I have one question in my mind that in any of sme ipo for firm allotment we need to apply lots total applied by hni. Like 256 as in case of chaman ipo.
How we can apply as hni this much lots? While applying as hni amount blocked will be 256x 1 application price?
Droneacharya SME IPO MAI RII AND NII category mai ye SME IPO Itna jyada overs subscribe hua tha ki milna hi mukil tha .Fir Ranveer kapoor ne 20 Lack and Amir khan se 25 lack k share kaise allotment kra liye . kis category se or kaise ? Any Senior Mamber please Your views please
Chittorgarh Team Please Clarify the Allotment process of SME IPO how the HNI portion get Allotment With Example Please Help and Clear this Issue
168.1. Smile⏏️| Link| Bookmark|
January 8, 2023 9:46:20 PM
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Go through previous ipo Click on boa U will get it
167. SSingh| Link| Bookmark|
January 7, 2023 6:45:39 PM
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HEM seems to bring in genuine businesses in SME IPO with reasonable valuations. Most of the past listings are multi-baggers !
167.1. snipperRaj| Link| Bookmark|
January 7, 2023 7:54:17 PM
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Chamanlal will be atleast 2x in short run of 1 month Hem Lm - post listing support , Market maker, sme fund buy. Decent valuations Business growth DD - apply rating Absence of QIBs
167.2. SSingh| Link| Bookmark|
January 9, 2023 5:10:06 AM
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Spot on! 👍👍
166. No trade| Link| Bookmark|
January 7, 2023 5:10:09 PM
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@Chintoo :- Yes you can withdraw your application. Only retail investor is allowed to withdraw. HNI applications can't be withdrawn. See there will be some option to edit the application, you can delete/withdraw by opting this edit option.
162.1. Shy| Link| Bookmark|
January 7, 2023 2:50:48 PM
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No, it can't be , cant sell in pre open, as far as I know you have to call and inform and they will sell behalf of you, and it can be time consuming and risky
Based on cureent subscription assuming no rejections..... Retail chance: 1/159 2 Lot HNI chance: 1/128
All the best...
159.2. Trueinfo| Link| Bookmark|
January 6, 2023 4:08:34 PM
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For 2 lots HNI, the ratio is effectively 1/128, still better than retail.
159.3. GJ 😀| Link| Bookmark|
January 7, 2023 2:44:25 AM
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Instead of applying 2 lots HNI you could have gone with 2 retail applications of 1-1 lot each in that case probability for you in retail would be=> 2*(1/159) => 1/80 approx that is better than HNI but it is applicable only if you 2 Demat accounts with you
otherwise what you did (2 lots HNI) was the best-case scenario and what @Trueinfo and @Justalearner explained is correct
159.4. GJ 😀| Link| Bookmark|
January 7, 2023 2:49:06 AM
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Theoretically, All calculations/outcomes are correct based on the probability
Practically, A. in a random lottery system, you may get 0 lot (no allotment), 1 lot, or 2 lots in retail B. same with HNI also, no allotment or max 1 lot allotment for sure, 2 lots allotment is not possible in HNI considering 256x
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January 7, 2023 8:31:58 AM
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@JAI JAI.... I have also done the same thing. Bu I think there is no need to regret because 2 lots in HNI still has better chance (1/125) as compared to Retail (1/159). Moreover, linkintime never allots sgares to me in retail category, so I have tried in HNI. Let us hope for the best.👍
@ IPO SHARE TRUE....LINKINTIME NEVER ALLOTS TO RETAIL...SAME HERE EXPERIENCED MANY TIMES. THEN TO WHOM IT ALLOTS.....TATS A BIG QUESTION....?? MIGHT BE THEY DISTRIBUTE AMONG THEMSELVES...!!!
