Coal India Limited IPO Message Board (Page 133)

Why are you not talking about PSU's like ONGC, MMTC, NMDC, SBI, Powergrid, PowerFinance etc which has given fantastic return to investors.

WE ALL REQUEST TO INDIAN PUBLIC TO BOYCOTT THE ISSUE AS BEING DONE BY THE EMPLOYEES. U ONLY THINK, WHO KNOW THE COMPANY WELL....FII'S OR EMPLOYEES. EVERBODY IS EMPLOYEE IN THE COMPANY, WHETHER HE IS CEO,MANAGER,SERVANT,LABOR,WORKER. BUT WHEN THE UPPER CLASS OF THE COMPANY IS NOT APPLYING,WHY SHOULD WE BURN HANDS.

U R RIGHT SIR, I HEARD HIM SAYING THE SAME WORDS, THAT MEANS, THESE PEOPLE KNOW ABT THE LISTING PRICE OF THE ISSUE AND THEY THEMSELVES ARE NOT APPLYING IN THE ISSUE AS U CAN SEE THE SUBSCRIPTION OF EMPLOYEES, JUST 0.04 TIMES. MAKING FOOL OF INDIAN PUBLIC

HAVE ANY BODY HEARD THE CEO OF COAL INDIA ON THE VERY FIRST DAY, WHEN THE ISSUE OPENED. THE STATEMENT WAS "I CANNOT SAY ABOUT THE LISTING GAINS BUT I CAN SAY THAT IT WILL DO WELL AFTER 5 YEARS, SO I REQUEST INVESTORS TO SUBSCRIBE THE ISSUE"

Bhai No way Nifty is going to fall to 4800. That is your wildest dream. Coal India will list at premium as there will be heavy buying on listing buy long term funds.

DO U REMEMBER THE R POWER IPO, NHPC IPO, SJVN IPO, NTPC FPO, SAIL IPO, EIL FPO. CAN ANY BODY TELL ME, HOW MUCH ANY OF THESE IPO'S AND FPO'S HAVE GIVEN RETURN TO U. APPROX :: - 25%(NEGATIVE), THEN R U PEOPLE FOOLS THAT U CANT UNDERSTAND THAT GOVERNMENT ALWAYS TAKES, NEVER GIVES.

THE MARKET IS REALLY TRYING TO GO DOWN FROM LAST 2 DAYS AND IT WILL GO DOWN WITH VERY GREAT SPEED ON MONDAY & TUESDAY WITH APPROXIMATE CORRECTION OF 20% AND THE NIFTY WILL COME AROUNT 4800. SO FRIENDS, IF THE COAL INDIA IPO LISTS, WHEN NIFTY IS 4800 - 4900, THEN WHAT DO U PEOPLE THINK, IT WILL DEFINATELY GIVE U ATLEAST A LOSS OF 25%. SO LOSING YOUR CAPITAL IS THE GAME. STRICTLY AVOID COAL INDIA IPO.

Can i apply for 425 shares @ 233/- per share?

hum to bhai coal india ke shares phele hi buy kar liye physical me Rs? 65 me: aur gujarat meneral development ke bi liye h yah be list hone wala h gjlba k ggbgh

hi everybody, apply for COAL INDIA - hni already subscribed 24 x QIB
it is going to the catalyst for further psu i.p.o .
u will get good returns short term 260 &long term target 290

Kus log jinka ipo market say kus layna dena nahi hi, jinko apnay baap ka name bhi pata nahi is company ki burai kar rahay hi.

QIB AND RETAIL CAN WITHDRAW THEIR APPLICATION IN COAL INDIA UPTO 25/10/1010 DUE TO ONE DISCLOSURE IN RHP UPTO 5 PM.THEY HAVE TO SUBMIT THEIR APPLICATION OF WITHDRAWAL TO THE REGISTRAR TO THE ISSUE.sAME PROCESS AS IN VATECH WABAG.

Hi SJ,
Let me be the first one to congratulate you for a superb analysis... I have a friend who is pitty good at analyzing the share market too informed us that CI is not going deliver what is being played out by the media and brokerage house.

If people memory serves correct (you can check the subscription figure of NHPC), QIB more than 29 HNI around 14 and Retail 3 times. Similar kind of subscription is expected for CI too.

