Considering the IPO size and ongoing GMP… it will go over the roof
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January 25, 2024 7:41:56 PM
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My calculation of SH quota subscritpion,
Due to the fact that bids exceeding 200k are not permitted in SH, the calculation is based on the assumption that a valid application falls below 200k.
As of December, there were around 110k shareholders, so I assume there will be an additional 40k shareholders until Rhp is filled.
So we may assume 150k shareholders are eligible to apply under Sh quota.
Out of 150k eligible shareholders 30%(45000 applicants) may bid to max app amount which comes 190k So 45000*189540(13 lots with cut off)=855 cr
50% may apply for 1 lot So 75000*14580=110 cr
Rest of 20% application money can be averaged with 5 lots So 30000*72900=220 cr
So 855cr+110cr+220cr=1185 Reserved portion for sh quota is 30 cr so 1185/30=40x
Consequently, we may encounter mild to heavy subscriptions that span from 40 to 60 times.
So applicant with 13 lots may have roughly 1/4 chance for 1 lot allotment.
Nice calculation but do you think all eligible shareholder will apply. For Tata technologies total eligible share holder 45 lacs and application received around 12 lacs that is 1/4. With such a hype ipo of tata and advertising only 1/4 applied. I am expecting around 50000 application in shareholder quota that is around 30 to 35%. Let see
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January 25, 2024 8:05:20 PM
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@papon I concur with your statement that there will not be 100% applications from eligible shareholders in any situation, but I attempted to determine the highest sub figure that might exist. :)
Good analysis, but you're assuming that everyone will apply, which won't be case. It has always been observed, there are a lot of technical rejections in shareholder quota because people who are not eligible apply and who are eligible don't apply.
Out of 1.5Lakh, 70k will apply max. (in case of aeroflex only 5k valid app out of 90k, in tata tech 11Lakh/37Lakh shareholders)
Lets take worst case everyone applies for 14lots. 14*70k = 980k lots available lots = 23k
Worst case oversubscription: 42x That being said, i'm 100 percent sure, lot of people will apply more than 2lakh and while applying subscription data will look bloated
Can anyone tell me how you guys got information that RHP was filled on 23 because RHP is not showing on Sebi website and Chittorgarh , you guys was very quick please suggest some wepsite.
Kaise pata chalata h ki RHP filing date kab ki h ?
Why to wait, if got information about sh category than buy immediately. I bought BLS around 1 month back at Rs 254 and sold today at 390. You can only guess and buy the share on some assumption
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January 25, 2024 9:56:27 PM
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💥 This is a must apply with FF for Bumper listing gain and even good for short-term, long-term gain post listing.
Posting my understanding on the SH quota based on the RHP.
You can apply for more than 2 lakhs in SH quota but then you cannot apply in sHNI/bHNI. In case your SH quota application is less than 2 lakhs you can apply in sHNI/bHNI.
So - unlike Tata Tech where 2 lakhs worth application got allotments. In this one HNI's with much bigger applications would bag most of the allotments.
Again summarizing
sH App (Upto 2 lakhs) + Retail App -> Valid sh App (Above 2 lakhs) + Retail App -> Valid sh App (Upto 2 lakhs) + HNI App -> Valid sh App (Above 2 lakhs) + HNI App -> INVALID
@Palka , Difficult to tell at this point. Although the thing is one will get 2 lakhs worth of allotment in normal bHNI (if allotted). While in sH category the allotment may also be less than 2 lakhs depending on oversubscription.
I think we need to wait till the last day to determine which has better chances.
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January 25, 2024 3:32:22 PM
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The Bid must be for a minimum of [●] Equity Shares and in multiples of [●] Equity Shares thereafter so as to ensure that the Bid Amount payable by the BLS International Shareholder does not exceed ₹200,000 (net of BLS International Shareholder Discount, if any). Allotment in the BLS International Shareholder Reservation Portion will be as detailed in the section “Issue Structure” beginning on page 409.
Maximum Bid Such number of Equity Shares and in multiples of [●] Equity Shares not exceeding the size of the BLS International Shareholders Reservation Portion, subject to applicable limits.
