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41. papon |   Link |  Bookmark | August 8, 2021 10:10:42 PM
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Again they may delist at Re 1. You never know with this kind of management.
41.1. arunARUN |   Link |  Bookmark | August 8, 2021 11:33:55 PM
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Good you know the future already. Why dont you tell value of some shares 3 months from now?
Choose any share as you can predict the future
40. Monster Zero |   Link |  Bookmark | August 7, 2021 3:57:26 PM
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Revenue and profits @march 2020...yeah okay
@march 2021...chaand pe hai Apun.. 🚀


40.4. Demo |   Link |  Bookmark | August 8, 2021 1:11:41 PM
A scammer company...
40.5. DHARMENDRA SHARMA |   Link |  Bookmark | August 8, 2021 8:38:21 PM
Top Contributor Top Contributor (500+ Posts, 100+ Likes)
Dear Monster Zero ,
I Sharing Result Date,Tommorow Result Of Clean Science.
I Expecting Your View In This Regard If Any.
Thank You.
39. SANDY INVESTOR |   Link |  Bookmark | August 8, 2021 6:04:04 PM
I will keep distance from this IPO
38. MS ASSOCIATE |   Link |  Bookmark | August 8, 2021 5:17:10 PM
छोड़ो कल की बातें, कल की बात पुरानी
नए दौर में लिखेंगे, मिल कर नई कहानी
हम हिंदुस्तानी, हम हिंदुस्तानी
37. JAIN MAHABAL |   Link |  Bookmark | August 8, 2021 4:21:42 PM
Chemplast :In Delisting,company announced floor price at Rs. 4.51 but final Exit price is atRs15/share with Face value 1,current ipo has face value 5 so we should assume delisting happened at Rs. 75 Decade back in 2012
36. JAIN MAHABAL |   Link |  Bookmark | August 8, 2021 12:56:50 PM
Chemplast Sanmar IPO Got delisted in 2012 at RS 15 & now coming out with IPO at Rs.541
35. S.A.R |   Link |  Bookmark | August 8, 2021 11:19:29 AM
Chemplast Sanmar Got delisted in 2012 at RS 15 & now coming out with IPO at Rs.541
So who all are going to apply?
35.1. arunARUN |   Link |  Bookmark | August 8, 2021 12:51:24 PM
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Will take call on 3rd day
34. 🔥 IPO CALLING 🔥 |   Link |  Bookmark | August 7, 2021 11:54:28 PM
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*IPO Scam* : Chemplast Sanmar was delisted nearly a decade from the stock exchanges. It was delisted from BSE, NSE and MSE with effect from June 25, 2012, June 18, 2012 and June 25, 2012, respectively.

Company delisted a decade ago at Rs 5/- is now coming with IPO at Rs 540/- !! 😅

Be careful🚨
34.1. arunARUN |   Link |  Bookmark | August 8, 2021 11:21:15 AM
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Be factually correct. Got delisted at Rs 15 for face value 1. Current face value is 5 which means it delisted at Rs 75 (15X5)
See index movement from 2012 to 2021. Over the index performance is more due to liking for specialty chemical companies
33. sonal patel |   Link |  Bookmark | August 8, 2021 12:09:04 AM
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Gmp of chemplast is 62 - 65 rs...
32. bhawani agarwal |   Link |  Bookmark | August 7, 2021 11:10:07 PM
What is cutoff time for AU amal finance bank?
31. Eagleye |   Link |  Bookmark | August 7, 2021 7:52:13 PM
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ChemPlast IPO
GMP 68 +/- 2
30. Sunny Sen |   Link |  Bookmark | August 7, 2021 5:13:07 PM
As per recent trends and SEBI approved IPOs, net concluded , as per views,

So many discussions page and from different IPOs pages, I am concluded that,

1) Markets bulls on sentiments.
2) Where a delisted company has also GMP and an established company has no GMP.

Sabka Bhala...aapka bhala....

3) Finally apply with own precaution. No others means.

Enjoy with day.

29. NeoLongus |   Link |  Bookmark | August 7, 2021 12:07:45 PM
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Chemplast Sanmar - For those who care beyond the GMP (based on FY21 consolidated financials & post-money (top end of the price band)):

Tax Adj. RoCE (%): 66.7%
RoE (%): -117.3%

EV / Revenue (X): 2.3x
EV / EBITDA (X): 7.9x
P / E (X): 20.9x

Primary of INR 13 bn + OFS of INR 25.5 bn with FY21 C&CE of INR 6,513 mn on books and healthy operating cash generation. Net worth is negative due to significant changes in Associates & JV''s but even in prior years RoE is weak even though RoCE has been strong. The primary raise will help improve RoE significantly going forward. Valuation multiples capture the "non-specialty" nature of the Company, IMO.
28. Sunaralpha |   Link |  Bookmark | August 5, 2021 7:52:21 PM
Don''t even touch the company with barge pole. Their Egyptian venture is loss making from day one. There is no change in management. N sankar is still the chairman and Major shareholder. All their blue chip companies are in private non listed companies. They conducted AGM in a god foresaken place to avoid tough questions... buyers beware
28.2. XCapitalMarkets |   Link |  Bookmark | August 6, 2021 3:04:32 PM
Not that I have any special love for this Company, but just to be factually correct as per RHP: the Egypt business is not a part of Chemplast Sanmar Limited. That is housed in another group company they have called TCI Sanmar.