When NHPC share came down by 20% none of these so called QIB & HNI where ready to buy the stock...

I am not saying that same would happen here but possibility is there...Only silver linning I could see here is that the 5% discount for retail which was not there in NHPC...

Happy investing...

Hi

Freinds and Boarders

Its been a long time I did not have communication with You in Group after DMC International Research Report.

I APPOLOGISE THAT MY GROUP COTACT IS NOT FUNCTIONING PROPERLY RIGHT NOW AND I HAVE SHORTAGE OF TIME TO CORRECT THAT

Although I miss Chittorgarh lemme clarify although you might be knowing that I did not Run Away anywhere

My first priority is My Sister's Wedding in November. Someone abused her as well. ALthough in real life i would have shot that ANonymus Guy who said that on Gunpoint in ENCOUNTER ARRANGED.

So after GPPL IPO I have been busy like anything. Although I keep in touch with people friends Chittorgarh Members

Well I have Given Pros and Cons of Coal India in brief that is enough for now at least to subscribe.

As I am busy and since people do not understand my analysis and my discussions with like minded guys like Gem Ipo Finder Shreedhar and Sharanpurji on Chittorgarh and hence misundertsandingly applied for some Ipos in which i had made disclosures that my clients have withdrawn.

Anyways I still maintain my targets on those IPOs and I also Maintain that even if some one misunderstood my analysis and views I take the blame for It.

Although I give Disclaimers after every Important Analysis but still You should feel free to Blame me even if you misunderstood my analysis as Indirectly or Directly I made you a financial loss in Short term at least.

Now Coming to Coal India

I have boycotted chittorgarh and will not post complete analysis of any view IPO on wether to Subscribe or Not Subscribe.

You can filter my posts and see the reason Why....!

If dont know how to filter Contact Chittorgarh team

Please Refer Post No 1473 ON COAL INDIA Blog . You can also view by filtering my messages

Those Pros and Cons I have highlighted there are the most Important Ones.

Although I have said on Chittorgarh Board that These are Just Pro and Cons and Not An Indication now I am saying to my mailing group That these are actually my view Wether to Subscribe or Not subscribe

Plz take Post No 1473 on Coal India blog as reference

And the conclusion to that view is:

Only Apply 1/3 rd of Total Planned For Coal India


Reason:-

1) Commodity Stocks should only be bought in downcycles and not In Up-cycles or Boom. In boom time these stocks are valued at 17-20 PE and in recessions they get Battered to 3-4 PE

2) Coal India is now way cheap

3) If the opportunity in a Commodity stock is so great that it is available at 2-3 times 3 year forward PE i.e.as per 2013 forward earnings it is available at 2-3 2013 Expected EPS. Then only there should be logic to apply in it. Coal India in 2013 will still be at 8 PE as of today at 245.


4) So fair price is 130 Only if we take above logic that is all negative news esp. for a cyclical commodity like Coal is discounted. Current Scenario Fair Price in Bull Market is 265. It may also go to

274 295 325. But i am not too much excited


5) Just yesterday China again incresed interest rates. Commodities are expected to hit slowdown in next recession coming in a neighbourhood near you Worldwide wherever you are by June 2011 to jan 2012. People can filter my posts and read that too on SKS microfinance Board and why I think So.




SO IN BRIEF LETS COME TO THE POINT STRAIGHTAWAY:

My strategy for Me and My clients is :

Scenario 1: Say You planned that you plan to have 1000 shares Of Coal India for Listing Gains.

After seeing tommorow's subscription till 1 PM OR 3:30 PM You found OUT WHAT SHOULD be expected subscription amount from my expert freinds like Gem IPO Shreedhar etc. and calculate approximately how many applications you need to put for to get 1000 shares.


1) Apply 1/3rd of Total Planned and leave it for listing Gains


2) The rest 2/3 ds should be applied For and then Sold in Grey. That way you get guaranteed profits of Grey market premium. of 34 per share as of todays date. Kostak is 5100 or so. I am busy in other work so no Idea. Just undertsad concept. Dont get confused on rates

So as per point 1 and 2 2/3 of 1000 i.e. 665 shares yields gaurenteed profits of 665*34= Rs. 22,610 profits.


