News flows coming regarding order of 32000 crores for Mazagaon dock in next week can change the sentiment. Who knows...........keep u r finger crossed and hope for much better listing......
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June 4, 2023 9:11:20 PM
IPO Guru (2000+ Posts, 1200+ Likes)
It will list negative Even @ AT PAR no buyer seller active.
With the booming defence sector orders and huge order by Govt in Navy sector it appears this will also gain some strength in coming days before Listing. All defence stocks commanding PE of above 50 an d this Co. at PE of 36 seems reasonable. At least this co is in some real business model from last 11 yrs rather than co like sahana merely 3yrs old and demanding price of 135.
Dear KPCT, Salasar techno please share your views, can buy at current levels, multibagger. Thanks
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June 2, 2023 11:19:40 PM
Top Contributor (600+ Posts, 200+ Likes)
Salasar highest ever subscribed main board IPO, I used to play in it.5G roll out was the hope. It gives return very slowly. once fall,take time to recover. Even after coloborating with ATC American tower co. it is stucked at same lavel. Bonus , stock splits etc.are out dated tacticks. Mobile Tower election is saturated business, Railway electrification towers is upcoming branch. From my side stay away.
Aaj ki tarikh ne sabse jyada pasand Archean Chem hai.
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June 2, 2023 11:25:44 PM
Top Contributor (600+ Posts, 200+ Likes)
Erection *
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June 7, 2023 8:54:55 PM
Top Contributor (600+ Posts, 200+ Likes)
Nil Allotment....Can't make out.....refund in both the applications.....
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June 2, 2023 7:10:50 PM
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June 2, 2023 7:44:36 PM
IPO Guru (1900+ Posts, 1700+ Likes)
@MAMU, I still maintain, it can be good for long term and can be a portfolio stock. I had also mentioned that big size is a negative because it could lead to selling pressure on listing day. Frankly, I expected that NII subscription should pick up on last day and should reach about 5-6×, which didn't happen. I had all the intention to apply, but changed mind at last minute seeing lower than expected NII subscription. I may buy a lot after listing after the price stabilizes. Let's see. Market gives lot of surprises.
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June 2, 2023 4:29:55 PM
IPO Guru (1400+ Posts, 800+ Likes)
Applied 2 small HNIs to get 2 confirmed lots.. Risk hai.. But lena to hai hee.. 😀
@ SSingh Sir kya kehte ho.....laga de ek retail,pata nahin par lag raha ki yeh profit de jayega.... defence story Aaj Mazagaon ko 32K crores ke order ki news hei Zee business pe
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June 2, 2023 4:47:57 PM
IPO Guru (1400+ Posts, 800+ Likes)
Kapilji, LM accha hota to ye Badhiya subscribe hota.. But subscribe kaisa bhi ho, listing acchi hogi because company is real and works on ground and that too in defence sector.. @GJ bhai retail me confirmed nahi milega.. 1.5 times hai..
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June 2, 2023 4:58:04 PM
IPO Guru (2000+ Posts, 1200+ Likes)
@SSingh After rejection, it will come down around 1.2 x almost like confirmlets see what happened later.
@MAMU This is general rule for MainBoard and SMEs for RETAIL category, nothing new.
@arvindarvind Nope, this is about RETAIL category only, Lottery only happens if oversubsribed
@SSingh Yeah, let's hope for positive on listing 😜
87.10. MAMU| Link| Bookmark|
June 2, 2023 5:25:51 PM
IPO Guru (2000+ Posts, 1200+ Likes)
@GJ 😀 Assume Retailers subscribed more than 1x application wise than how you can say allotment will be confirm?
87.11. lokes| Link| Bookmark|
June 2, 2023 5:28:47 PM
IPO Guru (4400+ Posts, 5100+ Likes)
@GJ: your assumption is wrong here , above 1X final subscription, allottment is via lottery in retail....if its 1.99X then only 50% people will be allotted.....its very obvious and basic thing....if its 1.6times final subscription in retail, then 100 will be allotted from 160 people....
My bad, I stand corrected. Yes, it is safe to assume 100% allotment when Application/Pan wise, it is less than 1x in Retail, but not when it crosses 1x. Lokes' example correctly explains the scenarios.
My apologies again for creating consusion here. Best of luck for allotment and listing.
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June 2, 2023 6:21:18 PM
IPO Guru (1200+ Posts, 700+ Likes)
Finally applied one retail. Last allotment was Silicon Rental despite applied from two account in HNI on all good ones. Ready to see some downside on listing but hopeful of some profit in 3-6 months. Breaking the dry run is main intention here..
