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871. Anonymous |   Link |  Bookmark | October 17, 2010 11:13:40 AM
FRIENDS,

I am in Bangalore.
I am reading about kostak and GMP on this board.
Now I want to sell these products.

Can someone explain how this works, PLEASE.
Now when I sell my application(kostak), the allotted shares will come to my DP account.How will they be transfered?Do i give a blank delivery instruction with the number of shares left blank, to be filled by the buyer after allotment??
How will money come to me on selling?Cash/cheque/post dated cheque/NEFT??

Assuming I want to sell in Grey market.
How does this work?
How and when do I give delivery of shares that I have sold based on the allotment that I get.
Again how does money and shares transfer/change hands?

Is there an office of any of these in Bangalore? please let me have their contact details.Specifically telephone numbers.

Another elementary question.I read in the newspapers that these are unregulated activities.
So how reliable and trustworthy are they?!

I know that if this is well established lot many will be interested in this window of opportunity in Bangalore and elsewhere too.

Kindly shed some light on how to go forward.
870. Anonymous |   Link |  Bookmark | October 17, 2010 11:13:30 AM
eps only 15 assuming a pe of 10 for static company it should list at 150 only.
869. Anonymous |   Link |  Bookmark | October 17, 2010 11:08:28 AM
As per Economictimes,
AHMEDABAD: Grey market premium for Coal India shares in Ahmedabad fell 11% to Rs 25 a piece from as high as Rs 28 on Thursday, following a slide in the secondary market. It was trading at a premium of Rs 32 on Tuesday.

The nation’s biggest initial public offer would be open between October 18 and 21 and will begin trading on November 4. The Sensex fell 1.8% on Friday.

The government plans to raise Rs 15,200 crore, selling 10% of the company, or 63.16 crore shares, in the Rs 225-245 price band. Coal India staff and retail investors will get a 5% discount to final price.

Although many recent offers have performed poorly, analysts expect Coa India to yield positive returns since it is priced at a discount to global peers. The BSE IPO index is down 5.6% in the last month, compared with the Sensex’s 3.2% gain.
868. Anonymous |   Link |  Bookmark | October 17, 2010 10:48:47 AM
there was a discount of 5% in NMDC. in market prices of NMDC was 355. issue price was rs. 300 after discount it was 285 for retailers. what happened after allotment share fell to 265.

In SJVNL ther was a discount of 5% but the share is stilling quoting below issue price.

these days even govt IPOS are not working. in this IPO we will get full and firm allotment and at the best 2 times in retail. we will get rs. 50000-100000 per application.

like NMDC, who will buy after allotment, it mat even crash to rs. 200. UDAYAN MUKHERJEE and Experts are foolish biased guys who recommended even SJVNL, NHPC etc. even qib of NHPC and SJVNL got heavily oversubscribed.

I am afraid that we may loose our principle capital in this IPO. we should apply we we can bear with rs. 98000 allotment per app.
867. Anonymous |   Link |  Bookmark | October 17, 2010 10:44:02 AM
SMALL INVESTORS BEWARE
BusinessDictionary.com defines the term 'Hard selling' as "Applying psychological pressure (by appealing to someone's fears, greed, or vanity) to persuade the prospect to make a quick purchase decision."

And 'hard selling' is the very term used by a recent Mint report to describe the modus operandi of investment bankers peddling IPOs.

The implications of this hard selling for the average lay investor can be misdirection at best, and large losses at worst. We've already tasted a sample of this during heydays of January 2008 when a large hyped up IPO ended up in tragedy for a large mass of investors. Many investors are still licking their wounds inflicted during that time.

An executive director from SEBI recently warned bankers against 'planting news articles' and 'making forward-looking statements' in advertisements by companies coming out with IPOs. SEBI, astute as it has proved to be, realises two important things more than anyone else. One, the future is highly vulnerable to the vagaries of the business cycle. That is the hard reality. Precise and confident predictions about the near term future of a company are nothing but displays of arrogance. And two, that the future is also especially vulnerable to vested interests turning and twisting it to suit their needs. An exceptionally rosy and bright future is not very difficult to paint. Especially in times when the general business climate is good.