Now 1/3d is applied for listing gains

Then even if Coal India lists at its support price of 190 that is 232 in round after discount for retail as issue price or 245 for HNIs if any here in my Mailing list

IT IS A LOSS OF 45 (Max) per share i.e. 45* 1/3 rd shares alloted left for listing gains i.e. 334*45= Rs. 15,030 loss.


So even if Coal India is listed at discount to say 190 or if you got greedy and then after 2-3 days Coal India went to 190

Then also you got profits of 22,610-15,030= Rs 7000+ profits even if price goest to Rs. 190 per share




Scenario 2 Now after doing this process you are left with 333 shares that you planned out of 1000 shares for Coal India to keep for Long term Portfolio



Only if you keep it till 2017 that is 7 Years will it yield multibagger returns as I have explained in Post No 1473 OF COAL INDIA in Chittorgarh. If you cant keep it for 7 years then plz dont keep it for Long term and sell it on listing or in medium term as per your comfort and situation of stock price or Market.


Entry points for the next 333 shares that is If you decide for long term Systematic Form is 190


Entry point for the last 333 shares is 120


If you dont get these price points of 190 and 120 plz just hold your investment at 245 or 232 depending in which category you applied

(which i dont think is impossible considering the macro economic dangers emerging out of developed world and Crash is expected in 2011-12)


THERE ARE OTHER COMMODITY OPPPORTUNITIES THAT WILL GROW MUCH FASTER IN TERMS OF CAGR IN EARNINGS THAT TOO FROM A SMALL BASE ARE:-


1) Jai Balaji Steel

2) Orrissa mineral and Development

3) Godawari Power and Ispat



Now these three stocks above are one of the few commodities i am still willing to hold in UPCYLCE as the underlying story in the next 3 years to 5 years far outwieghs the benefit cost associated with Coal India.


Small and Mid Caps if entered at the right time Yield more returns than Large Caps in a given time period. That is a well known fact amongst Old veterans here


Anyways that was the main logic for not going for full 1000 shares example AT A GO..!! JUST TO GUESS AND GAMBLE FOR LISTING GAINS


For Guidance ON Listing Gains with more clarity

Plz contact my other more experienced freinds on Chittorgarh. I have said that as per peak market valuations 265 is fair price and 275 298 and 319 can be expected

Even 400 can be achieved if more QIBs and Long only funds decide to enter in medium term. But that will be shortlived and market will discount it back to fair price

Look for these levels on Upside on listing day:--- 265 275 298 319

And on the downside:-- 253 245 221 190 175

Only enter at 190 as explained above not at other downside price points


Regards and Best of Luck with my strategy explained above on Coal India Tommorow and/or ANy risk you take even without following my advice on Coal india



MY report is 50 pages and Unfinished till now even. Since lack of time this post was more urgent than a 50 PAGE COAL REPORT THAT YOU MAY NOT BE ABLE TO INTERPRET AND FINSIH IN A MATTER OF ONE DAY TOMMOROW AND WOULD LIKE TO APPLY FIRST AFTER MY STRATEGY


Still if someone does'nt believe me that i will send them That report later he/she can individually contact me tommorow evening after 7 AM and then i will send them the report tommorow late night 3 AM


Setu (Sj)

Please let me know how can I sell my application at Kostak Rate for Coal India IPO. Whom do I need to contact ?
When will he pay me ? Before/After allotment ? How will be he sure that I will transfer him the share post the allotment ?

STRIKE..STRIKE..IF UNIONS OPPOSE UNIONS . THINK..SOME HECTIC ACTIVITY..

-Buy JM FINANCIAL today result TARGET 50, handsome profit in a day.
bye bye bye bye and sell in same day

buy SOUTH INDIAN BANK today result cmp 27.75 today target before @ afternooon TARGET 30, handsome profit in a day.
bye bye bye bye and sell in same day

Dear Sadiq (1543)

You may pls convey the message to CIL Employee, that If they are doing any Strike, QIB, Individuals, HNI & Other Corporates will buy the CIL itself.

Employees of Coal India planning to start indefinite strike on listing day of ipo