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218. rohiitian |   Link |  Bookmark | February 7, 2024 10:19:10 PM
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@Tejas Pandya Since you have 1.4 Cr and 14 accounts (average of 10L / account), I think best will be regular BHNI (~10L). In my view this calculation will only work consistently if you have extra capital and can apply larger lotsize with low chance of competition

For eg, if an IPO has 14x oversubscription (eg. Tata tech, with min. BHNI size of 67 lots), and you try lets say 137 lots x 7 applications (~20L / lot); if you are the only one, yes you'll get assured allotment, but in case there are more people (let's say another 7 ppl), then your probability is halved compared to just applying all 14 in BHNI. You don't want to worsen the probability.

Hypothetically, if you had 2.8 Cr and 14 accounts, then what would be better than 14x BHNI would be to apply something like 14x 136 lots if the extra 1.4 Cr is not being utilized on any other IPO. An even more lucrative approach could be 7x 136 lots & 7x 137 lots giving you a great chance of 2 assured lots, while retaining regular probability worst case if the lotsize gets more subscriptions. Hope I'm making sense.
218.2. Sharvam |   Link |  Bookmark | February 7, 2024 10:59:07 PM
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@rohiitian 
Very well explained.
218.3. Rakcyt |   Link |  Bookmark | February 8, 2024 7:25:36 AM
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@Tejas Pandya  Sorry just saw the post abt your ban. You are one of the important member of CG , it may be an erroneous part of CG done unknowingly else they would have made it known to all....are they using AI now a days 😉😀
Keep advising always with your nice way dear .
217. RahulAgr |   Link |  Bookmark | February 7, 2024 10:54:04 PM
Hi
216. IPO Y.S. |   Link |  Bookmark | February 7, 2024 10:39:53 PM
Small HNI allotment chance 1:41
Big HNI allotment chance 1:12

How in Big HNI it is 1 out of 12. It's subscribed more than 60 times. Someone please tell.
216.1. ipo stonks |   Link |  Bookmark | February 7, 2024 10:45:00 PM
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In bHNI a person applies for shares worth 10L+ but gets allotment of only shares worth 2L+. Basically every investor applies for 5 times the allotment in bHNI category.
So the 60 times oversubscription is inflated 5 times.
This gets us to 12times real subscription.
215. DEVBULL |   Link |  Bookmark | February 7, 2024 3:42:27 PM
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Applied for 2 bHNI (77 Lots X 2 App)
215.23. Pangaj Don't be like me |   Link |  Bookmark | February 9, 2024 10:27:28 AM (300+ Posts)
Hi @DEVBULL

Got allotment?
215.24. Tejas Pandya |   Link |  Bookmark | February 9, 2024 5:51:01 PM
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@DEVBULL Sir update on allotment??
214. R.A. |   Link |  Bookmark | February 7, 2024 4:31:20 PM
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Off topic: I am posting it on the park page instead of epack as that's old page now.
Guys who is holding and wants to hold Epack shares for long term, can do tax loss harvesting if you are having taxable STCG. People can do this in last week of March 24.

what needs to be done?
Sell your shares at CMP, buy on next day on approx same price. Adjust loss against gains, and save tax for the period.

Thanks
Ravindra Agarwal
214.14. Manan Surana |   Link |  Bookmark | February 8, 2024 12:37:30 PM
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tax exempted upto 2.5 lakhs STCG, IF THERE IS NO OTHER INCOME
214.15. Rakcyt |   Link |  Bookmark | February 8, 2024 1:00:25 PM
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@R.A. Good thing is that we know various options now and the risk associated will all. Such discussions help generate best juice out of crude 😊
Some how I don't believe in selling on last day and buying in ew FY as if you end up selling in next FY then it's only BUT STCG and will not be LTCG. Just a thought
213. rohiitian |   Link |  Bookmark | February 7, 2024 11:53:22 AM
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@GrayIsTheNewBlack  Have you considered applying for an odd number of lots for BHNI? Similar to SME IPOs, where the allotment happens at a lottery for each level, the process is same for mainboard. So theoretically, even if the BHNI oversubscription is 10x, if you have 5 applications of lets say 107 lots and if no one else applies, you will get an assured allotment. Have studied several BOAs and this seems to be the case (but mainboard BOAs always appear to be on sample basis, so hard to get a feeling of what's a good lot size to ensure uniqueness).

