Chemplast delisted in 2012 at just Rs 15, Now same company coming with ipo price 541 mean Promoter buy back all share at 15 in 2012 now same share they will give public 30x more price Rs.541...What a fraud bull shit.
This Cartarde is not IPO but offer for sales, All 2998 crore is offer for sales & promoter take money home.
Promoter u make 29 crore profit/year & using bull market sentiment for sell 40% stake. If company is good why u dumping 40% stake.
If u take ipo for rising money for company expansion that''''s ok but this is not ipo but offer for sales for buying luxurious car, home for yourself.
SEBI look at & remove IPO tag, This is offer for sales & rising money only for promoter own use & misguide Investor.
Even All 4 IPO over valued ignore all 4 ipo, They will use Market bull sentiment.
Nuvoco Nirma group company, Nirma delisted in 2011 at price 260 now it''s group company coming with ipo.
Nirma group was always controversial . it has a listed company Shree rama multitech which too was taken over by group under highly controversial circumstances and when open offer triggered Nirma refused to comply with SEBI law....the matter went till Apex coourt where SEBI won .
Big AVOID. Promoters selling 46% shares in one go is a big red flagg.
Going to give this IPO a miss :)
78. Shaolin| Link| Bookmark|
August 10, 2021 1:02:21 PM
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Delisted at Rs 12 (Floor price 4.5) in 2012, Promoter holding rose to 100% after delisting. Debt-Equity was 6:1. Now coming with IPO at Rs 541, reducing promoter holding from 100% to 54%. Debt-Equity now is 1.6 Now also company has debt of 3200 crores on a market cap of abt 7500 crores.
DELISTED at 15 on a floor price of 4.51 .....RBB was during 12 to 18 April 2012 .....RBB was for 19 crore 99 lakh 24227 shares and offered shares were 13 crore 64 lakh 77026 ....book was built at rs 15 where 4 crore 40 lakh 16885 were offered mostly by LIC after 3 pm on 18 April ....
ON a price multiple comparison of top 8 chemical players with price being in MAY 2012 .....now Chemplast is asking around 7 times at 540 with highest being NAVIN FLUORINE and SRF traded at 44 times increase in market price during the period and lowest being Gujarat alkalies at 4 times increase .next lowest is finolex industries with 15 times .
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August 10, 2021 12:55:50 PM
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Chemplast is duping Investors by comparing with peers as Navin Fluorine, SRF, PI, etc. It is just a Plastic Resin company, not a Pure Speciality Chemical company.
Pre Issue Share Holding 100% Post Issue Share Holding 54.99% which mean company do not have any NON PROMOTER shareholder now from listing days in 2012 ....it also mean all those who did not participate in RBB have EITHER surrendered in one year exit offer period AND /OR all were holding less than 4000 shares and were given cash credit when face value was increased to 4000 per share in November 2013 .
I was a participants to that RBB in April 2012 and earn good money when it delisted at 15 .....market price was around 7 with 5% circuit limit and share was easily available rather on next day of RBB close when it was clear that discovered price is 15 , the share went on lower circuit as nobody expected promoters to pay 15 .
Promoters are fraudsters and they behaved high-handedly with the retailers. Apply at your own risk.
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August 10, 2021 10:22:50 AM
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In 60 70s promoters were not charmed about listing companies. Many companies were basically listed to gain income tax rate difference between private and public companies. Then on top there was wealth tax which use to dampen prices on 31st March Actually first real boost in market was in 1993 post CCI guidelines. But most of the IPOs at that time was of companies which are better known as fly by night Better IPOs came post 2012 era
Sebi allow kyu karti he aisi chor company ke ipo ke liye
70.2. arunARUN| Link| Bookmark|
August 5, 2021 8:37:11 PM
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Wide brush. Company delisted for Rs 15 per share for face value of Rs 1. Today face value is 5 so it makes it equal to 75. See the index movement from 2012 to 2021 and fancy for specialty chemical companies and then give comments backed by fact
arun, already gave my comments with fact backed by link and everybody knows mkt movement from 2012 to 2021 and fancy for sp. chem co. & will continue further.There is nothing new but it doesn''t mean we should invest blindly in any company.
& what is this ?
Co. delisted @ 15 rs. with FV of 1. Are you saying that it had given 15x return ?
You mean to say co. was so generous that it had issued @ FV of 1 without any premium ?
Do you know what was the issue price ? ? ? Certainly can''t be 1 rupee.
Only newbie entrant can post like this . Your 400 posts is not justified with such kind of post.
Plz post only back by facts or any link.
However splitting or reverse splitting doesn''t make more sense in terms of % return.Generally companies go for splitting instead of reverse splitting.Generally mkt welcomes splitting.
70.4. arunARUN| Link| Bookmark|
August 6, 2021 8:56:51 PM
IPO Guru (2000+ Posts, 1700+ Likes)
Please read my post clearly. Face value of Rs. 1 when consolidated to Rs. 5 means that exit price of 15 translates to exit price of 75. Growth needs to be seen from 75. I have never said that company grew 15 times. Please read and reread
Arun, if we assume every stock grew line with index which grew from 2012 to 2021, then Suzlon and RCOM would have not died...there is nothing in the DRHP or in the company website to compare between 2012 to 2021... company is using the money to repay NCD issued to promoter entity...in a way it is also to be treated as OFS since other debt also exist for the company
So after this blah blah black sheep quarrel, Application will be decided on basis of day 3 subscription. And investment strategies on basis of listing gains and closing price on listing day. Good debate.
When huge loss making company can list at astronomical price and there is no objection then how you are finding fault with this company which is profit making for at least last three years and profit is growing. While investing in a company what is important is current position and future growth and not about the financial position ten years ago
Till today in the history of delisting , these promoters remain the promoters with ever highest delisting price paid in percentage ,compare to floor price ......232.59% !
.DELISTED as face value 1 in June 2012......November 2013 face value increased to 4000 per share (those holding less than 4000 shares were given cash credit on extinguishing shares) JUNE 2015 face value was reduced from 4000 to 10 per share , March 2021 face value was again reduced from 10 to 5 ...August 2021 IPO !