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166. revenge |   Link |  Bookmark | March 21, 2017 6:09:32 PM
Can anyone advice that is a gain on listing possible for CL educate? Not purchasing for long term.
166.1. Pokemongo |   Link |  Bookmark | March 21, 2017 6:36:11 PM
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due to excess liquidity in market it is possible 10%
165. mihirkm |   Link |  Bookmark | March 21, 2017 5:57:33 PM


CL Educate Limited
Last updated on
21 Mar 2017 | 05:00:00 PM
Sr.No.      Category      No.of shares offered / reserved      No. of shares bid for      No. of times of total meant for the category
1      Qualified Institutional Buyers (QIBs)      9,52,000      5,37,428      0.5645
1(a)      Foreign Institutional Investors (FIIs)      -      1,45,203      
1(b)      Domestic Financial Institutions(Banks/ Financial Institutions(FIs)/ Insurance Companies)      -      3,92,225      
1(c)      Mutual Funds      -      -      
1(D)      Others      -      -      
2      Non Institutional Investors      7,14,000      24,650      0.0345
2(a)      Corporates      -      -      
2(b)      Individuals (Other than RIIs)      -      24,650      
2(c)      Others      -      -      
3      Retail Individual Investors (RIIs)      16,66,000      4,06,696      0.2441
3(a)      Cut Off      -      3,59,919      
3(b)      Price Bids      -      46,777      
4      Employee Reserved      -      -      
4(a)      Employee (Cut off)      -      -      
4(b)      Employee (Price)      -      -      
5      Reservation PortionShareholder      -      -      
5(a)      RPS (Cut off)      -      -      
5(b)      RPS (Price)      -      -      
Total      33,32,000      9,68,774      0.2907
164. MUKESH SINGH |   Link |  Bookmark | March 21, 2017 5:41:50 PM
PLZ TELL ME, CL EDICATE LTD IPO MAIN APPLY KARNA HAI YA NAHI
163. ShreeramK |   Link |  Bookmark | March 21, 2017 5:35:07 PM
This company is in HUGE debt.Even in test prep the position is very weak.They are not even in top 3 in most segments they operate in.Mostly promoters will vanish after ipo.They are not keen on running this business.A BIG AVOID!!!
162. a.h.mithvani |   Link |  Bookmark | March 21, 2017 4:53:25 PM (200+ Posts)

CL Educate Limited
Last updated on
21 Mar 2017 | 04:41:14 PM
Sr.No.      Category      No.of shares offered / reserved      No. of shares bid for      No. of times of total meant for the category
1      Qualified Institutional Buyers (QIBs)      9,52,000      5,37,428      0.5645
1(a)      Foreign Institutional Investors (FIIs)      -      1,45,203      
1(b)      Domestic Financial Institutions(Banks/ Financial Institutions(FIs)/ Insurance Companies)      -      3,92,225      
1(c)      Mutual Funds      -      -      
1(D)      Others      -      -      
2      Non Institutional Investors      7,14,000      24,650      0.0345
2(a)      Corporates      -      -      
2(b)      Individuals (Other than RIIs)      -      24,650      
2(c)      Others      -      -      
3      Retail Individual Investors (RIIs)      16,66,000      3,99,272      0.2397
3(a)      Cut Off      -      3,52,553      
3(b)      Price Bids      -      46,719      
4      Employee Reserved      -      -      
4(a)      Employee (Cut off)      -      -      
4(b)      Employee (Price)      -      -      
5      Reservation PortionShareholder      -      -      
5(a)      RPS (Cut off)      -      -      
5(b)      RPS (Price)      -      -      
Total      33,32,000      9,61,350      0.2885
161. Karan |   Link |  Bookmark | March 21, 2017 4:51:43 PM (200+ Posts)
QIB suscription are good at the end of day 2..


If QIB suscription figure goes above 20x on last day...