159.7. ipo share| Link| Bookmark|
January 7, 2023 9:39:09 AM
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@ANKUPATEL Since huge amount of benefits (in thousand of crores) is involved in IPO listings, there is urgent need for SEBI (in main board ipos) and concerned Exchanges (NSE/BSE) (in sme ipos) to put a system of Technical Audit in place to check and ensure that a proper allotment is done without any tempering in computer programming (for allotment to particular pan nos. or rejection of particular pan nos). Till a proper system is devised, never ever think of unbiased allotment process, particularly when Registrars like Linkintime and Kfintech are involved in allotment process. This is my personal observation based on my own experience. Other members may or may no agree with my views.
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January 6, 2023 8:15:59 PM
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Anyone who is having minor account, please let me know:- (1) Whether any bank provides online account opening facility with Internet banking and providing facility to apply in MINOR'S name & PAN number (for applying ASBA). Please also clarify whether Guardian's Account is also necessary in the same bank or not. (2) Whether online account opening facility is provided by any broker FOR MINOR, where I can trade in SME IPOs, particularly in preopen.
I WANT TO KNOW WHETHER PAN NUMBER AND NAME OF MINOR WILL BE DISPLAYED IN ABOVE ACCOUNTS SO THAT IT IS TREATED AS A SEPARATE APPLICATION IN IPOS.
I m using equitas asba facility for minor account they have just started in last month for minor... U have to fill the form for beneficiary addition and within 48 hrs they will add the name of minor with his/her pan number...
For demate I am using jainam account and I must say till date no problem for using minor account... Ucan apply sme and sell the same in preopen...
158.2. ipo share| Link| Bookmark|
January 6, 2023 11:06:47 PM
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@Vedansh Thank you very much for your kind response. From your reply, what I understand is that it is necessary for guardian to have his account first and then minor can be added.
158.3. UdanKhatola🛸| Link| Bookmark|
January 7, 2023 12:55:12 AM
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Have been using hdfc + prostocks for about 1.5 plus years. No issue till date...
Yes it is small finance Bank but growth of bank is exceptional.... Second thing it gives 7% saving rate interest of balance above 10 lakh... 5.5 percentage from 100001 to 999999.... And 3.5% from 1 to 99999....
So it would be beneficial even if you not get allotment because your balance in bank will earn up to 7%
U can apply via asba net banking Or use Edelweiss portal for upi application.
157.2. Mr. Singh| Link| Bookmark|
January 6, 2023 6:13:34 PM
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@Monster Zero. In this forum many people are posting technical issue and losses when they sell SME share in upstox in last 1-2 months. Do you have any update on that?
Well..even i bought rcf and got delivery after the end of T+2 date...in upstox But when i bought rcf in groww... I was able to sell it on the next day..btst.. Also settlement of funds from selling and trade profits is delayed. Groww has a better realtime settlement including the charges for buying and selling.
So upstox has a delayed settlement issue but, i primarily use upstox accounts to apply for IPOs and groww for trading and investment.
Only if groww jumps in with SMEs and applying SMEs... we'll have a real winner.
Also..upstox can't differentiate between intraday and delivery. While groww automatically converts the transaction into to suitable category my holding period.
Last point... upstox charges 18.5 Rs for demat selling charges per equity while groww only takes 15.93 Rs.
When I opened 24 accounts with upstox..demat charges were showed as 15.93 Rs..but when did they reach 18.5 Rs..god knows
Also.. upstox app doesn't show your transaction and orders at simple clicks...u need to take a walk through it's web portal and find the transactions after t+2 days. That sucks.
157.4. Mr. Singh| Link| Bookmark|
January 6, 2023 6:59:38 PM
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@Monster zero. If you scroll in ducol page many people reported issue in selling SME share and trade was converted to short sell and they lost money. They are following up with sebi. Do you know about the issue and how that can be avoided?
Well .. check the details before placing an order Try to place limit orders rather than market sell. If there's any wrong doing from uptox's side then definitely go to sebi.. I read the post and the day high for that sme was 35.5 and share was sold st 35.25...which is inline with execution but SMEs trade on very small volume and a market order would have messed up things. It is just assumption.
