215. Elon Rusk| Link| Bookmark|
December 15, 2022 10:59:39 AM
IPO Mentor (500+ Posts, 200+ Likes)
Experts please help. I had applied for 8 lots (24000) shares. In BOA i dont see a row corresponding to 24000 shares. Is it because my application was rejected or any other reason? I dont see any reason for non allotment on Purva site
Bhai, Most of the registrar don't publish full BOA but a sample size boa only. Taking only highly subscribed lot sizes and leaving out least subscribed ones.
You may email registrar for full boa but they will not entertain such requests. Nevertheless you can try your luck. And inform us too if you succeed.
I have never been allotted any SME share but bought one lot of Baheti at 106 and now I think that I have made a very big mistake by doing so because it has hit a LC today. I didn't know that since its still in ST category, so, I will not be able to sell it before T+2 days. Any views by any of the gurus whether it was really a mistake to buy it at 106?Seeing the selling orders at the end of day, it seems it will get successive LCs in the coming days.
Not a Guru.. but I would like to suggest if u are not a high risk trader than u can take an exit near around 100 rs.. in next few days with minor loss.. stock price can go either way from here .. but present trend is downward.
Buy below 80 for safety and short. For long, may buy 90-100, but not advisable. Wait for result. Business is related to almunium (commodity) hence cyclical and manipulated by some big US companies. This is NOT Nupur.
Another phantom digital effecs in the making, listing gains of 200 percent and will settle at 100 percent gain of IPO price i.e at Rs 85-90 it should settle.
It should be a value buy around 90 .... It may be having more pending order but there would much more buyer once there is some buying.... Would surely buy on 3rd LC from now which i think is the most LC it would have ..... May think to buy on 2nd LC if there is movement in the pre-open..... No plan to even think on tomorrow.....
209.4. lokes| Link| Bookmark|
December 13, 2022 11:00:43 AM
IPO Guru (4400+ Posts, 5100+ Likes)
so as expected LC opened here today around 97 levels.... i would be buying it if one more LC would have come means around 92 , anyways that's gone case now....since as expected it has hit UC also after LC opened.... @gaurav: volumes doesn't matter, its about share value/range at that price , many big players can suddenly turn more volumes to other way....
209.5. Takamichi| Link| Bookmark|
December 13, 2022 11:25:36 AM
IPO Mentor (800+ Posts, 700+ Likes)
I was also looking to buy tomorrow .... UC doesn't seem to be much strong.... As majority r stuck at pre-open price and then at around 114 so today UC may be because not much allottee r left to sell....
I could not sell because reliance securities had not activated trading in this share by online trading the entire day. However they put my order by call&trade at about 11AM when there was lower circuit. Now shall wait till reverse circuits come in force.
Very good listing yesterday. But closed on LC. When any share subscribed at such a high premium, it is difficult to resist. People will definitely try to book profit at any level. Today it opened at LC 108.30 and high low all at LC. But volume is very good. More than 16 lakhs shares traded all at LC. More than 7 lakhs are there to sell. In these circumstances after completion of LCs it is likely to hit UCs. But is not a game of common investors. To invest such a huge fund in only one share is not advisable except for biggies. Lot of purchases have been done by big houses. Wait and watch BAHETI. Think twice before taking any decision for buying.
@PKRAJ ji, any reason why after completion of the LC, it will hit UC and will not trade sideways. Also any idea, when does the circuit rule change from 5% to 10% for SME's?
@CA. Sanchit Jain, Really a good question. This share listed at very hefty premium and profit booking is always there. This share hit UC and thereafter LC. Very interesting. Lot of buying was done. In my views it is likely to hit many LCs. I told it is likely and not will. It may travel side ways also. It has good business model and likely to move any side. But when LC iqs going to finish is a big question. This is only individual mind set. No body is expert and all are experts in Share Market. Even in CNBC experts are away when market is in continuous negative zone.