...then i will apply for listing gain...
160. a.h.mithvani |   Link |  Bookmark | March 21, 2017 4:50:04 PM (200+ Posts)
Cummulative Bid and Quantity for CL Educate Limited
At BSE-NSE
Last updated on
Tuesday, March 21 , 2017 4:30:00 PM
Price ()      Quantity
500.00      25,35,093
501.00      25,31,410
502.00      25,29,844
Cut-off      5,11,676
159. Chem cho |   Link |  Bookmark | March 21, 2017 3:53:20 PM
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LAST IPO OF THIS YEAR ENDING MARCH 2017 LISTING ON 31/3/17

LAST DAY FIGURE OF QIB AND HNI WILL TEMPT YOU TO APPLY FOR LISTING GAINS
159.1. Jain vivek |   Link |  Bookmark | March 21, 2017 4:03:33 PM
During Harshad mehta days & even in late 90 s, many cos listed on CSE doubled on listing.
158. SachinGupta |   Link |  Bookmark | March 21, 2017 3:47:36 PM
Eagle eye,
Please share %wise subscription details
157. Pokemongo |   Link |  Bookmark | March 21, 2017 2:41:56 PM
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just a thought .. only for listing gains.. indigo and sheela foam were undersubscribed and gave stellar returns... when you look back now people will say it is strong management etc etc.. but sometime risk pays off. however i am not subscribing to this issue.
157.1. neeraj abcd |   Link |  Bookmark | March 21, 2017 3:26:56 PM
even infibeam falls in the same category.
156. Pokemongo |   Link |  Bookmark | March 21, 2017 2:38:14 PM
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buy treehouse instead of this!
156.1. ammubutter |   Link |  Bookmark | March 21, 2017 3:15:16 PM
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Brains........
156.2. Pokemongo |   Link |  Bookmark | March 21, 2017 6:38:36 PM
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yes double UC.. lets se tomorrow what happens
155. a.h.mithvani |   Link |  Bookmark | March 21, 2017 2:02:07 PM (200+ Posts)
Cummulative Bid and Quantity for CL Educate Limited
At BSE-NSE
Last updated on
Tuesday, March 21 , 2017 1:30:00 PM
Price ()      Quantity
500.00      20,52,852
501.00      20,50,155
502.00      20,48,821
Cut-off      3,48,493
155.1. Shrichand K Khilwani |   Link |  Bookmark | March 21, 2017 4:18:14 PM
I Wont to Grey Market About CL Educate...??
154. IPO aspirant. |   Link |  Bookmark | March 21, 2017 12:57:10 PM
Why Lauras going down?? Hold or sale??
154.2. Pokemongo |   Link |  Bookmark | March 21, 2017 6:40:10 PM
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good future.. strong company.. after march they will receive some approvals for additional sales.
154.3. Chem cho |   Link |  Bookmark | March 21, 2017 8:31:15 PM
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I AM HOLDING ipo allotment of 3 lots ,

safe bet as on today low of 505-508 may be touched as per graph , stop loss 495
153. Septa |   Link |  Bookmark | March 21, 2017 12:25:31 PM (4000+ Posts, 4600+ Likes)
https://www.bloombergquint.com/markets/2017/03/20/career-launchers-parent-cl-educate-takes-its-market-test

I AM NOT APPLYING THIS IPO I DO NOT FIND VAULE AT THESE PRICE. LISTING GAIN IS POSSIBLE ON SPECULATION AND MARKT PRESENT CONDITION BUT FUNDAMENTAL IT IS AVOID. THE CHANCE OF LOSS IS MORE THEN EXPECTED GAIN

INVESTING ALL ABOUT INVESTING WISELY THEN BLINDLY SO AVOID

All You Need To Know About CL Educate’s IPO

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CL Educate Ltd., parent of coaching services provider Career Launcher, launched its initial public offering (IPO) on March 20 to raise Rs 239 crore at a valuation of Rs 711 crore. It’s the year’s fourth IPO after BSE Ltd., Music Broadcast Ltd. and Avenue Supermarts Ltd. Priced at Rs 500-502 apiece, the IPO closes on March 22. Here’s a snapshot of the offer and the company.

How Is The Offer Structured?

CL Educate Ltd. plans to issue 2.18 million fresh shares to raise Rs 109 crore, while the promoters and other investors will sell around 2.58 million shares worth around Rs 130 crore at the upper end of the price band.

Why Is It Raising Funds?

The company will use money raised from the fresh issuance to meet working capital requirement, pare debt and fund acquisitions.


What’s In It For Shareholders?

Ten promoters and 29 other shareholders will sell 18.22 percent of the post-issue equity share capital. Investor Gaja Trustee is looking to sell shares at a premium of 49 percent, Edelweiss Finance & Investments at 20 percent and GPE (India) at a 17 percent premium. While Edelweiss Finance will exit the company, Gaja will retain 1.8 percent and GPE 6.7 percent.


