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30. RAJE HEMANT |   Link |  Bookmark | June 12, 2011 12:50:46 PM
I HAD DONE THHE SUBCRIBTION OF CALLOPTIONPUTOPTION FOR MID CAP STOCKS PAID RS 2000 FOR ONE MONTH JUNEB 2011 THEY PROVIDED ONLY 4 TIPS IN ONE MONTH AND LOST RS 3000 AND RS 2000 FOR ADVICE ALL THE TIPS CLOSED AT THE STOP LOSS AND HAD TO COVER MY POSITION
THIS SERVICE IS NOT RECOMDED IT DOES DONOT GIVE REPLY ON EMAIL ONCE THE MONEY IS CREDITED IT IS BYE BYE ONLY SMS AT TO LOSS IN MONTH OF JUNE
29. NAMAN MEHROTRA |   Link |  Bookmark | June 10, 2011 11:24:11 PM
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28. vas nat |   Link |  Bookmark | June 10, 2011 2:10:53 PM (200+ Posts)
IFCI bonds - 120 crores subscribed till now. May be kept open upto 450 crores. Source-Unconfirmed news.
27. soyab madakiya madakiya |   Link |  Bookmark | June 9, 2011 5:11:52 PM
Dear all,
What is your call on this IPO please Infore that Company Prize and Letes GMP
26. GreenHorn |   Link |  Bookmark | June 9, 2011 1:18:07 PM
L&T Finance to launch Rs 1750cr IPO in June: Sources

L&T Finance Holdings, an arm of engineering and construction company Larsen & Toubro, will launch its Rs 1,750 crore initial public offer (IPO) in June, reports CNBC-TV18 quoting DowJones sources. The company will meet local investors next week ahead of the planned IPO.
The issue consists of Rs 50 crore worth of equity shares reserved for employees and Rs 125 crore for L&T shareholders.
25. Ipobazar |   Link |  Bookmark | June 9, 2011 12:39:07 PM
Hey Investor,
what is the price band and lot size of birla pacefic ipo? can anyone knows?
24. v p |   Link |  Bookmark | June 9, 2011 10:49:15 AM
Please check Birla Cotsyn. issue price 14, on listing days close on 9.20 with average trade on rs. 11.25 now in range of .50 to .60 paisa.
not short term investor nor long term investor get his his money back. who earn money in this IPO are: lead manager and diroctors.

few similarities:

1) Address of both companies are same.
2) Registrar are same

I think result would be the same.
23. vas nat |   Link |  Bookmark | June 8, 2011 8:44:41 PM (200+ Posts)
IFCI Bonds - RBI increasing 25 basis points of Key Rates will wipe out 2% of the expected premium.
22. vas nat |   Link |  Bookmark | June 8, 2011 10:56:01 AM (200+ Posts)
IFCI Bonds - Wait for June 16 RBI policy review. Increase in key rates would make these bonds less attractive.
21. m.l.a. |   Link |  Bookmark | June 8, 2011 8:12:37 AM
dear ravi what is your call on this issue allthe previous issues of yash birla ara in loss not a single one is in green out of twenty listed companies, why should we go for such issue, any comment.
20. Chem cho |   Link |  Bookmark | June 7, 2011 10:53:58 AM
IPO Guru IPO Guru (2600+ Posts, 2700+ Likes)
9% INTEREST IS FOR SENIOR CITIZENS FROM GOVT TABLE BUT NOW I FIND NEW INDIA COOPERATIVE BANK WHICH IS ALSO AN SCHEDULE BANK IS OFFERING 10.5% INTEREST FOR 5 YEARS AND THAT TO ON MONTHLY BASIC FOR ANY AGE IE BELOW 60YEARS ALSO .NOW AT 10.75% INTEREST FOR 10 OR 15 YEARS IS AN IFCI BONDS IS GOOD BET TO PUT RS 1 TO 2 LAKHS BUT ALWAYS REMEMBER IT IS TRADED IN BSE AND NOT NSE
BSE VOLUMES ARE LOW AS COMPARED TO NSE YOU WILL GET THE MONEY BUT IN EMERGENCY THE RATE MAY BE LOW OF THE DAY
19. bangalore king |   Link |  Bookmark | June 6, 2011 11:45:49 PM (400 Posts)
The government plans to raise about Rs. 250 crore from the initial public offer ( IPO) of the construction firm NBCC, for which it will appoint two merchant bankers by June end.

At present, government owns 100% in the National Building Construction Corporation (NBCC) and has floated request for proposal inviting bids from investment bankers.