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204. ipo share| Link| Bookmark|
December 8, 2022 5:17:08 PM
IPO Guru (1500+ Posts, 700+ Likes)
Central Bank of India has has not Unblocked Baheti Recycling ASBA amount till now. Anyone facing the same problem? I have sent mail to Purva Sharegistry. If anything else I can do, experts please guide as I need to get the amount unblocked urgently to apply in other IPOs. Thanks 🙏
Funds are still blocked on UPI mandate applied via Zerodha.....anyone in still in the same boat or unblocked for all?
202. lokes| Link| Bookmark|
December 7, 2022 9:41:18 PM
IPO Guru (4400+ Posts, 5100+ Likes)
in my opinion, expected listing range is around 97 to 102.... it can be safe buy if listing is around 90 to 92 or below levels....profit can be booked around 105 or above levels.... as per some of recent sme's trend, be careful before buying at high prices and take decision as per your risk...vital/amiable/daps didn't performed well after listing...and here in baheti, good amount (63%) of shares are with retailers so selling pressure may be there later.... company financials are average as of now and issue is reasonably priced as per initial annualized results of FY23 but it may perform good in long term....
In my opinion it will list around 80 not more than that. Now days operators are very smart than us. Tomorrow you will see many order at very lower price. It is my thought and I may be wrong also. Don't try to purchase at pre open ...take lessons from AMBO...
Agreed with Dinesh. it will be 80 or below that. Reason 1) As told by lokes - 63% retailers 2) 3 Ipos listing together - buyers will be divided between 3 3) Gujrat election results - many will avoid taking risk.
202.3. lokes| Link| Bookmark|
December 7, 2022 10:22:59 PM
IPO Guru (4400+ Posts, 5100+ Likes)
@dinesh: ya operators are always smart than us :) but i think still it will list around 88-90 atleast minimum, else below that if we buy in preopen, it won't disappoint us like vital and others, just my thought....rest as i see, sme's keep giving surprises on either side.... And btw here hni has only 37% shares, out of those many are smaller hni's with 1 lot allotment.....so operator/big people will not be having too much shares here so they can't put many orders at lower price since we can't short sell in preopen without shares allotted.....
There is no safe buy right now in sme pre-open....vital, amiable etc all listed in good level but they r trading so low.... Amiable was safe to buy below 130 and now trading at 105-108..... I am planning to buy it but would put order at 85.... Above that it's not worth the risk in current market....moreover the amount at 85 is more than 2.5 lakhs so it's a big amount to invest in a single stock with an uncertain time in smes....
202.5. lokes| Link| Bookmark|
December 7, 2022 11:39:51 PM
IPO Guru (4400+ Posts, 5100+ Likes)
@takamichi: yes i also mentioned vital/amiable didn't performed well after listing....amiable atleast hit uc on first day and was near listing price for some days so gave chance to exit near listing price but vital came only 1 time recently above listing price and kept going down... And from my buy/sell zone mainly i mean that after listing, it may move higher if listing below buy levels and it may go down if listing above sell levels...and that's mainly for short term for some days.... And i normally don't buy sme's in preopen, just few times i bought...here also will not buy if listing is higher...we need to be careful as i said...
202.6. Takamichi| Link| Bookmark|
December 8, 2022 12:12:40 AM
IPO Mentor (800+ Posts, 700+ Likes)
@lokes the comment was in generic term.... Didn't want to contradict u in any case....just wanted to supplement it.... Hope it would be taken in good faith.... Thanks
@lokes, Are you going to buy if it listed around 85?
202.8. lokes| Link| Bookmark|
December 8, 2022 8:29:43 AM
IPO Guru (4400+ Posts, 5100+ Likes)
@dinesh: ya upto 90 i can try buying, else don't want to put more than double money in buying 1 lot... @takamichi: it was just healthy discussion from all of us, presenting our own views, i never mind for such things....
202.9. lokes| Link| Bookmark|
December 8, 2022 8:52:04 AM
IPO Guru (4400+ Posts, 5100+ Likes)
So finally a good surprise here...as i mentioned there is no trend in sme's, anyone can surprise on either side.. Listed so strong at 120....good new buying demand from big people here since they had lesser allotments further movements will depends on how much retailers hold/sell and demand from big hni....