What Is The Company’s Business?

CL Educate started in 1996 by offering management test-preparation courses and later diversified into coaching for medical, engineering and civil services, among others, under its Career Launcher brand. The company also runs K-12 (kindergarten to 12th standard) Indus World schools, offers vocational training and provides publishing services under GK Publications. The firm also offers recruitment, training, and event management services to corporate houses through its unit Kestone.

What’s Its Revenue Source?

The company generates most of its revenue from test preparation classes and recruitment and training services provided to corporate houses.


CL Educate will sell its K-12 schools, which contribute 2 percent to the top line, to a third party for Rs 85 crore. It is looking to strengthen its test preparation business by acquiring ETEN, a division of coaching services provider IndiaCan Education Pvt. Ltd., for Rs 6 crore.

Who Are Its Rivals?

Coaching is a largely informal and unregulated segment of the education sector. CL Educate competes with unlisted players like TIME, JK Shah Classes and IMS that have pan-India presence. It’s listed competitors include MT Educare and Career Point.


At the upper end of the Rs 500-502 price band, CL Educate’s earnings per share (EPS) after issuing new shares will stand at Rs 15.3 for financial year 2015-16 and price-earnings ratio at 32.8 times, according to BloombergQuint’s calculations. CL Educate is expected to trade at a higher forward price-to-earnings ratio than its peers.


Promoters’ Shareholding

The shareholding of two of its co-founders Satya Narayanan R and Gautam Puri, who own nearly 43 percent, will come down to a little over 33 percent after the offer. The overall promoter holding will close to 65 percent.


Brokerage Verdict

Angel Broking, Indian broking firm, has a ‘neutral’ rating on the back of its expensive valuations.

Compared to its peers the margins and ROE profile of CLEL does not appear to be attractive. The company’s business is working capital intensive which coupled with expensive valuations may not provide a significant upside to the investor.
153.1. LoneRanger |   Link |  Bookmark | March 21, 2017 1:54:08 PM (200+ Posts, 200+ Likes)
Dear Septa Sir,

thanks for your honest and valuable feedback. Much appreciated.
152. DJL |   Link |  Bookmark | March 21, 2017 11:37:36 AM
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152.1. ran |   Link |  Bookmark | March 21, 2017 12:33:33 PM
no buyer
152.2. Pokemongo |   Link |  Bookmark | March 21, 2017 2:39:06 PM
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cancel your application
151. Ram Guatum |   Link |  Bookmark | March 21, 2017 10:44:08 AM
CL Educate IPO Hits D-Street – Analysts say IPO Valuation is very high

CL educate is one of the leading player in the education provider space, but recently it witnessed slightly higher debtors. Hence, the current valuation leaves limited upside and recommend that investors avoid the issue.
The company’s business is working capital-intensive, which coupled with expensive valuations may not provide significant upside to the investor. So the brokerage has a neutral rating on the issue.
Under the union budget 2017-18, the allocation to the education sector comprised Rs. 46, 356 crore for school education and Rs. 33, 330 crore for higher education.
Also Read: Important facts about CL Educate Ltd. IPO – Updates

In total, the Union Budget 2017-18 announced Rs. 79, 686 crore to the education sector, up 10.1 per cent over Rs. 72, 394 crore in the previous year.

150. COMMONMAN |   Link |  Bookmark | March 21, 2017 10:14:59 AM
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To Buy CL ED @502 , Wouldnt Be Dmart Safe Bet to buy @ 525-530 Level...,
150.1. ayushgoel |   Link |  Bookmark | March 21, 2017 2:02:25 PM
Its not about price but pe ratio, dmart pe ratio has crossed 60, better to wait for some time and then invest.
That''s what I am doing
150.2. Pokemongo |   Link |  Bookmark | March 21, 2017 6:39:06 PM
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at 640 dmart PE is 77
149. Chem cho |   Link |  Bookmark | March 21, 2017 8:30:02 AM
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Apply in this IPO for listing gains ,

HNI and QIB are going to subscribe to this issue , retailers will follow ,
148. investorrr |   Link |  Bookmark | March 20, 2017 10:18:20 PM
Eagleeye mam..please guide weather to apply or not..pls pls pls guide..
147. Chirag dudhat |   Link |  Bookmark | March 20, 2017 10:02:44 PM
Investment in cl educate ltd?