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Astron Paper & Board Mill Ltd IPO Message Board (Page 50)

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117. Nagaraj SV |   Link |  Bookmark | December 15, 2017 8:55:20 AM
Yes. Still it is not showing in SBI ASBA.....
116. Prasin |   Link |  Bookmark | December 15, 2017 8:39:14 AM
It seems, the Astron is not listed in SBI ASBA service still...

Anybody experience this?
116.1. Advokailash |   Link |  Bookmark | December 15, 2017 8:45:12 AM
yes still waiting for this
115. gamble |   Link |  Bookmark | December 12, 2017 7:46:55 PM (1600+ Posts, 3900+ Likes)
............... Astron paper & board mill......
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=>Incorporated in 2010,mainly associated with production of kraft paper and supply that to paper/boxes packaging industry,
=> complete fresh issue of 70cr
=> Major selling shareholder(promotor)
AGL avg acquisition rate was 9rs (vs issue upper price 50rs)
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M. Cap (50rs) = 232cr
PAT cagR : 55%
PBT cagr : 20%
REVENUE caGr : 10%
... Past 3 yr CaGR''s...

Good Financing in taxes(All companies must have smart CA now a days!!)
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Peers

................. P/E*......P/S.....ronw.. . sales cagr

Astron......... 23....... 1.26x......22%....10%
South.......... 15.......0.9x.........9%...... .5%
Ajit pulp.... .. 17.......0.5x........7%....... 5%
Genus.......... 36........1.1x........2%........ 3%
Jk paper....... 12........0.9x........13%.....13%
NR Agarwal.. 10...... .0.75x......58%.....19%
Star paper..... 7...... 1.3x........64%......13%

* last yr(2017) PE
ConcL : NR Agarwal is good pick valuation wise but only in correction(if) , already too much upmove hppned !

Industry outlook : neutral,
Low barrier business, many listed shares hv priced in nxt 1-2 good quarter at their CMP''s.
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Valuation

Pre issue share : 32500000
Post issue share : 46500000

@upper band 50rs,

2017...
Pre issue PE : 12, post issue PE : 23

2018 HY1 PAT : 9.4cr,
Full yr estimated sales 200cr, PAT 16cr(margin 8%)

EPS : 3.44 => PE 2018 = 14.53

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PE 20 is imo good/fair for 10% revenue, 15% PBT CAGR growth given good promotor and future perspective.

@20 PE price = 68.8rs*(listing price)

If gives value = 1.5x sales = 1.5*200 =300cr
Price = 65 rs(fair value)

1.8x sales = 77 rs (till 1 yr after list).

So in anyways after listing, it will become overvalued among listed peers.
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Retail allotment :

Issue may oversubscribe by 30-35x or even higher in rii category, so rare allotment possible. 1/30 type.

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Concl :

Apply......... For Listing gain.

For optimum profit subject to sell is
At 5000...u sold at 67(good)
At 6000...u sold at 71(better)
At 7000...u sold at 75(best)

Consider All above???? as an imo only!!




115.7. gamble |   Link |  Bookmark | December 14, 2017 4:21:57 PM (1600+ Posts, 3900+ Likes)
@OPOS
Not seen rhp in detail, but not sure about good listing gains,
If you hv good holding capacity then can take risk.
Otherwise not ''blind subscribe'' case imo.
115.8. Hari ji |   Link |  Bookmark | December 15, 2017 7:48:38 AM
Top Contributor Top Contributor (400+ Posts, 400+ Likes)
@gamble sir
THANKS
114. Market kid |   Link |  Bookmark | December 13, 2017 7:28:33 PM
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114.2. ????????.A.R.???????? |   Link |  Bookmark | December 15, 2017 3:54:02 AM
@kid, My name is I''m world''schild..... Probably you will find me everywhere... Even in the mud when someone kicks you down...
114.3. Shivajee |   Link |  Bookmark | December 15, 2017 7:08:10 AM (700+ Posts, 100+ Likes)
Great aims. But knowledge will make you powerful overnight. Most of us dream, but dreams are dreams unless we act to achieve them.

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113. chitra kamat |   Link |  Bookmark | December 13, 2017 5:05:13 PM (200+ Posts, 200+ Likes)
OK valuation, good promoters, good growth prospects, recycled raw material, small issue be with good appetite make it an sureshot listing gainer.
113.4. ????????.A.R.???????? |   Link |  Bookmark | December 15, 2017 3:43:58 AM
Or even a speculator''s paradise...
113.5. ????????.A.R.???????? |   Link |  Bookmark | December 15, 2017 3:46:49 AM
@uhuu, Haan honeymoon manate uhuu ahhaa to hote hi rahte, aa jao Jaaneman uhuu, chalo GAME khele... Pakdam pakdai!
112. Blackpearl |   Link |  Bookmark | December 14, 2017 6:03:02 PM
This is T group security....can i sell it on listing day? what will be upper circuit on that day?? and circuit will be released after 10 days. right?
112.1. ????????.A.R.???????? |   Link |  Bookmark | December 15, 2017 3:42:52 AM
Good question...
111. Skgkr |   Link |  Bookmark | December 14, 2017 10:04:27 PM
Can i apply any no. Above 280 share or in multiple of 280?
111.1. raj agrawal |   Link |  Bookmark | December 14, 2017 10:10:27 PM
yeah , Single Lot having more chances for allotment .
110. nipa shah |   Link |  Bookmark | December 14, 2017 12:18:01 PM
wht''s the gmp price sirji.......?
109. Baelish |   Link |  Bookmark | December 14, 2017 11:47:38 AM
Best part of this IPO is the DATE.

