@diwan kapoor@Paymzia@Basuvr@Smile✍️@B.M.SURANA JI, or any other Respected sir, madam How allotmemt works in sme oversubscription , if i have applied of 8 lot rs. 10.80 lac application ARVIND & CO. lets say , if i get allotment it will be of how much share & how it alloted? Trying to figure it out but not getting proper answer for the same.? Thank you in advance.
@MVP Thank you sir for your reply.further ahead So no proportionate allotment count in such scene?
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October 19, 2023 9:04:38 AM
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@Ssshah Details are already mentioned by somone below on this page
Chances of allotment for 1. 2 Lot HNI application =>> 436/2 = 218 Means 1 out every 218 applicants will get 1 lot. 2. 8 lot HNI application=>> 436/8 = 54.5 Means 1 out of every 55 applicants of 8 lot, will get 1 lot. So it will be on lottery basis and you will get 1 lot if you are lucky
@Ssshah.. as explain by Mr Basuvr & Mr MVP.. You will get one lot of 3000 shares(worth of 1,35,000)..If you will luckiest one.. & rest of application money will be refunded to your bank a/c..
B.M.SURANA JI, or any other Respected sir, madam How allotmemt works in sme oversubscription , if i have applied of 8 lot rs. 10.80 lac application lets say ARVIND & CO. , if i get allotment it will be of how much share & how it alloted? Trying to figure it out but not getting proper answer for the same.? Thank you in advance.
B.M.SURANA JI, or any other Respected sir, madam How allotmemt works in sme oversubscription , if i have applied of 8 lot rs. 10.80 lac application ARVIND & CO. lets say , if i get allotment it will be of how much share & how it alloted? Trying to figure it out but not getting proper answer for the same.? Thank you in advance.
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October 19, 2023 12:28:06 AM
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To Shri Diwan Kapoor MVP Extremely grateful for the clarifications offered against my message 116. In SME IPOs , funds permitting , would also endeavour in future to apply in higher number of lots. Wish all of you best of luck for getting allotment in this issue. regards
Kapoor Sir pardon my ignorance , in this heavily oversubscribed issue ( more than 436 times) , there will be lottery draw and you stand as much chance as some body who had made 4 applications with 2 lots each. In fact you have made 4 applications with 11 lots each. Please educate and enlighten me , would be grateful. regards
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October 17, 2023 3:18:56 PM
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11 lot application has more probability.
In SME, more tge lot you apply increases probability
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October 17, 2023 9:15:19 PM
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@scbkc Chances of allotment for 1. 2 Lot HNI application =>> 436/2 = 218 Means 1 out every 218 applicants will get 1 lot. 2. 11 lot HNI application=>> 436/11 = 40 Means 1 out of every 40 applicants of 11 lot, will get 1 lot.
2. It is a Fixed Price Issue IPO, which means if Retail > HNI, share movement from HNI to Retail will happen. 4 HNI of 4-4 lots each seems a good option to me or if you have 15-16 accounts, you can go with 15-16 Retail apps also as HNI subs will also going to be high, Retail may be a better option Reasons: a. No parallel IPO running b. Good Company
@ajnabeedost i am paying int@9.75% and getting only 3% in saving account. I have opened new. Saving accounts now..... Now i will get from 5-7% depends on amount block.
If we apply 10 lots hni in sme, then also we get into the radar of income tax department or only if we get allotment then only we need to think of income tax?
@kingboss.. as far as I have a personal experience.. More than 2 Lac amount allotment are to be surely reflected in your AS-26. & for the same you have to pay the stcg tax on the profit.. That too as par your income tax slab.. All sme's & their allotments are below 2 Lac so.. You can apply without any fear of tax... if you have a balance in your a/c..
@kingboss No need to worry when the application is made from Bank account. That's your accounted funds and not other. Even if it reflects any where no problem. If you have unaccounted funds from different sources in your Bank, you need to be worried. IT department is not so free for small things and they know each transaction of everyone. Exceptions may be there. Here in our FORUM, we have very big HNIs. When you are on right track, why to worry. Is it your first time for such application? I am not a financial expert. I have given my views. If I am wrong, I will appreciate, if I am corrected. Good luck.
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October 16, 2023 3:11:19 PM
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@kingboss As PKRAJ ji said, no need to worry, it will reflect in AIS and TIS form if you got allotment.But if you will pay tax* then no need to worry even if you alloted 1 or 10 lots.
Off the topic, even you purchase or sell a single share it will reflect in AIS/TIS form
* Tax >> If you sell shares within 12 months= 15% tax >> If you sell shares after 12 months= 10% tax only on Long term capital gain above 1,00,000 rs. In a year.
This rates are subject to your income.
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October 16, 2023 6:03:37 PM
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From past financial year, even single share is reflecting in 26AS and AIS, but @kingboss no need of worry for clear source of money.
@diwan kapoor STCG should be at 15% and not at slab rate if the shares are sold through a recognized stock exchange.
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October 16, 2023 7:03:07 PM
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STCG is 15% and LTCG is 10% if gain is more than INR 1 lakh in a financial year, nothing to do with slab rate. If your financial year income is less than taxable amount then even this STCG, LTCG will be refunded or waived off
@Basuvr.. You are right.. STCG is 15℅ .. & LTCG is 10℅..but if the income of any one through all sources is fall in non taxable limit.. than there is no compulsion of paying tax /advance tax.. For your knowledge I am giving you a example of my family member.. Who's ITR are filled by my ca in my front.. My family member got the hni allotment in Medanta..and earn around 80000 profit on selling this allotment.. so 15℅ STCG was calculated.. But as the net income was up to the non taxable limit.. So no tax liability was there.. That's why I have written here .. tax slab..
Income Tax is only payable when you earn. Mere applying in the IPO is not a gain until you sold your shares. So no need to worry when apply for coming in Radar of Income Tax Department.
Please note that if your total earning including all type of income( salary, business, interest , capital gain etc.) after deduction is under 2.5 lacs then there is no tax on it.
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October 16, 2023 9:47:10 PM
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@Ayank Small correction approximately 3.3 lacs in place of 2.5 lacs after considering rebate of 12500 rs. (If old scheme of income tax selected)
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October 16, 2023 3:47:46 PM
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Its a close coordination between Registrar and Lead Manager. For the kind information Lead Manager choose the RTA and gives job to them. So you can better understand, how will decide and who will follow the instructions. There are some exception and activity which is beyond the control of RTA and then only Lead Manager will understand the situation and decide the finalisation of BOA with RTA.