When there is no competing quality IPO for your money, this seems like a good strategy as long as you get the eventual oversubscription right.
213.11. Seth. |   Link |  Bookmark | February 7, 2024 10:15:11 PM
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@MVP Exactly 5.5k crore was also too high to get allotment and now after tata 8k crore is next to impossible to earn good in BHNI in catagory.
213.12. Rakcyt |   Link |  Bookmark | February 8, 2024 7:11:03 AM
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@rohiitian  I applied 5 BHNI in Medassist ( 3.5x subscriptions) and was pretty sure of allotment and started dreaming 😀 but didn't get a single allotment .
At the end even you apply double you may get zero or with one you can bet assured allotment ... Lottery Means luck by chance !!!!
212. Rky |   Link |  Bookmark | February 7, 2024 10:36:44 AM
On one PAN Shni application got cancelled by rejecting UPI Mandate . Is bid remain live . Now fresh application on same PAN in retail or shni or bhni will be treated as valid or invalid keeping in mind the bid app may still be not cancelled or may be live
212.22. Rakcyt |   Link |  Bookmark | February 8, 2024 7:13:39 AM
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@Chhote Lal Absolutely with you dear young frnd
212.23. Vimal Garodia |   Link |  Bookmark | February 8, 2024 7:24:58 AM
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Sure Chhote Bhai.😊😊👍👍
211. DSGROW |   Link |  Bookmark | February 7, 2024 9:39:50 PM
Hi sirs, what is the probability allotment of BHNI here? Keeping fingers crossed.
210. Ankur kejriwal |   Link |  Bookmark | February 7, 2024 5:38:54 PM
Dear Respected members, In Mainline IPO in Shni & BHNI category, does applying higher lots than minimum required lots increases your chances of allotment, like how it happens in SME HNI category ?? I am of the opinion that it does not matter at all in Bhni if you apply for 10 lacs 50 lacs or 1 crores rupees of shares. All are treated at par like in Retail category of Mainline IPO. Can someone confirm this with surety
210.3. investormahesh |   Link |  Bookmark | February 7, 2024 9:28:46 PM
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In mainboard IPO there is no extra advantage in single application of more than minimum lot or lots in retail, SNII or BNII category if that category is oversubscribed APPLICATION WISE. In NII category of SME IPO u get advantage of higher probability of allotment and in case of very high application amount u can also get firm allotment of more than one lot
210.4. investormahesh |   Link |  Bookmark | February 7, 2024 9:34:10 PM
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Slight addition to above message. In NII category of SME IPO IF YOU APPLY FOR HIGHER NUMBER OF LOTS u get advantage of......
209. HappyToHelp |   Link |  Bookmark | February 7, 2024 5:32:25 PM
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Apeejay IPO approx figures:

Retail allotment chances 1:28
Small HNI allotment chance 1:41
Big HNI allotment chance 1:12
209.4. CJ ROCKS |   Link |  Bookmark | February 7, 2024 8:48:27 PM
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@Gopal lucky boy,Minimum 10 % technical rejection bhi hongi retail mein. After that final figure will be out. So there's slight improvement for allotment.
209.5. HappyToHelp |   Link |  Bookmark | February 8, 2024 9:35:03 AM
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Tentative allotment chances for Apeejay Surrendra Park Hotels Ltd Mainboard #IPO:

Retail: 2 out of 57
SHNI: 1 out of 41
BHNI: 1 out of 12

Applications received:

Retail: 17,51,948
SHNI: 90,000
BHNI: 53,150

Latest GMP: 41/- (26.45%) 📊🤞
208. Heritage Wale |   Link |  Bookmark | February 7, 2024 2:49:48 PM
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FF Applying Here

From Local Sourecs
208.16. KPCT |   Link |  Bookmark | February 9, 2024 9:09:07 AM
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@Saney  Everyone understand that even lord Krishna have to book Loss in stock market.
But @Ascension S point was valid.
In stand of clarifing It seems people jumped against him just fear of " kahi local source wala news milna bandh na ho jaye"
208.17. Heritage Wale |   Link |  Bookmark | February 9, 2024 9:27:46 AM
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@KPCT  and All members....

Don't fight with Each Others guys...

I will post here...Kuch Bandh Nahi Hoga......