The disinvestment of NBCC has already got in-principle approval and the finance ministry, in consultation with Urban Development Ministry, is currently in the process of preparing a Cabinet note for seeking final approval, sources in the finance ministry said.

The government plans to disinvest 10% of its stake in the company.

"We are expecting to mop up somewhere between Rs. 200-250 crore. The merchant bankers would put in their bids by 10 June and from there we would finalise two as the managers for the NBCC issue," they added.

NBCC is likely to be the third PSU to hit the market in the current fiscal as part of the government's disinvestment plan through which it expects to raise Rs. 40,000 crore.
18. vas nat |   Link |  Bookmark | June 6, 2011 11:12:50 PM (200+ Posts)
IFCI Bonds: Tier II Bonds Review
June 5, 2011
Source : Onemint

This is another post from the Suggest a Topic page, and today we’re going to review the recently launched IFCI Tier II Bonds. When I first heard of them I wondered if they had released another tranche of infrastructure bonds for this year, but that’s not the case.

These IFCI bonds don’t offer any tax benefits, and are like the SBI bonds that were issued earlier this year. They have a relatively longer time frame for maturity; will be offered in Demat form, and will trade on BSE thereafter.

I wasn’t able to download the prospectus of the IFCI bonds, so I won’t be able to get into as much detail as I went into with other bond reviews, and will focus on the information available on their website, with some thoughts on them.

The first thing that caught my eye was how high the bar was set on investing in these bonds. The minimum investment is set at Rs. 1 lakh, and that’s a fairly big amount for a retail investor to commit on just one bond issue. I don’t know why they would want to keep the limit so high, and I can only think that they don’t want to have a very large number of investors and feel confident that they will be able to raise funds even with such a high minimum investment amount.

This is a subordinated Tier II unsecured debt issue, and from what I understand these bondholders are the lowest in creditor hierarchy and will be wiped out before all other creditors of the company. This will of course only come in play in dire circumstances, but since there are banks that offer interest rates close to the ones offered by this IFCI bond issue, I don’t see any merit in allocating more than say 5% of your capital in just this issue.

Here are some other important details about the IFCI bond issue.
Open and Close Date of the IFCI Bond Issue
The bond issue opened on June 1 2011, and will close on the July 15 2011.
Minimum Investment and Denomination

The minimum investment needed is Rs. 1 lacs, and one bond is worth Rs. 10,000. Since the bonds will list on BSE shortly after they’re issued, you will be able to buy one bond for Rs. 10,000 from BSE. However, it is quite likely that the bonds trade at a premium at that time, so you will probably have to pay a premium while buying these bonds from BSE.

Interest Rates and Series of IFCI Tier II Bonds

You have 4 options when it comes to these bonds – you can choose the 10 year or the 15 year maturity period, and then within that you can decide whether you want the interest paid to you annually or you want it to accumulate and get it all at the end.

The two series have call options from IFCI – the 10 year one can be called at the end of 7 years, and the 15 year one can be called at the end of 10 years.

What this translates into is that if you chose to take the 10 year bond, and at the end of 7 years IFCI decided that they want to redeem the bonds – they will repay you the money, and not have to wait 3 more years for maturity. Same thing with the 15 year bond.

Since the bonds are traded on the stock exchange – you can sell them at any time at market prices, but there’s no guarantee what the market price will be.

Listing Gains on the IFCI Bond

Some of you will be curious as to what price will the bond list on, and if there’s any opportunity to make listing gains, and make a fast buck on them.

I have absolutely no idea how they’re going to list, and the only input I can offer here is that the SBI issue listed at about a 5% premium. (I have fairly strong views on this topic which can be found here)
How does this issue compare to fixed deposits?

As far as I know – there’s no bank that allows you to lock on to a 10.75% interest rate for 15 years, or even a 10.50% for 10 years.

Karur Vysya is currently giving 10.00% for 1 – 2 years deposit, but as the time frame goes up the interest rate goes down. There must be a few other banks around that range, but I don’t think anyone is promising you this interest rate for such a long period. On the other hand, IFCI’s unsecured Tier II debt, is riskier than a bank fixed deposit.

Plus, the minimum amount will take it out of reach of a lot of retail investors, and this is probably just the beginning of many more bond issues from other companies as well.
Conclusion

Ultimately, you have to see if this fits into your asset allocation and doesn’t expose you too much to just this one asset. Also, think if it makes sense for you to wait for it to list, and then buy it from the secondary market. That way you can invest a smaller amount, but may have to a pay a premium for it.