Yes, some (almost half) of retailers, who only applied one lot including me, would not get allotment.Chance of firm allotment is less here unless total no application decreases drastically due to mass rejection.
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June 2, 2023 5:36:33 PM
IPO Guru (2600+ Posts, 3700+ Likes)
Almost Confirm allotment to both categories. HNI & RII. Accident type listing possible. Deep Discount listing below 150. I may be wrong. Current GMP 0
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June 2, 2023 6:06:07 PM
IPO Guru (2600+ Posts, 3700+ Likes)
@MAMU , In HNI those who have applied for 3 lots or 4 lots or more shall be allotted 1 lot each and rest 1 lot will be allotted to those who have applied for 2 lots and RII. I am assuming from the past low subscribed IPO allotments. These all will create selling pressure to aryaman in the end :)
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June 2, 2023 6:26:16 PM
IPO Guru (2000+ Posts, 1200+ Likes)
In low subscription like in cff, If someone applied 10 lots in HNI then how many lots will get?
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June 2, 2023 6:40:09 PM
IPO Guru (2600+ Posts, 3700+ Likes)
@MAMU , I am assuming 2-3 lots . Since 1st day it was assumed that fake applications were made in HNI category to attract riis & hnis. Fake applications can be made by applying multiple applications from multiple banks having same PAN which are liable to be rejected on technical ground. On 1st day itself HNI category was over subscribed and in total 4 days it is hardly 3x.
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June 2, 2023 5:51:46 PM
IPO Guru (1400+ Posts, 1400+ Likes)
Applied 5 retail applications as it's main business in Defense sector. Although it's a costly one & have taken a risk. But Defense sector is a area where Govt is spending a lot and all other companies are doing the best. For better understanding Some companies are given below. After studying it I have taken a little risk, and Let's see where calculations works.
1. Krishna Defence Current MP : 198.75 PE : 42.9
2. Paras defence Current MP : 539 PE : 58.5 3. Data Patterns Current MP : 1701 PE : 76.8 4. MTAR Current MP : 1891 PE : 55.9 5. Bharat Electronics Ltd Current MP : 113.30 PE : 28 6. Centum Electronics Current MP : 1109 PE : 215
@abc xyz CG already did this job of comparison for us
check this https://www.chittorgarh.com/ipo-recommendation/cff-fluid-control-ipo/1427/#analysisTable
83. PLAZA| Link| Bookmark|
June 2, 2023 5:43:21 PM
IPO Guru (2400+ Posts, 1300+ Likes)
NOT APPLIED AS ISSUE MANAGED BY PURCHASE OF RETAIL APPLICATION TO FULFILL REQUIREMENT . GOD KNOWS AT THE TIME OFLISTING ONE HAS TO PAY INCOME TAX AS PEFR APPLICABLE IF ANY ALSO IF LISTED HANDSOMELY AS ALL STOCK WITH THE OPERATOR.
Applied one retail.....let see WT happens Allottee in proventus also so anxiety is there. Recently by grace of almighty exited from indong tea 3 lots in profit after seeing loss of 1.8 lakhs....
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June 2, 2023 3:13:21 PM
IPO Guru (4400+ Posts, 5100+ Likes)
company looks ok to me from financials and other perspective, but main thing is issue size is too big here and valuations are on higher side. So i will apply here 1-2 retail application via upi and will decide later around 4.30pm
Applied 1 lot retail. Downwards it's earth, upwards it's sky. No listing gain may be there and a chance to buy also at listing. It's a long term bet. Although I have low patience, this is going to really test it.
Ok sort of company. But for me, pricing is a let down. Very expensive. Moreover Lead manager's historical performance is pathetic. Positive listing probable, but valuation at present doesn't seem sustainable. Merely relying on the stamp of being in defence sector isn't convincing enough. Had they priced this below 100 would hv surely applied. But for this price, i don't feel comfortable. If this fires on listing, it will be solely due to operators, not on fundamentals.... Not applying.
Agree fully, Price P/E valuation comfort isn't there specially seeing the high Debt levels. Also current majority of workshare is around maintenance testing & support services which could be not as high margin as product/export oriented defense manufacturing players like Data Patterns, MTAR etc. Yes they state they will venture more towards R&D going forward but that's a future looking statement tough to invest only on that but if they so it could possibly turnout to be a gem, lets see...
@Justalearner , I think LM performance report is slightly incorrect and misleading in this regard as it doesn’t take split and bonus issues into consideration when checking on performance in comparison to the issue price. For reference, both Rhetan TMT and Modis, by the same LM, have given multibagger returns in less than a year, and in the performance report they are showing as negative returns. Just thought of sharing my findings.. 🙏