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January 25, 2024 4:19:18 PM
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Please guide weather we have applied cutoff price in above 2 lakh or entered price manually
I agree with you sir, but why they have written like this : To clarify BLS Int. SH Bidding in the BLS Int. SH Reservation portion above ₹200000 can bid in the net issue for up to ₹200000 (NET OF SHAREHOLDERS DISCOUNT). What I mean to say is why they have written "net of shareholders discount" along with bid in the net issue? It is obvious that even if a shareholder apply in net issue, he/she won't get any discount. May be I am not explaining it very well, but it is because BLS itself didn't explain it very well in their RHP.
@Anuwak , share holder will get discount of Rs 7 per share. Net of shareholder discount means you can bid upto maximum 14 lots instead of normally maximum 13 lots due to discount. 108 shares * Rs 128* 14 lots= 193536
Sir , I sent mail to unistone capital regarding this SH bid understanding.
They sent FAQ pdf document. In that clearly mentioned that SH quota valid bid only under 2,00,000. Kindly you all can check by mailing to mb@unistonecapital.com
RHP had few contradictory statements leading to confusion. As, confirmed by other members max application amount in sH category will be 2 lakh. Please, ignore my original message. Apologies if my message created any confusion (I had simply put up my inference from the RHP).
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January 25, 2024 10:41:20 AM
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Off topic
We can expect share holder quota
1.india first life insurance .....Bank of Baroda 2. Ashirvad micro finance...mana puram 3. Sbi mutual fund ........SBI 4.NTPC Green energy ...NTPC 5.HDB financial ........HDTV BANK 6.HDFC Ergo............HDFC BANK 7.HDFC Credits......HDFC BANK 8.Kotak AMC........Kotak mahendra bank 9.PNB Met life ......PNB 10.Bajaj energy ...bajaj hindustan sugars 11.Reliance retail .Reliance 12.Icici AMC.......ICICI BANK 13.AXIS AMC....AXIs BANK 14.Jeevansathi.com....Info Edge
Not confirm but we can expect above as a shareholder category when those come to IPO.
Shareholder in tata technologies was 45 lacs and here 1.5 lacs. Shareholder quota was 300 crore in tata and here 30 crore. So I think allotment chance will be better in bls in comparison to tata tech
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January 25, 2024 7:04:14 PM
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Shareholders quota can get 70x sub , what's your Guess 🤔
The quota allocated for SH in the BLS Sewa IPO is akin to a mirage. The issue size itself is relatively small, totaling only 310 crores. Additionally, a mere 10% of the total issue is reserved for SH, amounting to a modest 31 crores. Although QIB and institutional investors are not eligible to apply in the SH category, HNIs, corporate bodies, and family offices are eligible. Given this scenario, securing a share from the SH category seems like a challenging endeavor, even for HNIs. Unlike TATA Tech, BLS fails to ensure a cap on SH application limits, and there is a risk of family offices dominating the allotment, potentially surpassing the limits. The chances of allotment in the SH category are anticipated to be lower than in an average SME IPO. Hence, it is advisable to make an informed decision considering these factors.
As i told earlier this IPO will be blockbuster before even starting of the GMP (105%). e-mudhra is a peer to this company and looking at growth prospects and budget speculations . this was deemed to be a blockbuster listing.. This is a strong BUY candidate for short term with a trailing STOP loss , if it can sustain the budget week volatility then good move speculated in the first quarter of FY25.
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January 25, 2024 5:21:29 PM
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Below is mail of Tata technologies eligible shareholders and they clearly mentioned up to 2,00,000 so BLS services also will send mail for confirmation like this we should wait for it
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January 26, 2024 9:52:25 AM
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No one recived mail from BLS international. I have sent mail to them asking for same they should sent prior 3 working days and only 1 working day left to open IPO.
If anyone have aerofelx industries mail from SAT industry then send that screenshot here. RHP data must be correct as it's most important documents and everyone must follow it , so there should be no limit as happened in aerofelx industries. Let's see...
Can anybody suggest any broker who deals in gray market in Lucknow? I spoke to my broker upstox they dont deal in gray market. I am ready to open account with that broker. Thank you