202.10. Takamichi| Link| Bookmark|
December 8, 2022 9:16:34 AM
IPO Mentor (800+ Posts, 700+ Likes)
And the phantom story is repeated.... Would surely buy it if there is 3/4 LC..... For now this is not my expertise, so i am out.... All the sellers at LC are retailers only.... Not even one has more than 1 lot......
@Takamichi Please check facts about Phantomfx before posting, you are unnecessarily blaming retailers for Phantomfx listing, I think you bought on high and stuck. FYI.... Phantomfx listed on 21.Oct.2022 On listing day these are share sell data...
Please stop defaming retailers, profit booking by retailers is not a crime.
202.12. Takamichi| Link| Bookmark|
December 8, 2022 10:03:47 AM
IPO Mentor (800+ Posts, 700+ Likes)
Ek baar phir se padh lo .... Phir bhi same lage toh read it in any way u want.... Get as offended as u can ...... Don't feel like giving any justification to you.....
@lokes sir Sir, It was brought out earlier also but I am unable to comprehend this issue. Initially the shares were allotted as: Retail - 13,08,000 ; subs - 435 NII - 13,05,000 ; subs - 259 Both were subscribed heavily. The why during allotment they were allotted as follows: Retail - 16,32,000 to 544 applicants NII - 9,81,000 to 272 applicants Thanks Regards
Does it mean that if retail is getting subscribed heavily than NII, then retail is better. If it is other way round ie NII is subscribed heavily then retail- then again the Shares will be shifted from retail to NII?
202.15. lokes| Link| Bookmark|
December 8, 2022 10:33:50 AM
IPO Guru (4400+ Posts, 5100+ Likes)
@AAvi: share movement happens only when retail demand is more than hni, not in other way....retailers are given preference means.... you can check below thread where i mentioned earlier..... https://www.chittorgarh.com/ipo/ipo_discussions.asp?a=1245&c=506169&ap=0
202.16. Arca| Link| Bookmark|
December 8, 2022 10:35:59 AM
(1000+ Posts, 500+ Likes)
In fixed price ipo,
If retail is more than hni ,then some hni lots will move to retail.
In simple words hni= retail (in terms of subscription times).
@Thoth No retailers can be blamed for listing and no body will. In SMEs retailers can't play any major role. A big game is normally played by the market makers. Retailers can become the victims only. On high listing day retailers should not purchase. If high appetite, will enter at any level. Nobody is misguided by any one, any way. Only exceptions. Use some soft words, if it pleases you. We all are not a very high level expert. Knowledge gathered from different sources only. But this is also an art.
@PKR Ji I admire your writing here that you understood what I meant. In all these choas and euphoria, I don't want retailers to get trapped. In these times when big institutions are playing safe by taking capital out of equation then it's naive to expect retailers to be a mute spectator. What happened with LiC and people are still stuck in some company like car trade. Actually I replied to this guy named Takamichi. Who made unnecessary connection between phantom and Baheti.
And this Takamichi said this about Pritika sme and I quote ' Would buy if available at 6-7 rs premium....above that would leave it for now..' then he informed that he bought at 40.5 rs. Giving a premium of 11.50 rs. What is this..... 😁😅😂😂😂
201. SSingh| Link| Bookmark|
December 8, 2022 3:15:22 PM
IPO Guru (1400+ Posts, 800+ Likes)
Lesson after bumper listing: NEVER SELL IN GREY!!! 🤣🤣
What a great listing, not expected by any one. Not expected by any expert or from any source. First good listing, UC and LC. All in one session. At present +153%. Great. But it looks difficult to exit now. Whenever there is such a great listing one must exit. Great investors and with good financial appetite can take risk. To get more than 2 lakhs, it is better not to be so greedy. My best wishes to all who got allotment and booked profit. Enjoy with family.
Dear Fellow Members, I had applied for 12 lots (36,000 shares) in this IPO. But the BOA does not mention this category. It goes straight from 10 lots (30,000 shares) to 15 lots (45,000 shares). Am i missing something or the Registrar is at fault? Kindly guide me.
Thank God I didn't buy at 120. Listing at 120 is a very big surprise. Even, the business doesn't justify this price.
Is anyone here who is holding Kotyark industries? If yes, kindly share your views about its future because its behaving like a falling knife now from almost 40 days.