recetly listed IPO''s date was wrongly scheduled, money was stuck in one IPO and other IPO got missed.
Non allotees of FSC and Shalby can apply in this one. Allotment will be tough, retail category can get subscribe more than 80x
108. BDMP JAIN,New Delhi |   Link |  Bookmark | December 14, 2017 11:05:14 AM
Astron subject to application of Rs.14000/-
Rate is 6300/- 6500/-
107. rakesh sharma bikaner |   Link |  Bookmark | December 14, 2017 12:00:42 AM
nice article
106. IPO Jackpot |   Link |  Bookmark | December 13, 2017 10:15:07 PM
Only point is small issue which will ensure50-60 times huge oversubscription. Otherwise nothing as such financial etc. Capital market has given only 30 out of 100 that is clear avoid.
105. Market kid |   Link |  Bookmark | December 13, 2017 9:58:50 PM
Finally mystery solved of astron having small " a "


I just called kirti patel, ramakant patel and karshanbhai patel, and asked about this issue

Only karshanbhai had the answer,

He told me,

Astron with capital ''A'' already registered watch brand of UK, so they don''t have authority to use capital A wala Astron,

I asked 2nd que : why your PBT is lower than your PAT

He answered " if shalby can do ,why can''t we ?? "

We both are ahmedabadi ! Gujarati!

And hanged up!
104. Eagleye |   Link |  Bookmark | December 13, 2017 11:57:58 AM
IPO Guru IPO Guru (6600+ Posts, 21900+ Likes)
GMP last heard:

Astron Paper IPO
38 - 40
104.7. pamu |   Link |  Bookmark | December 13, 2017 9:09:36 PM
@Market Kid - Just search on google and you can find many company with name starting with small letter for their logos.
eg. -- asian paints, airtel, marico

Even 1160+ $ amazon also have small a.
104.8. Market kid |   Link |  Bookmark | December 13, 2017 9:49:25 PM
amazon really??
It''s the most meaningful logo of all time,

It shows a to z with arrow cum smile, so you can not use capital A to small z,
Either use A to Z or a to z, understood?

Marico - their logo contain peaceful designed capital letter M not m.

Airtel logo was earlier Airtel but changed airtel and we all know what happened after that !!

Asian paint contain small a just because of they have to match design with p letter


Still many logos contains first small case letter , but they have strong reason, mainly pronunciation reasons(facebook,moneycontrol,etc type)

Mostly when second letter is a, e, i, o, u


BTW

astron paper name is copied from star paper ,check this out

astron means star!


element active in English word formation from mid-18c. and meaning "star or celestial body; outer space," from Greek astro-, stem and comb. form of astron "star," related to aster "star" (see star (n.)). In ancient Greek, aster typically was "a star" and astron mostly in plural, "the stars."
103. BDMP JAIN,New Delhi |   Link |  Bookmark | December 13, 2017 9:35:02 PM
Astron subject to application of Rs.14000/-
Rate is 6000/-6500/-
102. BDMP JAIN,New Delhi |   Link |  Bookmark | December 13, 2017 9:34:47 PM
Astron subject to application of Rs.14000/-
Rate is 6000/-6500/-
101. HarishK |   Link |  Bookmark | December 13, 2017 6:44:47 PM
At what P/E and P/B is valued at 50/share
101.1. Market kid |   Link |  Bookmark | December 13, 2017 7:10:21 PM
Are bruh yanha gamble bruh mara ja rha hai, full analysis krke aur aap ab bhi PE PB kr rhe ho, just scroll it ,

ab wo bhi aapko batana pdega,


Put any finger on screen, slide it upwards, all done! Only stop at most liked post.
Or the post with so much data.

# kuchh nai ho sakta is desh ka .
100. PIYUSH CHAUDHARY |   Link |  Bookmark | December 13, 2017 6:33:53 PM
I THINK THIS ISSUE WILL BE OVERSUBSCRIBED AT LEAST 25X IN RETAIL
SO ALLOTMENT CHANCES ARE VERY LESS
BUT CHANCE OF NEGATIVE LISTING IS TOO REMOTE
SO IF YOU HAVE IDLE MONEY IN YOUR BANK ACCOUNT, THEN WHY NOT APPLY THROUGH ASBA AND TAKE A CHANCE AND PARTICIPATE IN LOTTERY !!
IF YOU ARE LUCKY ENOUGH TO GET ALLOTMENT, THEN YOU MAT EARN SOMETHING ANYWHERE ABOUT 3000-8000 RUPEES.
99. Bimz |   Link |  Bookmark | December 13, 2017 5:52:42 PM
@market kid
I think it''s about Company name matching with logo.(see their logo, it''s small "a")
Some times logo designers do that.
98. PIYUSH CHAUDHARY |   Link |  Bookmark | December 13, 2017 4:49:29 PM
FROM SBI BANK A/C I CAN FILE 5 APPLICATIONS IN ONE IPO, HOW MANY CAN I APPLY FROM HDFC BANK & INDUSIND BANK A/C ?