I would be very happy to know the outcome of complaint to sebi.
157.6. Mr. Singh| Link| Bookmark|
January 6, 2023 7:43:08 PM
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@Monster Zero. Thanks. I was bit worried but thanks for your advice. I will use limit order. However seems some people may have faced issue even with limit order as they sold on preopen and I think preopen allow limit order only. Let me check with them.
157.7. Mr. Singh| Link| Bookmark|
January 6, 2023 10:09:38 PM
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@Monster Zero from one of the member reply it seems e-dis failed and he did not do post sell authorisation as he did not get any communication on same.
@Monster Zero sorry to ask on open platform but how to u manage 24 accounts and how did u operate. Whether u tell them to bid or u hv access to asba facility of theirs
157.10. Smile⏏️| Link| Bookmark|
January 7, 2023 1:53:35 PM
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@RP.... Majority members handle multiple accounts. By law all handling their own accounts. 😂😂😂
@pritig...groww used to allow selling but has stopped it completely. So better to go with upstox or zerodha.
@Rpatil......4 sbi bank accounts are sufficient to operate 24 demats ( 5asba +1 UPI) I control all the transactions for these accounts, but from last 9 months haven't used more than 12 accounts due to new rules. Capital shortage is another reason.
@i For IPO I think it is related to ASBA that you are referring. Just went thru internet for suggestions. Try these 1) Contact SBI Branch manager where you are having account 2) Customer care 3) If your account is on lien due to ASBA and you want the lien to be removed, you have to send a withdrawal request with the issue to the registrar of the IPO. Have you tried 3rd option? Contact the respective IPO registrar
Branch Manager & CC Telling All are Ongoing Lien Amount
Contact Register Twice Both Times They Just Passed Issue With Bank And Bank Telling Same Story
154.3. ipo share| Link| Bookmark|
January 6, 2023 7:58:22 PM
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@i For IPO Send 2 separate emails:- 1. Send one email to the Registrar of the IPO. You can send in reply form to the mail received by you from the Registrar reg. Allotment Advice cum Refund Intimation. Also mention your PAN No. and Application No.
2. Send separate mail to SBI, attaching mail of Registrar for non allotment. Send original mail to your SBI Branch viz. with copies to (a) customercare@sbi.co.in (b) local GM of SBI (c) gm.customer@sbi.co.in (d) chairman@sbi.co.in Write full details like Bank A/c No., IPO Name, Application No., Mode of Application (ASBA or UPI) and Date of Blocking of Amount etc.
I hope, if you write in a proper abd complete manner, your problem will be sorted out very soon. No need to run to Brair any other Officer. Just send email. All the best 👍
@i For IPO More than 3 months is a long time. I don't know whether following are the right ways. Just giving suggestions 1) Try thru local police station 2) Get the proofs regarding your issue and if possible get the response in written format from registrar and bank officials. Lodge the complaint with the consumer court (self or with help from advocate)
It can be easily released by branch,after verifying that those application are rejected and there is no allotment. 2-Send a mail to there UPI department or ask the branch to send the same. 3-Ask them to modify it in halm and make the lien to zero.(easiest way to unblock you amount)
154.13. ipo share| Link| Bookmark|
January 7, 2023 6:45:10 PM
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@i For IPO Congratulations for getting your amount unblocked. In fact, it is an issue between Registrar of IPO and your Bank. That is why, you got response only from those two. I request you not to wait for too long if your amount is not unblocked on refund date or its next day. Just remember to send email as you did now. All the best for future allotments so that you don't need unblocking of ASBA amounts. 😄👍🙏
154.15. Smile⏏️| Link| Bookmark|
January 9, 2023 11:48:43 AM
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@i for ipo n other... Surprising that u waited for such period. If issue arise in future, 1. just wait for one day and write mail to registar. 2. Quote their mail saying we hve instructed bank..... and forward to bank. 3. After few hours call care center of bank. 4. You will receive fruit ful result in quick duration.