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Coal India Limited IPO Message Board (Page 205)

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111. GEM IPO FINDER |   Link |  Bookmark | September 4, 2010 7:40:26 PM
saharanpuriji,

in year 2008 it has sales of Rs.623 crores , pat Rs. 4.53 crores and in 2009 it had sales of Rs. 1155 crores, pat of Rs.41 crores,so growing at 100% on yoy basis for sales, no clear trend for profit growth its 10 times in one yr for the 6 months ended sept '09 it had sales of Rs. 475 crores, pat of Rs.3.45 crores.

lets wait for managment guidance on tv to assess the correct position of the co in 2008 its eps was 4 in 2009 its 43 in 6 months in 2010 its 6, there is no trend seen no extraordinary income found in 2009

it will be best among next 3 ipo for % gain, will be heavily oversubscribed due to its smaller size of i guess Rs 200-250 crores as the fresh issue is only for Rs 120 crores rest 23.5 laks are offer for sale.

110. gem ipo finder |   Link |  Bookmark | September 4, 2010 7:05:40 PM
saharanpuri,

welecome back.

i think there is no need to analyse it prior to date and price band.

it will be one of the best ipo of 2010, % gain may be very good.

it has unique business model of water and water waste management in 5-6 countries including india. in india most of the big municipal corporation are its clients,

demand for water waste management will be ever green it will grow with the population.

no peers that can be directly comparable upto certain extent we can compare it with ivrcl infra.

now i m reading drhp for more inf, i postponded it till price band or date is announced.
109. Saharanpuri |   Link |  Bookmark | September 4, 2010 5:50:18 PM
Sreedhar,Gem IPO ,Sj

Any idea about EPS,ROE & otehr ratios of upcoming IPO Vatech wabag.How are the fundamentals?

Any idea abt GMP for this n other upcoming IPOs?



108. aRYANrAJ |   Link |  Bookmark | September 4, 2010 2:09:30 PM
Rating agency Crisil assigned an above average 4-on-5 rating to the proposed initial public offer of Reliance Power. ICRA has assigned IPO Grade 4, indicating above average fundamentals, to the IPO. ICRA assigns IPO grading on a scale of 5 to 1, with Grade 5 indicating strong fundamentals and Grade 1 poor.

4/5 for 2nd largest, 5/5 for largest!! Dikhave par mat jao, apni akal lagao.
107. ajit sharma |   Link |  Bookmark | September 4, 2010 9:36:01 AM
Reliance industries ltd aaj tak bazar ka Raja tha ab share market ka MAHA-RAJA aaraha h
DIL KOHOL KAR INVEST KE G YE {RIL SE BHE JYADA DEGA AND BAZAR KO SAMBHALEGA THAT MEANS BLUECHIP SHARE SALE KAR KE COAL INDIA LTD.MAIN LONG TERM INEST KE G YE]
106. K.K.Natarajan |   Link |  Bookmark | September 4, 2010 6:10:28 AM
Message No. 94 is not from the original Ravi, Bangalore. But still let me explain that NTPC and Coal India Ltd are not the same.
105. sreedhar |   Link |  Bookmark | September 3, 2010 11:32:53 PM
If it does not cross 61 within few minutes of listing I will short it with stop loss 61.
104. sreedhar |   Link |  Bookmark | September 3, 2010 11:28:38 PM
GEM,
They are thinking of Issuing 1.25 Cr shares to raise 160 Cr.Consolidated EPS for 6 months ending Sep09 was 6.Anyhow leave aside these figures.Applied 1 less than you so 218 shares less than you.Before Issue just enquire with them what they would be doing with their IPO.BTW Coal India has got 5/5 crisil rating.If Iam not wrong I think it is the 1st one to get it .Will you be applying for Coal India even If it is susbscribed less than once.I think It may just cross 1 time.I think we should not miss it.Such a great asset with the no comparable peers of its size.
103. santonu |   Link |  Bookmark | September 3, 2010 11:19:07 PM
CIL issue size is very very high,donot expect big return as there will be a lot of supply.
102. CHEMCHO |   Link |  Bookmark | September 3, 2010 10:39:47 PM
we have tried our best to stop the limit for rs 2 lakhs
but the govt is firm on the desission and they want to push coal india ipo any how retail subcribtion can be only 1 or 2 times if the limit is increased otherwise it will hardly subribe 1 time as the issue is to big
retail investors will not take high rish as there will be full allotment to every investor
also the issue is very good for long term like grasim ,l&t nestle, reliance ind, sbi , hdfc bank , hdfc, etc
god to hold for children and grand children
101. toshniwal |   Link |  Bookmark | September 3, 2010 8:43:39 PM
Dear sj
Thanks for ur reply. I shall be more careful in future.
100. Sj |   Link |  Bookmark | September 3, 2010 8:22:55 PM
Dear shreedhar

