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103. Ravi, Bangalore |   Link |  Bookmark | June 29, 2010 1:14:48 PM
117. CHEMCHO or KEM CHO

Tell me one good reason why you did not apply in this IPO.
102. Ravi, Bangalore |   Link |  Bookmark | June 29, 2010 1:10:49 PM
BASIC RULES

IPO investment runs in cycles; some are good, some are bad. Think in terms of probabilities and act upon them. There are no certainties in investment. Inside information plays vital and there is nothing we can do about that other than accept it and act accordingly. You can keep yourself out of trouble by thinking in terms of probabilities. Get comfortable with approximate predictions and interpretations.

Never think that taking money from the market is easy.
Don’t try to guess the future – Listing gain is a game of probabilities.

Use your head and stay calm – don’t get excited or depressed.

Don’t count how much money you have made or lost while you are in a IPO market - focus on investing well.

There is an unofficial rule in the stock market which is called the “Odd Lot Theory”. According to this theory when small investors buy into a stock it’s a sell signal. The reasoning behind this is that the small investor is consistently wrong about when and what to buy, so if the little guy is buying, it’s time to sell. This unofficial rule has been painful and accurate during my four years in the markets.

We enter the share market to multiply our wealth in a short span of time. It is not so easy to make money from this share market, as it looks. I am of the opinion that it is not practically possible for every investor to know each and every aspect of the share market (eg: inside information).

Don't expect profit on every IPO investment.

Take responsibility for all your actions - Don't follow SMS, e-mail tips from unregulated entities.

Don’t be influenced by the opinions of others.

When you lose in IPO, don't blame SEBI, Operators, FIIs.
101. Ravi, Bangalore |   Link |  Bookmark | June 29, 2010 12:30:45 PM
107. KEM CHO

There are no masters in stock marekt. Be humble. Otherwise, market will make you humble.

Ahmedabad, Gujarat people are more successful compared to other parts of our country. However, nobody will come to you tell what you should do.

I lost so much money subscribing SMS, Messenger from Gujarat. I am not blaming Gujarat for that. I have to blame myself for my act.

You need to take responsibility for your money & you loose because of your own decision.

If you don't believe, lot of advertisements appear in Valunotes.com Economic Times Monday (Investors Guide), Business Line Sunday edition (Classifields column). Kindly try them & become millionaire in one month only. Lot of Gujarath people give SMS / Messenger tips. If you see thier past performance page, you feel you can quit your job & just do buying & selling sitting at your home.
100. Ravi, Bangalore |   Link |  Bookmark | June 29, 2010 12:14:38 PM
Dear All,

At the outset, I did not give my views. As per publicly available information with me it is not worth more than Rs.30 - 35.

If it has subscribed so much, probably because those people have inside information. Betting on listing gain is not possible. If you find value apply or avoid.

In case anybody lost because of my opinion, then I request you to go opposite of my view & become millionaire in one month only. Do you depend on my views for your stock market investment? You are supposed to collect my view as one input in addition to your home-work.
99. Ravi, Bangalore |   Link |  Bookmark | June 29, 2010 11:59:33 AM
104. VIVEK

I had not given by view about this at all. Why people listen to other viewers? Because, they don't have any system for buying & selling.

If Chittorgarch viewers comment works, then I will stop working and just do buying & selling sitting in AC Room.

Can you tell why people stop coming to market after two or three months of trading? Why people need to park money in FD, bonds?

Some people don't have basic common sense before commenting.
98. Ravi, Bangalore |   Link |  Bookmark | June 29, 2010 11:52:20 AM
111. chetan

You are really great fool. Why you go by Postings, blogs etc. Don't you have your own home-work?

In investment world, nobody has final word. People will just give their opinion. Market is smarter than analysts.
97. Ravi, Bangalore |   Link |  Bookmark | June 29, 2010 11:49:01 AM
119. Chanda

Its fair value appears to be anywhere between Rs.30 - 35. Do you wanted to bet some Operators will jack-up its price?

Stock market will not close from tomorrow. Cash is King.
96. Ipoexpert |   Link |  Bookmark | June 29, 2010 11:37:02 AM
one person is posting comments from various names, saying i lost the chance of applying aster.

Don't get upset man, if u r very crazy on Aster, then go to grey market, share is available at 4 rs.

QIB is 0.01 % is Aster.

Comments of Ravi on the primary as well as secondary market are very very good,Hats off to u man !!

95. Chanda |   Link |  Bookmark | June 29, 2010 10:58:51 AM
I have not applied to Aster IPO by seeing the experts comments on this board. But i still respect the views of Ravi Bangalore, Sreedhar, Gem IPO finder, Sahanpuri, K.K.Natarajan.
No Regrets.
94. RAKESH JHUNJHUNN |   Link |  Bookmark | June 29, 2010 9:16:40 AM
WE ARE REALLY FOOL.

WE FOLLOWED VIEWS OF THIS BOARD.AND MISSED THE OPPERTUNITY.

