Birla Pacific Medspa Ltd IPO Message Board (Page 3)

But in Birla Cots Case can u considered the Bonus and stock split so considering 1:10 stock split and again thereafter 5:1 bouns the cost of Birlacots become at around Rs 6 to 7. please take the note

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Dont go for it. u will lose ur money

yes 101% sure about the dates of fpo brokers have shorted ongc at 270 and crude price is falling hence rates will come down july 5 to july 8

MR. GOOD BROKER (45),

SIR, THE ONGC FPO DATES GIVEN BY YOU HAD ALREADY RECEIVED. AND
MONEYCONTROL.COM STILL SAYING THIS DATE. BUT DIFFERENT NEWS ARE
COMING TIME TO TIME. TILL TODAY THIS DATE IS FINALISE OFFICIALLY.

SIR, ARE YOU SURE THE DATES 5/7/11 TO 8/7/11 IS FINAL ?

ONGC OPENS 5 JULY 2011 CLOSES 8 JULY
CURRENT RATE TODAY RS 266.3 LIKELY TO COME CLOSE TO RS 260

Birla pacific Med spa IPO priced between Rs.10-11 and to open from June 20 to June 23.

birla shloka current 15 rs birla cots 52 paisa

yash birla group performance birla shloka edu.ltd. issue price around 45 birla cots 12rs zenith birla 9 month ago 28 now 7rs birla power 1 rs and now birla midspa price band 10 to 11 decision yours after money is also yours and yash birla wants it for enjoy

Selva, You are absolutely right.. u'll be in profit if it closes below 4480 on expiry. Otherwise you can sell your put option anytime before expiry if the premium is above 120.

Dear ashish ,Please correct me incase if i understood mistakenly.In the below answer if i buy a put 4600(premium(120)*125*no of lot).I can earn profit only the price close below 4480(4600-premium(120)!!!!!!am i correct or wrong?
3. For buying call/ put, you pay only premium, in our example for put 4600 you pay (120*125) per lot, you earn if the closing price is below 4880 to the extent it goes down. For selling put 4600 @ 120 you earn premium (120*125) per lot, and you need to bring in margin roughly calculated as (market price*125)*20% on day to day basis. Your profit is the premium you get if the closing price on expiry is above 4600, else you loose. For both buying and selling futures, you need to provide margin as for options, if you buy future and price goes up on expiry, you earn to the extent it goes up, else you loose to the extent it goes down.

Selva, sorry for goofing up the calculation in my last post..pls read it with following corrections..

1. If you expect price to go up by expiry, buy call and a put otherwise. If you buy put TITAN 4600, you will earn if it closes below 4600 on expiry (strike price - closing price) is your profit. In case of call, a call 4600 will earn you profit if the closing price is above 4600 (closing price - strike price) is your profit. The deciding factor is premium to be paid.

3. For buying call/ put, you pay only premium, in our example for put 4600 you pay (120*125) per lot, you earn if the closing price is below 4880 to the extent it goes down. For selling put 4600 @ 120 you earn premium (120*125) per lot, and you need to bring in margin roughly calculated as (market price*125)*20% on day to day basis. Your profit is the premium you get if the closing price on expiry is above 4600, else you loose. For both buying and selling futures, you need to provide margin as for options, if you buy future and price goes up on expiry, you earn to the extent it goes up, else you loose to the extent it goes down.

4. You can sell call, instade of buying put if you want to short. The major difference is the risk, as an optin buyer the risk is limited to the premium paid, you loose the premium paid if the market doesnt move as desired by you. But, you are exposed to huge risk if you sell an option and the market goes against you. Thasts the reason, option selling is not recommended to retial investors.

In all the cases, you can always square off your position before expiry, if you are making desired profit, or you want to limit your loss.

Do post if you need further details about anything ....

Ashish

Selva,

1)When i am choosing buy in put option for titan i could see the so many striking price like 4750,4500,...2750 also when it was trading in the market 4760-4700 range.Can you please explain which one i need to choose incase i want sell means buying puts!!!

It goes like this.. TITAN todays closing price is 4560.. as you mentioned there are number of put options (and call as well) available for 4500, 4600 etc.. if you feel that, by expiry TITAN will be @ 4600.. you should buy put for strike price above 4600 so that the closing price - Strike price would be your profit. The other option is.. you can buy call option for strike price below 4600. and your profit would be closing price - strike price.. The deciding factor is premium. becoz.. for buying an option you will have to shell out premium.

2)The difference between the market price and future price would be!

It should be different depending on various factors like time to expiry, market condition, investors expectations etc..etc.. but mostly it is more or less same.. if more people expect price to go up by expiry.. it will be @ premium.. means the future price will be more than the current market price and it will be @ discount means the future price will be less than market price if most people think otherwise..

3)how much margin amt i needed for options(only the premium amt *no of lots)/something else and also for future!!

For buying an option.. as you have rightly identified.. you need to pay only premium i.e. premium amt*lot size*no. of lots (e.g. to buy TITAN 4600 put for current series it is 120*125*no. of lots)(another thing to clarify here is.. you will loose the premium paid if TITAN closes below 4600 on expiry. If it closes above 4720 (Strike price + Premium amt), only then you will make money) To sell option you need to bring in margin, how much?? there is complex calculation.. but roughly.. you can consider 20% of the contract value i.e. to sell 4600 put of titan it will be (market price*125*no of lots)*20% and it will change on day to day basis.. based on the daily closing price (your margin money will reduce or you'll have to bring in more margin) And in this example as a seller you'll get Premium*125*no. of lots ( If it closes below 4720 on expiry, you'll be in profit)

Remaining question I'll answer tomorrow..