I will give you info as soon i can get

Lemme talk to some operators i know whats the buzz.

Generally operators do not comment before price band announced.

Coz they will also not manipulate if their is no value on the table left for them coz then they will be short changed by Institutional investors.

Regards
99. Sj |   Link |  Bookmark | September 3, 2010 8:16:56 PM
Dear Toshniwal

This is the mistake most of uou guys make.

Always Buy at higher price somethig that is showing good pattern. If it comes at one rupee less than that does not mean it cannot come down or will then go up only after you bought at 191. Look others on this board profited but you were adamant on price.

Anyways look for a dip if you want to hold medium term. Else enter at market price by submitting market order and keep on averaging on dips

Target is 250 but sell at 245 or whatever price it is above 240. Dont be adamant that you will only sell at 250 or 245 only if your order matches.

Otherwise you will book heavy loss also.

Regards
98. toshniwal |   Link |  Bookmark | September 3, 2010 7:56:17 PM
Dear sj
I submitted 100 shares [Garware Polyster] to buy @ 187.10 at 12.55 PM[BSE] but trade couldn't materialize. Should I go for it on monday, if yes then what prise????
I can hold it for short to medium term.
Plz advise...
97. sreedhar |   Link |  Bookmark | September 3, 2010 7:55:06 PM
SJ,
yeah I think it will be operated hence the query.
96. toshniwal |   Link |  Bookmark | September 3, 2010 7:54:20 PM
Dear sj
I submitted 100 shares to buy @ 187.10 at 12.55 PM[BSE] but trade couldn't materialize. Should I go for it on monday, if yes then what prise????
I can hold it for short to medium term.
Plz advise...
95. KEN SHAH |   Link |  Bookmark | September 3, 2010 7:47:16 PM
SJ WHERE CAN I READ YOUR MESSAGE FOR TRADING TIPS
94. Ravi, Bangalore |   Link |  Bookmark | September 3, 2010 7:41:49 PM
Dear K K Natarajam,

Coal India is brother of NTPC?
93. mukul |   Link |  Bookmark | September 3, 2010 7:40:15 PM
Thankyou jain sahab for giving information about microsec.Hoping for an early ipo. I am waiting for the ipo from the quiet some time. I think suddenly a long list of ipo will appear and we will get no time to collect money for the ipo as in the case of eil, sks, and bajaj and prakash.
92. Sj |   Link |  Bookmark | September 3, 2010 7:25:43 PM
Dear Shreedhar

You are right about Garware poly.

Microsec is known in Kolkata.

But whats so unique about the business. Its not scarce like Jubiliant COx Talwarkar or SKS.

It is just another brokerage company a sector which has low barriers to entry and intense compeition from both organised and unorganised players.

Ya may be outlook for sector can be good considering no of demat account holders in India are too low.

But I dont thing I can go long on this for 1 year or so coz as per my prognosis if slowdon or recession in developed markets happens in 2011 brokerage volumes will be affected significantly as was the case in 2008 and early 2009.

Lets see its too early to see

Let price band be declared and then only proper analysis can be done by seeing financials and guidance and other information about the company.

Also i can then talk to some operators out here in Kolkata since it is kolkata based and will be assigned to some set of operators by company in Kolkata to manage listing price

Regards
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