ASTER WILL BOOM BOOM BOOM ON THE LISTING DAY***********
93. Mexx |   Link |  Bookmark | June 29, 2010 8:30:49 AM
Hi
I am not taking side of any one here.I has just warned small investor to come from Aster at appropriate time.
This will be run by operators on listing.
Let us see how many days operator will keep it high, may be only for one day like as Tarapur Transformers.
92. K.K.Natarajan |   Link |  Bookmark | June 29, 2010 4:58:50 AM
An issue said to be overpriced by almost all the experts, which did not get any response from FIIs, suddenly gets oversubscribed by more than 4 times, with the retail portion being oversubscribed by more than 7 times! Something is brewing. There will be operators and so the listing will be good. As correctly observed by Mexx, it will certainly go the Thinksoft and Aqua logistics way. Those who have applied will have to be smart enough to come out at appropriate the time.
91. Mexx |   Link |  Bookmark | June 29, 2010 12:35:40 AM
Hi
Now people are accusing the Experts on this Board that they had missed Aster IPO.But if you see all QIB(MF+FII) had also given a miss to this particular issue.
I am not saying this will not give listing gain like as Aqua Logistic and Thinksoft Global.
Aster can give 50-150% gain in some days if same intermediate bullish market sentiments continues.
But what finally happened to Thinksoft Global, It gained 300% and now it at real inherent value (around 23% gain to IPO Price). So how many small investor would have been trapped there who missed Thinksoft Global IPO and later bought from market chasing the pie.
I am sure same story will happen to Aqua Logistic.Why I am giving example of these stock......because afterward people had a feeling that they missed these IPO(High Listing Gain)
Now observe some common thing between these 3 IPO's

1. IPO Subscription QIB and HNI

Aster Silicates 0.01 % 12.46 %
Thinksoft Global 0.31 % 6.54 %
Aqua Logistic 0.26 % 5.06 %

Pure QIB response and High HNI response, Because QIB want to put there money where is some value and growth. So you can see Aster Silicate is heavily priced and had no inherent value.

2. Issue opening time for both Thinksoft and Aqua was extended due to pure responce and Price was revised. Aqua had passed because in extended IPO period, Market suddenly gained.
HNI and corporate bodies played big game to pass these issues.

3. If you observe the price movement of Aqua Logistic (Till now) and Thinksoft Global(Before falling flat). Both had been continuously rising(without intermediate high and low).

This was due to circular trading (Same people/Group buying and selling till you are able to get some fool to sell holding)

4. Last six month, MF holding is zero for both Aqua Logistic and Thinksoft Global.

5. Aqua Logistics's Market Capital is hovering at 1120 Crores and trailing P/E OF 40 whereas Industry P/E for Logistics are 20 only.
So people who are keeping Aqua Logistics, be happy till this circular trading ends. It will crash when overall market will correct.

But still Aqua Logistics and Thinksoft Global was not over priced like ASTER SILICATES.

I still wander how this IPO has gone through in one go even FATPIPE has missed. Thanks to our market manipulators sitting in Mumbai and Gujarat.

Definitely this IPO will list at huge gain but don't go overboard to buy this from secondary market. Finally ye market hai sab janta hai ye market hai.

This was my observation; different people can have different opinion.
90. TruthSeeker |   Link |  Bookmark | June 28, 2010 9:42:33 PM
Hi Ravi,

Appreciate your thoughts!
That was pretty quick by the way. :)

Just one more question ... infact 2 ...
1) What do you mean by value stocks? Do you mean sensex shares?
2) When should you consider selling? And when you do, what do you sell? Shares in profit (winning positions? or shares in loss (cut losing positions?)

Thanks a lot for your ideas.
89. vivekbhauka |   Link |  Bookmark | June 28, 2010 6:39:27 PM
hi ravi

u are doing excellent work on educating and telling how to invest.....well done dude!!!!!!!!!!
88. DIGAMBER KHATRI |   Link |  Bookmark | June 28, 2010 6:13:25 PM
hi to all
retail till 6.00pm 6.83
87. PRAKASH |   Link |  Bookmark | June 28, 2010 4:55:54 PM
please tel me any premium of aster ant technofab in grey market? thsnk you
86. ds |   Link |  Bookmark | June 28, 2010 4:31:57 PM
big trap had been laid to lure retail investor..please be careful do not apply in aster ipo
85. Ravi, Bangalore |   Link |  Bookmark | June 28, 2010 4:19:56 PM
88. TruthSeeker

1. 10 - 12 stocks. If you hold too many stocks, tracking is difficult.

2. Don't invest more than 10% of your investment amount on any single stock in your portfolio.

3. &
4. Don't try to time the market. Allow time to market. You must understand that investors must loose either time or money in market. Value investors loose time (one, two, three, five years) but gain money. History says that over long-term, investors will make money.

Traders put stop-loss & cut loss. Hence, they may loose money but they have time to recover (if they meticoulously follow money management technich & control emotion).

Look for value stocks for long-term. Invest in at least four instalments (invest once in three months). If your stocks loose more than 20% in value after three months, buy again to bring down cost of acquisition. If it is in profit or lost less than 20%, then go for some other stocks.

Diversify at least in five sectors.

As you don't want to trade, your future appears to be bright.
84. PRINCE |   Link |  Bookmark | June 28, 2010 4:18:37 PM
SIR ,GEM IPO FINDER & SHREEDHERBHAI............

ASTER OR TECHNOFAB ENG MESE KOUNSE IPO ME LISTING GAIN KE LIYE APPLY KAR SAKTE HAI??????
OR DONO IPO KE PRIMIUM KYA HAI ???????
TECHNOFAB KE LIYE MUJHE APPLY KARNE KE LIYE NEWS HAI.KYA WAKEHI YE LISTING GAIN DE SAKTI HAI???????
PLEASE REPLY SIR................ . .

PRINCEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE