इसे कहते है गरीबी में आटा गीला. लगता है पैसे फिर से फंस गए. एक lot के लिए अप्लाई किया था, और अब तो शेर मिलने ही मिलने है भाई- कुछ जादू वादू चलाओ और २००-४०० प्रीमियम पे लिस्ट करो
Important dates for Bharat Dynamics IPO Allotment Status The Allotment date for Bharat Dynamics Limited IPO issue is expected on March 20, 2018. The amount will get unblocked on March 21, 2018. The Shares are expected to credit in DP accounts on March 21, 2018. The Shares of Bharat Dynamics Limited is likely to get listed on March 22,2018 on both BSE and NSE.
This might be the reason for not taking any interest by Anchor investors. Buy at 150 and sell at 418 in 6 month time period.What a DYNAMIC way ! Oh , one more thing is 1:1 bonus declared on 15th Feb 2018 otherwise price would have been 836 !
199.2. dpcdsl| Link| Bookmark|
March 13, 2018 2:29:53 PM
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Company has bought back shares @150/- means company was gainer as it has paid lesser amount, looser was the then share holder, i.e. GOI.
Company was neither gainer or looser and gov was not looser.
Gov is smart and blood sucking. First it forced the company to buy back shares from them and then after few month again force them to issue shares back to them in the form of Bonus shares. So actually government got INR 150 per share without even tendering the shares.
And now because of all this scam financial juglary and using the three words "Make in India" they are showing that value of company shares has increased from INR 150 to INR 428 and in less than one year period......so much potential got added to the company that all retail investors will apply flock to this IPO and apply en-masse.
Apologies for writing this but I think now a days you and some other people talk more about your vies on government and not related to stocks. Its your personal view and you are free to share it. I have learned a lot from people like you but when you guys post such irrelevant information it hurts. Apologies again if it hurts any one. Not my intension.
I see only one posting before this one from your ID.
Please read last four 5 IPOs and almost everybody is talking about the government and its policies continuously. I ask you politely why you did not mention your concern against all those messages.
Not sure why the continuously flow of the government related messages doesn''t bother you but a single mention of three alphabetical I did not even write full "Government") in my posting is extremely bothersome to you. God bless u.
BTW Gov is the promoter of BDL and I don''t understand why you will say mention of "Gov" is irrelevant. Also if you believe that issue of buy-back and bonus shares in succession and very close to each other is ethical then share your knowledge. Please also let the forum know if these issues and subsequent method of determining price is justified then share your justification and knowledge in this regard. It will enlighten us and help me and other forum members in improving our knowledge.
Believe me as your intention was, I am not hurt but just surprised.
I believe the forum is for sharing each others knowledge and not for attacking others.
Yes, I am new into the chat that y only 1 or 2 messages. Also I have seen previous IPO messages also and that''s y I said Now a days people talks more about government rather than stocks or IPO. Its not pointing to any person. If it hurt then I am sorry. I am also one of your follower. I am closing this part here.
I believe that in last 15-20 years, I could learn only a very small percentage of Equity Investing as market and investors are changing everyday and they are more dynamic thatn me. I still try to keep up-to-date. I also occasionally fail in my investing.
Having said that I also believe that 99% of the online-offline analyst are overrated ( I will not say fake). Now a word of caution to everyone:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Be aware that all kind of agents become part of our IPO forums.
They will utilize all means to create artificial demand in IPOs which may include same person using multiple IDs for various comments, create new IDs to suppress opposing view and also create newer IDs to promote their own view.
A set of ID will justify some analysis of another ID and promise 40-50% listing gains with no time frame mentioned. When the IPO listing fails IDs will go to sleep and then re-surface when there is some movement in the scrip completely forgetting that their comment was for listing gain.
Let me repeat that they will utilize all the means, I really mean ALL (of ANY KIND). I can keep on going on and on and on but my only suggestion to all of you is
Do not blindly follow anyone or any ID (including me) irrespective how popular that ID is in online forum. Online popularity can also be fabricated, bought, arranged etc etc etc. There is a complete industry to propagate specific online opinions which serve the purpose of specific persons or groups.
With experience, retail investors have also become wiser. Look at the no of retail applications in Bharat Dynamics only 1.86 lakhs compared to 6 to 10 lacs applications normally received. This shows that retail is not getting trapped by following some ids
Only time (not just listing gains) will tell whether retail investors were wiser or foolish. Just look at how lackluster NBCC''s listing was and what a multibagger it became afterwards
I can only hope that retail investors do not blindly follow anyone or any specific ID.
Question is not that whether someone''s recommendation for IPO was right or wrong. Question is why anyone or any ID will promote other ID EXPLICITLY and keep on attempting the same EXPLICITLY over and over again unless there is a hidden motive. Think about it.
Now let us come to BDL.
I also believe that BDL has a long term potential. But I have only question.Since BDL has long term potential why anyone should not also consider the option of buying post listing instead of applying in BDL IPO. By buying post listing, at least the person will be reducing his/her own risk while still keeping the option of buying later, Please also think....what could possibly be the objective of IDs/members who keep on insisting and insisting and insisting that "BUY ONLY IN IPO" is the only option.
Can we own Flipkart, Paytm etc? No, they will always be owned by foreigners.
For heavens sake price these PSUs(owned by our taxpayer money) in such a way so that middle class indians can own these companies.
Look at some IPO priced by both NDA&UPA which were multibaggers many times over such as Maurti in 2003 was priced at Rs 120 or 150 and touched 10,000. Same is the case with NBCC which has been a great success. However, in volume terms there have been more PSU IPOs in the last 3 to 4 years but most have value destroyers.
Media should take this up as to how middle class Indian have been taken for a ride and how every time LIC is used to bail them out which is again owned by middle class Indians through their taxes
LIC should be barred in applying such govt. Companies like gic, new India assurance and Bharat dynamics HAL. Otherwise soon it will become another PNB.
197.3. jajo| Link| Bookmark|
March 15, 2018 7:58:47 PM
Top Contributor (300+ Posts, 200+ Likes)
@ Singh, I fully agree with you that the present NDA govt is anti middle class in each and every actions and policies.. one example is as you said the PSU IPO pricing policy which has destroyed the many investors wealth. Another is LTCG tax with a ridiculous exemption of only Rs Lakh per year. Similarly is with the promise of individual IT exemptions with 5 lakhs. All their election pormises were fake only to garner the middle class families votes.
197.4. PavanM| Link| Bookmark|
March 16, 2018 11:25:34 AM
IPO Mentor (600+ Posts, 400+ Likes)
Yes Makhu, agree with your view that LIC should be barred from sailing through these PSU IPOs. can we start a Facebook movement in this direction till it reaches LIC chairman and send a strong message that if LIC continues investing in these high priced PSUs, LIC will be barred by retail investors by inclining to private insurers only.