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177. Kadwa Sach |   Link |  Bookmark | July 15, 2016 11:09:54 PM
Don''t invest in advance enzymes, the books are cooked.

Stay away retailers , a caution
177.1. Septa |   Link |  Bookmark | July 15, 2016 11:20:34 PM (4000+ Posts, 4600+ Likes)
yap booked cooked in the enzyme they manufacture and tax is paid not it Income tax department but paid to taxidermist so all be aware :)))))))
176. Kadwa Sach |   Link |  Bookmark | July 15, 2016 11:05:41 PM
Here experts are master in every industry from needle to ship.
Even poor Warren buffet did not understand a one sector ie technology. So , he never invested in tech sector.
But here experts are vishnu ke avatat
175. Kadwa Sach |   Link |  Bookmark | July 15, 2016 11:02:56 PM
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174. manjitsingh |   Link |  Bookmark | July 15, 2016 10:32:57 PM (900+ Posts, 900+ Likes)
If u want listing gain always wait QIB and HNI data on last date..... if huge subscription you will definitely get good listing gain ..... like quess
173. Sarah |   Link |  Bookmark | July 15, 2016 10:12:34 PM
I don''t understand why people on this forum are so hell bent to prove other members wrong about the IPO and its merits - demerits.

Its an investment opportunity and its a personal decision to apply or not rather making it a heated argument all the time about the valuation, Price band and the GMP/Listing price etc. Looks like ppl are more interested to assume stuff rather show casing them with the proof and the source of information and making its a matter of fake pride.

I have stop posting or commenting on this forum but I do visit this forum regularly to get some useful info.


Adios!
172. Aman |   Link |  Bookmark | July 15, 2016 9:05:36 PM
One thing I would like to discuss with all of you.

Had u noticed the PE multiple of Indian multinational and compared with their international parent PE multiple.

There are so much difference. Nestlé is trading at 125 PE multiple in india but in Switzerland it is trading below 20 PE. Same business but different valuation parameters. Same are with glaxo SmithKline , HUL etc.

Why they are so pricey in india because they are running a very unique business in India without much competition.

In addition, india is a consumption economy. So many analyst says so much in favor of this. I am a small person. It would not be wise , if I oppose their thoughts on consumption economy. We had seen the returns year after year in Asian paints, kansai Nerolac, bata India, Jubilant good works, HUL, Marico, Emami, dabur etc.

Had u remembered S H Kelkar.
What a stellar listing it had enjoyed last year being a first mover and also relates with india consumption story.

Advanced enzymes is one of that kind of stock. It is some how linked with consumer discretionary and can be kept as portfolio stock. This may even enjoy PE multiple of 50 , if it maintain its uniqueness in future. There are likely chances that , it may not face any substantial competition in near future.

People may laugh at me on probability of 50 PE multiple but it will become reality in near future.

No one had imagined the level of Asian paints, TTK prestige, HUL, Britannia but still they enjoy premium over broad market.

Have a thought on this before applying.
172.1. DCC |   Link |  Bookmark | July 16, 2016 12:47:04 AM
GOOD JOB AMAN..

CHITTORGARH BOARD IS POPULAR FOR THIS KIND OF WORK.

WELL DONE
171. MahiMahi |   Link |  Bookmark | July 15, 2016 9:00:47 PM
could anyone suggest some good stocks to invest in which give at least 50% return in next 6-12 months?
171.1. Sarah |   Link |  Bookmark | July 15, 2016 10:16:12 PM
Check this out.......

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171.2. DCC |   Link |  Bookmark | July 16, 2016 12:48:08 AM
SARAH

USEFUL LINK
170. Arjun Patel |   Link |  Bookmark | July 15, 2016 8:56:21 PM
Advance Enzyme must apply ipo What say Septa ji!!! Can You Find Fair rate using formula Keep growth rate high. I am positive on this.
170.1. Septa |   Link |  Bookmark | July 15, 2016 10:28:20 PM (4000+ Posts, 4600+ Likes)
i have already done Arjun patel if u check mine old post anyway i have pasted the post again for my good friend

67. Septa Jul 6, 2016 10:01:27 PM IST Reply
Advanced Enzyme Technologies Ltd IPO

Based on my analysis i give it a fair value of Rs1100 i have been very very conservative in my growth rate however IMO these growth rate of 14% to 11% is easily achievable by the company also.... IMO if issue is Rs900 approx i would not be surprised to see GMP of Rs350 and above eagleye and arjun patel will soon update the correct GMP my guess is the GMP will be in range of Rs 350 to Rs450 approx. Good issue will list on premium if the issue price is RS 900 Approx so do apply with full force.....
Initial Cash Flow: $70,40,00,000

Years: 1-5 6-10
Growth Rate: 60% 40%

Terminal Growth Rate: 5% Discount Rate: 9%

Shares Outstanding: 2,23,23,693 Margin of Safety: 25%
Debt Level:

Year Flows Growth Value
1 80,25,60,000 14% $73,62,93,578
2 90,68,92,800 13% $76,33,13,526
3 1,01,57,19,936 12% $78,43,22,155
4 1,13,76,06,328 12% $80,59,09,003
5 1,27,41,19,088 12% $82,80,89,985
6 1,42,70,13,378 12% $85,08,81,452
7 1,59,82,54,984 12% $87,43,00,208
8 1,79,00,45,582 12% $89,83,63,517
9 1,98,69,50,596 11% $91,48,47,251
10 2,20,55,15,161 11% $93,16,33,439


Terminal Year $2,31,57,90,919

PV of Year 1-10 Cash Flows: $8,38,79,54,114

Terminal Value: $24,45,53,77,770

Total PV of Cash Flows: $32,84,33,31,883

Number of Shares: 2,23,23,693

Intrinsic Value (IV): $1,471.23

Margin of Safety IV: $1,103.42

What Percentage of IV comes from 74%
the Terminal Value:
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169.5. Mukesh kothari |   Link |  Bookmark | July 16, 2016 6:05:54 PM
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169.6. Virat Kohli |   Link |  Bookmark | July 16, 2016 8:18:50 PM
MM is a novice CA
EE is a failed Engineer too
EE is using her celebrity status to insult MM, also interrupts others by asking more technical question. She is champion in copypasting the data received from market gurus.
Hope both adopt sensible postings.
168. Viraj |   Link |  Bookmark | July 15, 2016 8:10:09 PM
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Currant gmp Advanced Enzyme ..
167. mehul mehta |   Link |  Bookmark | July 15, 2016 6:17:05 PM
Sell on listing best strategy for advance enzy ipo But IF QIB NOT COME THEN MAY LIST AT DISCOUNT ALSO. BROKERAGE HOUSE AND SUBSCRIPTION FRM QIB AND HNI IMP
167.1. Sunil Patel |   Link |  Bookmark | July 15, 2016 6:53:35 PM (400+ Posts, 200+ Likes)
You are the reason we are not able to get the latest GMP
167.2. Sarah |   Link |  Bookmark | July 15, 2016 10:07:50 PM
Could you plz stop typing in "Upper Case".
166. mehul mehta |   Link |  Bookmark | July 15, 2016 6:07:59 PM
LET US CHECK BROKERAGE HOUSE VIEW HOWEVER 400 GMP IS NOT HEARD IN ANY WEBSITE OR TV OR FROM BROKER
165. Bigbull |   Link |  Bookmark | July 15, 2016 6:00:09 PM
It''s a investment multibagger stock like L&T.Buy it hold it for years for your old age illness.
164. Suresh bhai |   Link |  Bookmark | July 15, 2016 4:36:37 PM
Subscribe this IPO ..it is India''s 2 nd largest enzyme producers....slowly growth but least competition in that field.....so suggested to long term investers to invest in this IPO.
163. IPO SANTRA |   Link |  Bookmark | July 15, 2016 2:59:28 PM
5000 loss of L&t cover here. Sell Larsen at loss of 5000 make 5000 profit in enzyne
163.1. sugreev |   Link |  Bookmark | July 16, 2016 12:26:45 PM (200+ Posts, 200+ Likes)
i presume that you did not apply for L&T INFO!!!!!!!!
163.2. Haar Jeet |   Link |  Bookmark | July 17, 2016 10:08:29 AM
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I presume that u r wrong _sugreev,

He applied and wants more to add from market at low rate.

As l n t is reputed company nd no chance to list in discount. And will give good return in long run for sure
162. Naresh Ajmera |   Link |  Bookmark | July 15, 2016 12:54:20 PM
eagleye pls explain to us about hni - investment and how to invest for apply new ipo
161. Sunil Patel |   Link |  Bookmark | July 15, 2016 12:38:26 PM (400+ Posts, 200+ Likes)
East or west Eagleye is the best !!!

We need your comments, it is very useful.
160. rahulabhishek |   Link |  Bookmark | July 15, 2016 12:20:44 PM
septa sir wht accepatation how much scribes in retail
160.1. Septa |   Link |  Bookmark | July 15, 2016 12:35:32 PM (4000+ Posts, 4600+ Likes)
It will be same as Quess or more. However on retail dude it could be 11x to 12x give 35% is contribution for RII when Quess was only 10%
159. Tejas |   Link |  Bookmark | July 15, 2016 12:03:19 PM
Apply in the issue if offered at discount to its peers. Valuation is the king. Applying on the basis of GMP will drag you in loss if market falls drastically.
159.1. Tejas |   Link |  Bookmark | July 15, 2016 12:07:19 PM
GMP or Per application rate is for the people who wants to do grey market trade.
158. MT |   Link |  Bookmark | July 15, 2016 9:56:12 AM
ipo bharne jesa hai ye ?
158.1. eagle eyes n septas frendz |   Link |  Bookmark | July 15, 2016 6:18:32 PM
eagle eye donot go please dear...