Ashish

Hi ashish p,
Ya it does helped me
Thank for your valuable reply.It helped me to understand in a better and simple way.
Can you please clarify for somemore questions.Sorry for the trouble and thanks in advance.
1)When i am choosing buy in put option for titan i could see the so many striking price like 4750,4500,...2750 also when it was trading in the market 4760-4700 range.Can you please explain which one i need to choose incase i want sell means buying puts!!!
2)The difference between the market price and future price would be!
3)how much margin amt i needed for options(only the premium amt *no of lots)/something else and also for future!!
4)Can i do sell in call incase i want to short in options instead of buy in put!!!
My question may look idotic since i am new to this..
please clarify for those question!!

Hi Selva,

I'm tryng to answer your queries to the best of my knowledge...

1.What is the main difference between futures and options?

Future: Contract made today to buy/ sell on future date @ agreed price (e.g. buy 1 lot nifty today @ 5516, you make money if the nifty closes above 5516 on expiry, else you loose)
Option: As the name suggest, an option baught today to buy(call) or sell(put) on future date at an agreed price. (e.g. buy an call option for nifty 5600, you make money if nifty closes above 5600 on expiry, else you loose the premium paid)

2.Options based on the stock price movement /nifty?
You can buy options for individual scrip or nifty

3.for example i have placed the option call for next month in the script bgr energy.In that month bgr energy script value is increased but nifty value is decreased.Will I get profit?
If you buy call option for BGRENERGY - for strike rate 500 you will make money if it closes above 500 on expiry, irrespective of nifty going up or down, but if you buy call option for nifty strike rate 5500, you will have to watch nifty closing on expiry.

4.how many days i can hold the shares if i placed in future option?
Pls clarify the question...

5.What is the difference between buying in call option and selling in call option?
As an option buyer you pay premium to the option seller, in turn seller agrees to honor the option contract (means on expiry, if you make maney, he looses); and as an option seller you'll get the premium amount from the buyer, but you'll have to bring in the margin till option expiry to honor the contract.

6.what is the difference between buying in put option and selling in put option?
It is same as above..

7.i heard that we can sell any time within the expiry date(Then what is the difference between current month,next month,next to next month futures/options).they can choose for 3 month valid they can sell at anytime between that 3 months right.
There are differt option series for current month, next month etc.. you can wait till expiry or square off your position anytime before expiry (if you buy nifty 5500 call option for august series, you can wait till expiry that is on 25th august or sell before expiry to square off your position, obviously if you are making money..)

Hope this helps.. do post if you need more clarification on anything....

Regards
Ashish

Rushil Decor ipo opening on 20th-23rd june.

ICRA has assigned grade 2/5 indicating below-average fundamentals to the proposed initial public offering of Rushil Decor (RDL), in its research report.

RDL is a part of the Ahmedabad based Rushil group engaged in the manufacturing and sales of laminated sheets. RDL started as a manufacturer of laminated sheets with an installed capacity of 8.4 lakh sheets per annum which has increased to 30 lakh sheets per annum as on date. In 2009, RDL diversified into the manufacturing of Plain Particle Board. Currently the company is setting up a MDF unit at Chikmanglur, Karnataka.

The report says, "The IPO grade assigned by ICRA reflects the favourable demand outlook for engineered wood products driven by strong growth in furniture and construction segment, RDL’s long track record in the wood panel industry and improvement in product mix owing to diversification into particle board and MDF business. The grading is however constrained by the intensely competitive nature of the industry and the vulnerability of the industry to changes in regulation by Central Empowered Committee (CEC)."

"The grading also reflects RDL’s moderate scale of operations, risk of raw material availability in case of adverse agro-climatic conditions, vulnerability of RDL’s profitability to adverse movement in raw material prices and foreign exchange risk on export receivables. Going forward, the company’s ability to achieve the desired production and sales in the new particle board and MDF project will be the key to its future growth and profitability," ICRA said in a report.

can any one tell how much brokrage/comission in sanghvi forgin in full app.??

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Future and Options
Hi Sreethar,Gane,Duraj,KK,
Can anyone please clarify about the Future and Options trading.Since i am not getting clearly from my broker/google.
it will be useful for my further movement.So far i am trading only in equitity shares.
I would like to move derivatives.please clarify the following inorder to proceed.
1.What is the main difference between futures and options?
2.Options based on the stock price movement /nifty?
3.for example i have placed the option call for next month in the script bgr energy.In that month bgr energy script value is increased but nifty value is decreased.Will I get profit?
4.how many days i can hold the shares if i placed in future option?
5.What is the difference between buying in call option and selling in call option?
6.what is the difference between buying in put option and selling in put option?
7.i heard that we can sell any time within the expiry date(Then what is the difference between current month,next month,next to next month futures/options).they can choose for 3 month valid they can sell at anytime between that 3 months right.
Please clarify the above questions.i was doping intraday buying and shorting so far .in that i should sell all of my holdings by the eod so i lost some money because of that if i come to know about this future and option it will be good.
Thanks in Advance,
Selva