For 3 rd party ASBA Bank will update their software with register Pan of Account holder like ICICI & HDFC & Yes Bank done it so on these bank we will not able to add & amend 3rd party Pan no. time of register so no way to discuss the possibility. only option Open the bank account with same name of demat ac. jabtak benefit mila enjoy kiya ab time Gya to gya.
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August 10, 2023 12:35:12 PM
IPO Guru (1300+ Posts, 500+ Likes)
*IPO ભરવા વારા માટે વધુ સારા સમાચાર* 🎊
*1-9-23 થી IPO પૂરો થાય એ પછી ના 3 જા WORKING ડે એ લિસ્ટિંગ થશે.....*
*આ તારીખ ફરજીયાત નથી જે કંપની ત્રીજા દિવસે કરવા માંગે તે ત્રીજા દિવસે કરી શકશે ને 6દિવસે કરવા માંગે તો એ મુજબ કરી શકશે....*
*1-12-23 થી દરેક કંપની એ ફરજીયાત ત્રીજા દિવસે લિસ્ટિંગ કરવું પડશે.. મતલબ IPO નો સમય ઘટશે.. વધુ IPO આવશે...*
*સાથે સાથે બેંક મા પાનકાર્ડ ફરજીયાત કરી નાખ્યું છે..... DEMAT ને બેંક નો PAN નંબર મેચ થશે તોજ અરજી ગણાશે....3RD પાર્ટી અરજી ફરજીયાત બંધ થઇ જશે.* 👍
Till now bank is expected to verify whether application is third party or not , now registrar of an issue is mandated to do so ... So once the new rule comes in , no more third party application allowed ...
Feeling Mixed reaction ... so far i used my business Current Account spare fund for IPO application , now that wont be possible i guess ...
Third Party ab strictly band hoga UPI Third Party T+1 before 9:30 AM ASBA Third Party before 1 PM check hoga PAN Bank Demat mis match hua to reject...
1-2 IPO me reject hua to application kam hi lagegi Allotment will be more easy (Muje kya me khud 6-7 application third party karta hu🥲) sbse badi dikkat Linkintime walo ko hogi before 9PM allotment dena he 😅
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August 10, 2023 9:16:44 AM
IPO Guru (1500+ Posts, 1100+ Likes)
kal Vinsys ka allotment linkintime ne 3:50 de diya tha.
Why do a few 3rd Party UPI/ASBA IPO applications get an allotment?
As per the regulation, the funds for IPO applications should come from the bank account linked to the demat account used for the IPO application.
The stock exchanges along with the registrar and banks are responsible to validate this information.
➡️ Process of validating 3rd Party Bank Account in IPO Application
Following is the process stock exchanges, registrars, and banks follow to find the 3rd Party bank accounts used in the IPO application:
1. Once the public issue closes, the exchange sends the IPO application file to all the banks to take the confirmation that the bank account linked in the demat account is the same used in the IPO application.
2. Banks get only a day to revert. There are lakhs of records to validate.
3. Some banks revert with the confirmation of whether the account numbers match or not.
4. Exchange puts a flag (Valid or 3rd Party) and sends it to the registrar.
5. The registrar rejects all IPO applications which are flagged as 3rd party.
6. In some cases, the 3rd party flag comes as empty from the exchange. It happens in the case where a few banks do not respond in the given time. These are the records that are neither rejected nor accepted by the bank.
7. The registrar sends the file with pending records to the banks again and waits for one more day. Registrar gets a few confirmations. Some banks still do not respond in time.
8. If confirmation is not received from banks, the benefit of the doubt is given to the IPO applicant. This is because banks are supposed to own this. No one else can confirm if the information is correct or not.
9. Wherever such confirmations do not come, by default those applications cannot be rejected, hence they are considered for allotment.
It’s a wrong thing that these people are getting allotments but there is no way to check because banks are the only agency that can check the account number.
Banks are not able to handle the load of validating lakhs of IPO application data for every IPO in a short period. Thus they don’t send the confirmation and in the process, some people are getting benefited.
As per the registrar, a few applications fall under the category of ‘not-validated 3rd party bank account’. They are not ready to share the actual percentage of these applications.
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August 10, 2023 9:24:20 AM
IPO Guru (1500+ Posts, 1100+ Likes)
@Chhattisgarh Banks are just lazy. They have all the data. Phir lakh application ho yaa crore, database me SQL ki 1 query kuchh seconds me validate kar sakti hai, bank ka PAN aur demat ka PAN matching hai ya nahi.