As always, your comments are welcome, and much appreciated!
17. vas nat |   Link |  Bookmark | June 6, 2011 1:59:10 PM (200+ Posts)
Archit Shah - Listing in BSE is given in the Information Memorandum. So should happen. If you have any other info pl share.
16. ARCHIT SHAH |   Link |  Bookmark | June 6, 2011 1:55:03 PM
vas nat

listing sure?ifci
15. vas nat |   Link |  Bookmark | June 4, 2011 10:37:57 PM (200+ Posts)
Invest Or Not Invest in IFCI Tier-2 Subordinated Bond Issue:

Though Bonds are of unsecured natures,IFCI ,,infrastructure finance company carries sound fundamentals.Also issue offers options of anuual interest payment as well cumulative options to choose from.

IFCI has posted a profit of 7455.30 Million for year ending march 2011 after provision of tax as compared to profit of 6930 Million for year ended march 2010.

In near term it is difficult for any banks to offer much better interest rate than that of 10.75% as lending rates are also currently high and there is not much scope to increases in lending rates.Already Banks may face pressure on net interest margin after saving rates increased to 4% p.a.

So after keeping view of it,one can invest in this issue.
14. vas nat |   Link |  Bookmark | June 4, 2011 5:03:09 PM (200+ Posts)
IFCI Information Memorandum is given below. Anyone is welcome to add more info on this listing.

LISTI NG
The Bonds are proposed to be listed on the Bombay Stock Exchange(BSE). IFCI has applied for inprinciple approval from the BSE for listing of Tier II Bonds. IFCI shall make an application to the BSE to list the Bonds to be issued and allotted under this Information Memorandum and complete all the formalities relating to listing of the Bonds within reasonable time. In connection with listing of Bonds with BSE, IFCI hereby undertakes that:
• It shall comply with conditions of listing of Bonds as may be specified in the Listing Agreement with BSE.
• Rating obtained by IFCI shall be periodically reviewed by the credit rating agency and any revision in the rating shall be promptly disclosed by IFCI to BSE.
• Any change in rating shall be promptly disseminated to the holder(s) of the Bonds in such manner as BSE may determine from time to time.
• The Company, the Trustees and BSE shall disseminate all information and reports on Bonds including compliance reports filed by the company and the Trustees regarding the Bonds to the holder(s) of Bonds and the general public by placing them on their websites.
13. ARCHIT SHAH |   Link |  Bookmark | June 4, 2011 4:27:41 PM
IFCI BOND LISTING ON BSE IS NOT SURE.

aS I GOT THE NEWS THAT IT MAY BE LISTED MAY BE NOT.

aLSO COMPANY PURELY ON SHARE FINANCEING SO IF SHARE MARKET DOWN THEN HIGH RISK TO INVEST IN THIS.

oTHERS IF HAVE ANY VIEW PLEASE SHARE?
12. vas nat |   Link |  Bookmark | June 4, 2011 4:23:26 PM (200+ Posts)
IFCI Bonds - (Transactions in BSE)

1)The avg yield for all bonds transacted in May 11 of SBI is 9.55%.
2)The avg yield for all bonds transacted in May 11 of IFCI is 10%.

i.e., SBI Bonds transact @ 0.45% premium over IFCI for the ratings, risk factor etc.

Taking the yield of 10%, the new IFCI 10.75% bonds (annual interest) works out to 5.5% premium on Face Value.

Considering our earlier experience that whenever bonds with higher interest enter the market the premium on face value on all bonds reduces by 2-3 %.

Therefore the overall gain expected is 2-3%.
11. vas nat |   Link |  Bookmark | June 4, 2011 2:54:06 PM (200+ Posts)
Vikash - I am also of the same opinion as yours. The main point is how much the issue is going to be over subscribed and how much is going to be retained by IFCI. Issue of more than 1000 crores will have some liquidity and issue of 150 crores for sure will not have any liquidity. On the other hand IFCI appears to have target of more than 1000 crores thru Gree Shoe Opton considering the time period of 2 months kept open for this issue and the max amount per application fixed at Rs.50 crores.

How funny the issue size is fixed at Rs.150 crores and the max single application is Rs.50 crores. Why can't they have fixed the issue at 1000-2000 crores and be transparent to investors so that more enthusiasm is generated.

Investors who are not much bothered on liquidity can apply since common sense tells that 10.75% interest is higher than 9.95% interest of SBI bonds.

One more point is the reservation of cummulative interest options of II & IV reserved for individuals and HUFs. Is it better than option I & III of annual interest? I do not think so but why specific reservation then?

I tried to find out the trades of earlier bond issues of IFCI etc in BSE but could observe that only Corporate bonds of high value is traded and no trades happen in retail bonds. If somebody has more info on this pl share.