Skepticism is the investor's best friend. And its doses need to be doubled in times like these. The coming week will start with a large and extremely hyped up IPO, and many more will probably follow. The last thing you want to do is take everything thrown at you at face value.
866. Anonymous |   Link |  Bookmark | October 17, 2010 10:31:50 AM
except address all other details like DOB, PAN, Name are same..
865. Ajayshare |   Link |  Bookmark | October 17, 2010 10:20:21 AM (200+ Posts)
If different : date of birth , address , pan card then you take a chance you will get allotment in both a/c.
864. Ajayshare |   Link |  Bookmark | October 17, 2010 10:18:36 AM (200+ Posts)
@872 : have you gave different date of birth or same in both a/c.
863. Anonymous |   Link |  Bookmark | October 17, 2010 10:17:41 AM
DEAR 831... EXCELLENT STUDY...YOU HAVE SAVE MY TIME...SHREEDHAR SJ ..GEM ..YOU MUST PAY ATTENTION ON THIS SURVEY...YAM BARODA
862. Anonymous |   Link |  Bookmark | October 17, 2010 10:11:07 AM
i have 2 different demat accounts with same pan no...however both accounts have different addresses..
can i apply for 2 applications?
861. Ajayshare |   Link |  Bookmark | October 17, 2010 10:08:52 AM (200+ Posts)

In this ipo two possibilities one : This could become rpower, ntpc,adani power.

Second possibility this could give good profit on listing and very handsome return on long gggg time hold.

I feel that this will list near 275/- and may be on the same day or on the next day this could touch 305/-.

I am applying good applications and hold two application for life time.
860. Anonymous |   Link |  Bookmark | October 17, 2010 9:58:36 AM
For analyst reports on coal india go to coalindiaipo(dot)blog spot(dot)com
859. Ajayshare |   Link |  Bookmark | October 17, 2010 9:56:26 AM (200+ Posts)
@ 864 : pan card and name is not matter main is details on the pan card. if details are same then you don't apply and if details are different then go.
858. Anonymous |   Link |  Bookmark | October 17, 2010 9:53:29 AM
AGAR YE IPO SUCCESS HUA TO OIL INDIA(HIT), AGAR FLOP HUA TO RPOWER JAISA(SUPER FLOP).
TO APANI AKAL-BUDDHI LAGAVO AUR GUESS SUCCESS/LOSS.
857. Ganesh smart investor |   Link |  Bookmark | October 17, 2010 9:53:00 AM
this IPO is a bang. unmatched quality and really at discount to all its peers in the world. this resembles India growth story in true terms. coming at 14p/e at FY11 figures, its really worth to subscribe. from very first day of listing, it is going to be traded in futures and within one month will be included in NIFTY and Sensex. so both ETF and long funds will be purchasing it from the market after listing. in my opinion, the target for 3 months is Rs. 300. within 2 years it will reach rs. 500-600. the company has start delivering on the net profit front and eps will reach Rs. 20-23 by end of FY 12.
856. Anonymous |   Link |  Bookmark | October 17, 2010 9:47:56 AM
If i have 1 name and two pan cards on the same name. Can i apply 2 Applications?
855. Ajayshare |   Link |  Bookmark | October 17, 2010 9:47:21 AM (200+ Posts)
Go for this share.
854. Anonymous |   Link |  Bookmark | October 17, 2010 9:39:36 AM
in the retail section of the ipo form it is mentioned that the maximum amount a retailer can apply is rs. 100000/
853. Anonymous |   Link |  Bookmark | October 17, 2010 9:06:33 AM
Dear 859, Anonymous

Please don't speak rubbish. Who gave you this news..? Coal India is such a big issue that, few operators in the market cannot manuplate the stock value to the extent you are mentioning.

You might have heard about Sea TV and mis interpreted that it is Coal India :-)
852. Bj |   Link |  Bookmark | October 17, 2010 8:54:24 AM
Folks from cnbc awaaz are predicting that qib category will get oversubscribed around 10 times and many new fii are putting in money,especially long only funds (pension funds).
Retail portion might get subscribed 2 times(not possible I think).