secondary mkt thousands of companies shares next 4-5 days attractive prices soon
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March 17, 2021 11:32:58 PM
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Promoters have been successful in trapping retail investors. This IPO will surely list at discount. Since its only 3 times subscribed in retail portion, there is no escape for people who have invested.
Nice question, If you remember I was the only person telling everyone should apply for Gland Pharma as MF has subscribed for this. Here since no MF has applied so waiting for the same, Once MF category has applied i will apply and update
Use UPI mode for IPO application in such case. If Mutual Funds / QIBs apply with good numbers, accept UPI mandate which you can do till midnight. If not, then do not accept mandate.
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March 17, 2021 5:01:49 PM
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it won''t be gland Pharma for sure, even discount listing may possible.
In gland pharma HNI and RII both subscription were very less so consolidation was already happened before listing, from listing its only QIB play so gland performed very well.
Craftsman is not dept free company that is major concern.
None. Gland''s subscription was less because of highly patriotic social media influencers who preached anti-china sentiment. No one said it was not a good/great company. Here, the fundamentals are mehh.. very mediocre., subscription is less because of the flood of IPOs this week.. this company isnt that good compared to the other choices available.
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March 17, 2021 10:00:35 PM
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@OMi There were many more comment on Gland being expensive Rs 1 face value asking Rs 1500 plus ignoring nearly Rs 350 book value China was one part. If you see Gland board messages you will find issue was trashed for financial performance also Any way it is not to say that it will run like Gland but company is good and MFs have taken exposure what they want to hold. Higher bids of QIBs are not proof of any thing. MFs aim to get certain allotment and apply knowing fully well that rest of money will come back When i applied for Rs. 2.5 lakh in Craftsman i have capacity to absorb full if allotted. However later on subscription in HNI category went up (may be people like my thinking) and oversubscription became around 2.8
Option 1 : no knows what''s coming in market, it''s your choice. That''s the positve side. Option 2 : seeing the subscriptions, if u can hold for months, then GO FOR IT.
Yes you should, here you go for detailed analysis it will list 25% gains on day1. Laxmi organics, anupam rasayan are old economy stocks and more over commodity chemical stocks . where ever euphoria is there , one can expect listing gains , but not secular returns over a period of time. Examples : Bector Food is trading at 26% above issue price Burger King - 126% . Thank god, FII did not dump yet , else it will be south ward direction Stove Kraft - Just 16% returns as on today HomeFirst Finance - 7% Negative returns Antony waste handling - 11% Negative returns Indian Railway Finance corporation - 7% Negative returns Indigo Paints - 59% Returns Nureca - 47% Railtel -44% Heranba - a meager 5% returns as on Today MTAR - 40% Key LESSONS LEARNT FOR RETAILERS all issues over more than 3 times where as Gland Pharma is just 2 times . Return wise Gland is the 2nd Best - 69% ( next to Burger King ) , one would have lapped up full quantity in Gland Pharma and enjoyed the returns till today, rather than applying for all issues in multiple accounts and awaiting for lottery. Gland will be a multi bagger down the line. post results and any knee jerk reaction by FII post FOMC or any bond yield rises or dollar index strengthening or churning among EMs, Burger king may tank down and may end up in meagre returns . Craftsman will give solid returns if one has enough patience
it will list 25% gains on day1. Laxmi organics, anupam rasayan are old economy stocks and more over commodity chemical stocks . where ever euphoria is there , one can expect listing gains , but not secular returns over a period of time. Examples : Bector Food is trading at 26% above issue price Burger King - 126% . Thank god, FII did not dump yet , else it will be south ward direction Stove Kraft - Just 16% returns as on today HomeFirst Finance - 7% Negative returns Antony waste handling - 11% Negative returns Indian Railway Finance corporation - 7% Negative returns Indigo Paints - 59% Returns Nureca - 47% Railtel -44% Heranba - a meager 5% returns as on Today MTAR - 40% Key LESSONS LEARNT FOR RETAILERS all issues over more than 3 times where as Gland Pharma is just 2 times . Return wise Gland is the 2nd Best - 69% ( next to Burger King ) , one would have lapped up full quantity in Gland Pharma and enjoyed the returns till today, rather than applying for all issues in multiple accounts and awaiting for lottery. Gland will be a multi bagger down the line. post results and any knee jerk reaction by FII post FOMC or any bond yield rises or dollar index strengthening or churning among EMs, Burger king may tank down and may end up in meagre returns . Craftsman will give solid returns if one has enough patience
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March 17, 2021 5:08:13 PM
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Now we can see many people like it go down and down. Because of them missed out the opportunity and they will surly shout.
Dear Lekkar, Apply with full force. Listing gain possible because strong Anchor book. Anchor book including Wipro Premji Group invested 55 cr. in Anchor Book, and expecting good qib portion, and retail may be 5 to 8 times possible. If qib below 15 times then we skip.
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March 14, 2021 10:08:00 AM
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Thanks Sir, now my strategy is and priorities are
Laxmi , applying on first day from all accounts Anupam , applying 50% applications using asba, 50% upi applications (will approve mandate if qib and hni response is good) Craftsman, 100% upi applications (will decide if mandate need to approve)
If fund left then will apply Nazara (allotment chance is less so not thinking much about this IPO)
Kalyan (this issue i am interesting and can give surprise on listing) will decide on last day after closely watching anchor and subscription
Suryoday (yet to decide)
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March 17, 2021 5:44:10 PM
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Sir , have you applied with full capacity ?
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March 17, 2021 5:45:08 PM
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as QIB not even crossed double digit, I have only accepted one application.
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March 17, 2021 6:37:14 PM
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@Avenue Final NII looks like 2.84 times. So allotment will be equal to 6 lots (right kind of risk) in my view
Lot of people comparing this to Gland Pharma IPO situation.
Gland''s subscription was less because of highly patriotic social media influencers who preached anti-china sentiment. No one said it was not a good/great company.
Here, the fundamentals are mehh.. very mediocre., subscription is less because of the flood of IPOs this week.. this company isnt that good compared to the other choices available. This company timed the market to achieve high valuations in the current boom..
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March 17, 2021 3:08:45 PM
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Lol Gland is a debt free company and Craft automation has debt of 700 crore out of sales of 1500 Cr which is pathetic .it is a joke to compare gland with craft auto ipo
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March 17, 2021 5:20:57 PM
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@ipoanalusis Object of primary issue is to reduce debt. 2ndly you need to see debt 3 years ago (long term) not working capital Company has reduced debt to significant extent in 3 years
Yes it will go through as already oversubscribed by retail and QIB''s. And NII ka share proportion in dono categories me distribute kr denge.
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March 17, 2021 4:32:44 PM
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I think!! NII mostly applies through borrowed money. So if they are less then ita may likely decrease volatility as they square''s off their position on the very first day because of interest cost. Beside this less subscription may also represent long term investor.