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August 10, 2023 10:38:53 AM
IPO Mentor (700+ Posts, 500+ Likes)
@MVP I don't know why you only look from your perspective, bank🏦 employees have their own problems, they... they don't even know what the query is and where to run this!😴😪🤧🤓 😂😅
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August 10, 2023 10:41:27 AM
IPO Guru (1500+ Posts, 1100+ Likes)
@vvipp software me one time change hai ye. Roz roz nahi karna padega 🤦🏻♂️ Website pe thoda kaam kare, to ye validation IPO application submit karte samay bhi real time kar sakte hain. 🤷🏻♂️
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August 10, 2023 10:48:11 AM
IPO Guru (1500+ Posts, 1100+ Likes)
In case, you are confuse with "banks are lazy" 1. IPO applications lene me aur use exchange ko send karne me kisi employee ka koi kaam nahi hota, everything is automated now a days. Only for physical forms manual work is involved, they are very less now a days 2. Lazy - for implementing validation feature in their software. It requires (one time) software update and expenses for bank to implement.
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August 10, 2023 10:52:08 AM
IPO Mentor (700+ Posts, 500+ Likes)
@MVP Bank employees: Ye wali konsi query hai? 😳🤩🤔🥱😪
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August 10, 2023 10:54:11 AM
IPO Guru (1500+ Posts, 1100+ Likes)
No point explaining 🙏🏻 Khush raho
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August 10, 2023 10:55:56 AM
IPO Mentor (700+ Posts, 500+ Likes)
@MVP Yeah, but in some time they have to do all this work in short span of time, no matter what. T+3 will also be in action soon!🔜
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August 10, 2023 11:00:24 AM
IPO Mentor (700+ Posts, 500+ Likes)
@MVP Areeey...😅 I was just kidding. I know what you are saying. Hope I didn't bother you much.🤝😋
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August 10, 2023 1:23:37 PM
Top Contributor (200+ Posts, 100+ Likes)
Aaj bhi kuch cities mein Bank walon ko ye bhi nahi pata ke ipo asba physical form system mein kaise upload karte hai
Focus of banks has always been on bringing new customers on-board rather than serving efficiently the existing ones. Bank employees (looking after demat activities) do not even know the IPO application cut-off time (last day) for their banks. Experienced with Au bank & Kotak bank. Jab private bank ki ye halat ha to SBI ka to hamesha lunch time hi hota hai Anyway this is related to the system (not the individual) which they have to augment and implement, may take a while but meant to happen by the deadline.
@Jv shah You cannot have two separate applications using same PAN no. It may render both invalid, but sometimes thr have been instances where RTA have accepted the larger application after rejecting the smaller one. However, as per SEBI rules, you can cancel your application any time before BoA is finalized, by writing to the RTA. That way if you want, you can ensure that one of your application remains valid.
GMP looking good atm, If retailers confident on issue and hold it gonna list above 900 or if they panicked on listing day it gonna list below 700 that's for sure
@Admin @ Chittorgarh.com I am writing to kindly request the addition of a new feature that I believe would significantly enhance the user experience. It would be immensely helpful if you could introduce an option for searching comments on IPOs by username. This feature would allow users like me to easily track and engage with the insights and opinions shared by specific users regarding IPOs.
@Heritage Wale **Kadam Kadam Badhaye Ja, Khusike Geet Gaayeja, Ye Jindgi Hai Share Market ki, Share Market pe Lootayeja**. GMP aur bhi badhayeja. Khuseke Geet Gayeja. Sub ko hilaye ja.
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August 9, 2023 1:27:33 AM
IPO Guru (1300+ Posts, 500+ Likes)
@Heritage Wale sir , any news about Mad elephant gang ... are they active in this counter sir ????
Issue with IKIA is its into commodity EMS like LED bulbs/lighting so for it to keep the growth and EPS expansion forward can be a challenge, better book your capital and remain invested with the profits keeping strict SL and check out the next earning announcement as and when they come out.
My best wishes to all who applied for the concord ipo. One question - How do you manage so much capital for applying BHNI? Is it self funding or financed by brokerage/banks?
Note: I am intrigued by ipo's and want to grow in this space. Your answers will help me for sure.
if someone has sold in grey, he can use financing.
But someone who doesn't sell / does not have access to grey, would not apply in such IPOs using loan. With current market volatilty, gmp could disappear easily. So listing loss+interest cost+other charges and taxes becomes unbearable. hence, mostly self funded.