To remove confusion of allotment, I have studied the new SEBI provisions and the conclusion is following - yes not all will get allotment and those who applied for max 195000/- will also not get more than 20 shares. Look at it: Retail portion reserved - 25.20 lac Min Lot size - 20 shares Max allottees - 126000 No of retail applications 3,10,000 (as per my info) Ratio will be 2.46
Now, those who applied at lowest slab of 20, suppose there are 275000 applications so 126/310*275 = 111775 out of 275000 will get allotment i.e. in the ratio of 1:2.46 and others will not get any shares.
I hope Gem ipo finder (if he is the original Gem) will agree/comment with his views. I also hope by now he has completed his CA. I used to track his posts here one year back and his analysis was rock on im most cases. But I withdrew from Chittorgarh after Oct''11 due to glut in market and failure of allotment due to overcrowding and lack of quality issues. CARE has prompted me to come back but here also unlikely to get much allotment. If one has 8-10 DP accounts only then one can hope to get good allotment.
thanx to IPOFINDER for cautioning in time about the allotment process
even i have not gone through the new rules before reading his message but thanfully i applied in 15 a/cs only 1 lot but after seeing retail subcption @ 6 times i thought i made mistake but then i read the rules and found ipofinder was correct in cautioning but not 100% correct in analysing the rules
For retail category, only approx. 126K applicants will receive min. 20 no. of shares. If the no. of applications is more than 126K, than shares will be allotted on lucky draw basis (subject to min. allotment of 20 shares).
CARE IPO,We are only applying to this IPOs, base on the performance of the secondery mkt.Normally mkt will crash after big IPO. ( as per history). My prediction is after Bharti IPO closes, mkt will crash by 100-150 on Nifty basis. In that mood CARE , PCJ would not give handsome return.
lucky investor getting 20 shares,,,current premium is 182rs...pcj premium 7-8 rs its remaining between 4 to 8 rs till listing date..bharti premium is 4-5 rs...apply small lot in bharti u definately getting rss..
Big Mistake by investors who have a fund and applied in small lot considering new allottment system.. Dont repeate the same in PCJ IPo.. closing today.. still have a chance if fund is lying.. Dont utilise that fund in Bharati .. Care and upto somewhat PCJ will prove like another COAL..
THere is any chance of lot size broken? to give allotment to maximum applicant 1000 got 20 share from 2620 applicant or 2000 got 10 share from 2620 applicant
If the total applicant in retail is approx 450000, then for full application 28 out of 100 applicant will get 46/47 shares. One can calculate their allotment as 20 + (Total share applied - 20) X 0.11048 But for each lot only 28 lucky applicants out of 100 applicants will get shares as per above formula.
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December 11, 2012 10:05:44 PM
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YES gemipofinder people have made mistake in not applying for rs 2 lakhs in care ipo i had indirectly hinted they are likey to get 10 shares for minimum application for 20 shares . but any way allotment is sure
SORRY CHEMCHO, I DID NOT GET YOU, HOW IT CAN BE POSIBLE THAT BID LOT CHANGE FROM 20 TO 10. ACCORDING TO SEBI RULE PAGE7 COLUM 7 AS PER ALLOTMENT PROCEDURE, THE ALLOTMENT TO RETAIL INDIVIDUAL INVESTORS SHALL NOT BE LESS THAN THE MINIMUM BID LOT, SUBJECT TO AVAILABILITY OF SHARES, AND THE REMAINING AVAILABLE SHARES, IF ANY, SHALL BE ALLOTED ON A PROPORTIONATE BASIS. SO I THINK ITS BEST TO APPLY MINIMUM BID LOT IF WE THINK ISSUE CAN OVERSBSCRIBE MANY TIMES, ITS ONLY FRUITFULL IF ISSUE UNDERSUBSCRIBE ACCORDING TO NO OF APPLICANT YOUR VIEWS PLEASE
as per smrtinvstmt total retail applicant is 3300000 7 no of sh offered in retail quota is 25.20 lacs so every third applicant will get allotment of 20 shares whether he applied for 20 or 260 sh.
ipofinder, is correct in this type of oversubscription situations in saying that chances of getting allotment is same irrespective of bid
Is there any way to figure out the total number of applications under retail segment apart from Basis of Allotment? Becathat will hold the key to arrive at approx. number of shares to be allotted at various lot levels.