Stay Updated for Today
207. thiru kumaran |   Link |  Bookmark | February 7, 2024 7:39:48 PM
In bnii and snii how the allotment done?
Retail is lottery basie if its oversubscribed.
Tnx in advance.
207.1. Paymzia |   Link |  Bookmark | February 7, 2024 7:49:03 PM
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Over subscribed everything is lottery
In all categories
206. Sandeep Kumar sethi |   Link |  Bookmark | February 7, 2024 7:24:57 PM
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Thanks to Newgen and surana ji ,, after postage your views on apeejay, I applied with little force 5 Bhni and 1 shni
205. Smile✍️ |   Link |  Bookmark | February 7, 2024 1:29:46 PM
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@Admin @ Chittorgarh.com Instead of direct ban to members like @Tejas Pandya and else send them a notification about error made by them, it mistake continues then only take out weapon of ban.
Thanks in advance
205.4. ValueSeeker |   Link |  Bookmark | February 7, 2024 6:32:39 PM
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It is entirely the admin's prerogative as to whom to ban or which post to delete and why.
However, the reason of ban is the least info and courtesy we deserve. It will also help to set an example as to what kind of posts can lead to a ban according to forum rules and admin expectations.
205.5. investormahesh |   Link |  Bookmark | February 7, 2024 7:15:50 PM
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@Ascension A person requires at least 500 likes to become IPO Guru. It is one of the criteria
204. SONMAYA |   Link |  Bookmark | February 7, 2024 5:00:48 PM
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*PARK HOTELS*

Approx break up applications :
07-02-2024 @4.00pm
As per NSE average

HNI above 10L - ~53,156(12.17x)

HNI 2-10L ~88,799(40.66x)

Retails - ~16,86,283(27.57x)
204.5. SONMAYA |   Link |  Bookmark | February 7, 2024 6:52:47 PM
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See on last day of any ipo I m postig subscription figure as and when I m getting...even I remains curious about this figure as I m also applying in big HNI..I M REGULARLY POSTING MSGS ABOUT SUBSCRIPTION FIGURE ...AS SOON ASI M GETTING...ANY HOW DON'T WORRY.I WILL BE GETTING REGULARLY FROM MY SOURCE AND I WILLBE POSTING REGULARLY...🙏
204.6. Gujju IPO |   Link |  Bookmark | February 7, 2024 7:05:55 PM
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@SONMAYA 
Please keep posting
203. Roysk |   Link |  Bookmark | February 7, 2024 5:13:00 PM
Chhote Lal ji, my retail application upi mandate i did not see. So i cancelled the application in broker page. Applied again and cleared the upi mandate. Later i saw the earlier upi mandate and declined to pay. However, i did not get confirmation for the upi mandate clearence. Broker is sending message to clear the mandate which i have already done for one application.
What is my status?
203.1. Chhote Lal |   Link |  Bookmark | February 7, 2024 6:46:39 PM
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In retail category, cancellation is permitted. Looking at what you mentioned in post, you are all good. Application for which you have authorised mandate will certainly be assessed for allotment. All the Best 👍
202. JSK✨ |   Link |  Bookmark | February 7, 2024 4:58:28 PM
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Hyundai said to be considering one of India’s biggest ever IPOs:

https://www.thehindubusinessline.com/companies/hyundai-said-to-be-considering-one-of-indias-biggest-ever-ipos/article67817294.ece
201. BullishMak |   Link |  Bookmark | February 7, 2024 4:14:51 PM
I have around 11 lakh fund, and 5 dmats. I applied 1 bHNI and 4 retail apps.

Can experts guide me if I did right or there should be any other combinations to increase the allotment chances?
201.2. Mr. Singh |   Link |  Bookmark | February 7, 2024 4:24:07 PM
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For normal size IPO usually sHNI is better than bHNI if fund is limited and you have multiple accounts.
I applied 5 sHNI and my allotment chances for rs 2L is (5/42)*100 = 11.9%
Your chance in 1bHNI for rs 2L is (1*5/61)*100 = 8.2%
Additionally you have 4 retail and chances for 15k is (4/30)*100 = 13.33% but this 15k is aprox 1/14 of 2L.
So 5sHNI is better than 1 bHNI in most of IPO
201.3. BullishMak |   Link |  Bookmark | February 7, 2024 4:51:35 PM
@PUSHPaa @Mr. Singh,

Thanks for responding on my query. One more question does bHNI subscription is same as shown on this website or it’s different if count application wise?
200. New learner IPO |   Link |  Bookmark | February 7, 2024 4:47:31 PM
applied 9 retail applications.
199. Gopal lucky boy |   Link |  Bookmark | February 7, 2024 4:33:15 PM (200+ Posts)
Good Evening..Let's see you tomm.. around 9:00 p.m news of allotted & non allotted..