This Company has the specialty paste PVC, suspension PVC, custom manufacturing (Spec chem business) and the side products (peroxide, soda, chloromethane)
28.3. Sunaralpha |   Link |  Bookmark | August 7, 2021 9:08:02 AM
Promoter group of Chemplast sanmar had given USD 1 billion guarantee for debts of TCI sanmar...
27. Cautious ipo |   Link |  Bookmark | August 6, 2021 9:43:28 PM
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Specialist chemical nam ki loot he ...loot sake to loot ....!!!!
26. arunARUN |   Link |  Bookmark | August 6, 2021 9:00:05 PM
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Major reason for many IPO bunching in August is the fact that foreign investors are not supposed to rely on accounts data older than 135 days. Which from 31st March comes out to 12 th August.
It is more true for anchors. Who have to given internal rationale for buying. They can not by law invest in companies whose financials are older than 135 days and show reliance on those financial numbers
So next rush we will see around Nov 1st and 2nd week
25. Common Man 🤠 |   Link |  Bookmark | August 4, 2021 11:43:50 AM
Delisted in 2011, Coming again to market in 2021.
25.3. Common Man 🤠 |   Link |  Bookmark | August 6, 2021 10:12:28 AM
@arunARUN, here is the link:-
https://www.thehindu.com/business/companies/chemplast-sanmar-to-be-delisted/article2872490.ece
25.4. arunARUN |   Link |  Bookmark | August 6, 2021 8:58:52 PM
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@comman man
I had seen the link. This is also mentioned in RHP so what is new information?
24. Cwa |   Link |  Bookmark | August 5, 2021 1:16:11 AM
@ Ranga
This is Siva(Cwa) a bit new on this Forum.... I read your comment regarding Chemplast IPO with this comment of yours.

" So, people who did not give at Rs. 15/- in 2012.. after 9 years.. or rather a decade, they get a good valuation.
DLF is also a cheat.. they delisted and forced shareholders to sell.. then relisted at 520 Rs. or so.
Investors should have few things in their mind.
1. Get away from fraudulent Promoters.
2. Do not touch Promoters who are close to Politicians. "

I have a similar issue with Polaris Company. I needed some help to understand the issue at hand. Can you guide me ?

Regards
Cwa
24.7. jstm |   Link |  Bookmark | August 6, 2021 6:58:27 PM (1300+ Posts, 3200+ Likes)
@ arun , do you know the meaning of delisting ?
If yes then you should also know who got the fair ( or unfair ) return from 75 to 530/541.
Insiders or investors ?
Still it isn''t listed as of now. If it lists in discount somewhere below 500 then who will earn ?
Insiders or investors ?
You are posting exactly the contrary view of listing in delisting comments.

24.8. arunARUN |   Link |  Bookmark | August 6, 2021 8:54:20 PM
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@jstm Decision to hold shares of companies going for delisting cuts both ways. I had lost a large amount (90000) by not accepting delisting offer of Binani Cement as company failed to survive. At least by accepting delisting offer i could have saved that
For your information there are still some holders who did not sell at delisting and they were entitled to offer their shares for offer for sales (as happened in BSE limited shares). Every one gets a prorate chance to sell under OFS.
Equity investment is risk and buyer beware is Mantra. Could you have predicted in 2012 that this company will come up with IPO at this price and market will be around 54000 points?
23. Simsa |   Link |  Bookmark | August 6, 2021 7:14:43 PM
Business Line News Nov 16, 2017
Stocks
Chemplast Sanmar delisting opens on April 12 at Rs 4.51/share
23.1. sabkaview |   Link |  Bookmark | August 6, 2021 8:36:03 PM
oluntarily delisted at 15 per share face value 1 in JUNE 2012( RBB was in April 2012) at 15 per share on a floor price of 4.51 per share .... i was a participant in that d listing where market price was around 7 per share with 5% circuit , and it was a pleasant very pleasant surprise to read the PA of company in Financial express about promoters having accepted the discovered price of 15 per share .
22. ranviraaj |   Link |  Bookmark | August 5, 2021 8:23:05 PM
they have negative networth.....
22.7. XCapitalMarkets |   Link |  Bookmark | August 6, 2021 4:01:31 PM
@Sunaralpha - 1) Using 2016 estimates for evaluating a 2021 situation may not be the best idea; 2) There is a difference in PVC and Specialty paste PVC resin, since CRISIL says the resin market size was 143 kilo tons per annum (KTPA) in 2020.

There are only 2 producers in India - Chemplast Sanmar (66 KTPA) and Finolex (22 KTPA), which is a total of 88 KTPA capacity. In FY20, domestic production of specialty paste PVC stood at 78 kilo tons, of which Chemplast produced >80%, as I understand it.

All this is from RHP (Pg 105 - 110); CRISIL talks in detail about specialty paste PVC. Happy to be corrected on this.
22.8. Sunaralpha |   Link |  Bookmark | August 6, 2021 4:29:35 PM
Checked out various sites to find out any price difference between resin pvc and so called standard pvc. There is absolutely no difference..i wonder how they classify this as speciality chemical category.