Hello Can I apply both application that is share holders category ( under 2 lacs) and retail 1 lot both using ASBA facility ? ( Or do i have to apply 1 application in UPI and other using ASBA) My broker is groww..
I'm just planning to apply in hni category. Read like we have to mention the bid rate unlike retail we can't go for cut off rate. Then what should be the rate we should quote for? If i quote less than majority of the applications does it mean that my application might be rejected for quoting a lower rate? What should be the nominal bid rate. And can i apply in hni from asba and retail from zerodha? Do they allow it?
Hni application you need to apply from Bank ASBA, From zerodha you can apply only retail application and shareholders application of amount upto 2 lacs only.
HNI application you must apply with price 230 for allotment else you will not get allotment if you apply with lower price band.
333.2. lokes| Link| Bookmark|
January 23, 2022 7:07:31 PM
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@deepblue: No you can't apply in both HNI and retail category together in any ipo from single person (single PAN) demat account. You can apply in any one category. Regarding Bid price, you need to enter always highest price only for any IPO for HNI category manually, as cut off option is not applicable for HNI category, so here you need to enter 230 price in HNI category and if you are applying from retail, then you can choose cut-off.
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January 23, 2022 11:55:09 AM
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If any one is afarid of the buget , THEN also apply for long term return All the stocks of Adani have given good returns , also like the reliance , Dmart etc
Modi's budget will always be adani friendly. All adani stocks including this IPO will be multibagger till 2024. Adani enterprise 300 to 1800 in one year. Trading at over 200/250 p/e. Adani wilmer 230 can be 1000 , can be 1200 , can be 1500. Sky is the limit. Apply with full force and don't sell on listing. Keep holding could be the strategy.
@gjy .... you mean govt forcing fund house , Lic.. to buy adani group shares enabling adani to become among world top 10 wealthy and may included in nifty50 too....???
@ Cautious... govt forcing fund house , DII , FII to invest in LIC as ipo size is massive around 75,000 - 80,000 cr. Adani... no need to push anybody. Can't tell about world top 10 but it is already India's 2nd most wealthy leaving behind birla,tata.
Whatever the valuations and fundamentals, Adani is a big brand in india.I remember hdfc amc came 3 to 4 years back,then everybody applied mainly because of brand name.The listing gain was 60 percentage.so imo apply with full force.
@lokes I have a fund of 20 lacs and also a shareholder of adani enterprises Can you tell me how can i distribute my fund in normal /shareholder/Hni category
And my other family members demate account how much lots apply in shareholder category for better allotment
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January 22, 2022 1:51:57 PM
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@navdeep and everyone: Regarding funds allocation, it all depends on final subscription of HNI/shareholder quota since allotment is proportionate. One thing is sure that everyone should apply in retail category 1 lot from each different PAN account. Then remaining amount distribution for shareholder category application can be done as per assumed subscription in shareholder or HNI quota. Let the ipo be open, then approx subscription can be discussed, many including @eagleeye may post approx subscription figures in both hni and shareholder category, based on that, amount distribution can be done.
Just taking older example, in sbi cards ipo, shareholder quota was around 978 crores and it was subscribed around 23 times in shareholder category (means whoever applied for more than 23 lots in shareholder category were guaranteed allotted 1 lot, whoever applied below 23 lots were allotted via lottery and whoever applied above 23 lots were allotted proportionate). HNI quota in sbi cards was around 1385 crore and it was subscribed around 43 times. In adani wilmar ipo, shareholder quota is 360 crores and HNI quota is 470 crore. So some hint can be taken from above example.
Final Subscription depends on many factors like gmp/market conditions/demand/awareness/new shareholders accounts just for ipo etc etc. Allotment in HNI/shareholder category will be proportionate mode, same as informed about allotment process, in below post : https://www.chittorgarh.com/article/hni-ipo-application-guide-nii-allotment-benefits/532/
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January 23, 2022 6:51:36 PM
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since many people are asking, so my rough estimation of subscription now is around 40-50X in shareholder category and 80-100X in HNI category. Remaining lets see once ipo opens and on third day 1-2pm. I feel it can even cross this number but chances of lesser subscription is less , considering no other good mainboard ipo during that and if gmp of around 25% sustains till then and looks like there are many shareholders, and even retailer can apply 1 lot in retail and more 2 lakh also in shareholder category from same account.
@aniketiaf @lokes guys what are your views on Hero Motocorp. I am holding 35 shares of it with avg around 3300/-.
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January 23, 2022 6:46:50 PM
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@windy: sorry I don't track it, but looking at its chart, you seems to bought initially at higher levels as your avg price is still 3300, may be you didn't averaged it with more quantity around 2400 levels. Now it's increasing from 1 month, and holding strong even in week market, probably it will cross 3k upto budget or till quarterly results..... better to have stoploss of 2990 something once it crosses 3050 on closing basis and then keep holding to get your price. Stoploss is important to protect capital if share price reversing again. Auto sector is doing good recently in comparison to markets.
50% listing gains for sure ..and 500+ within 3 months... Definitely apply .... listing will be after the budget so bull run possible in short term as well. Apply , sell on listing... accumulate and sit for 6 months.
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January 21, 2022 9:13:56 PM
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Total issue size: 3600 crore Employee quota: 107 cr , Shareholder quota: 360 cr , Net issue: 3133 cr Retail quota: 35% of net issue: 1096.55 crore means approx 7.33 lakh application form (lot wise) So i think it should be subscribed approx 4.5 to 5.5 times overall in retail category, as per no other ipo during that time and its gmp.
Respect member adani विल्मर में शेअर होल्डर कोटे में अलॉटमेंट के कितने चांस है 1 रिटेल में 1 होल्डिंग कोटे मे लगाई जाए ।मेरे पास 11 एकाउंट है 33 एप्लिकेशन कि अमाउंट
Param patel sir,I got this GMP from some reputed ipo sites.I think GMP may vary from place to place.some where 70 and some where 100.On an average basis it might be 100.You please Post the GMP from your place.It May be helpful for the forum members.
Sir GMP changes every second like stock price and this sites update it once in a day or twice in a day also sometimes post false GMP if you want to know correct GMP contact your local broker don't believe in such sites GMP I know you are just trying to provide information to all the other members but due to fake GMP some newbie might get trapped I hope you take this in positive way
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January 22, 2022 9:53:48 PM
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@Param ji,
Appreciate your way of response, such a respectful one. Great.. 👌👌
Respect member adani विल्मर में शेअर होल्डर कोटे में अलॉटमेंट के कितने चांस है 1 रिटेल में 1 होल्डिंग कोटे मे लगाई जाए ।मेरे पास 11 एकाउंट है 33 एप्लिकेशन कि अमाउंट है।
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January 22, 2022 12:10:37 PM
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@ashok: Once IPO will open, then through any bank ASBA mode, you can apply in employee category. It will have some option to apply for employee category also. Employees can apply upto 5 lakh amount but they should not bid using UPI mode (as mentioned in RHP) so apply from bank ASBA only. Employees can also apply (means from same PAN) in other categories as mentioned by me in point 1 OR point 2 in below post, in addition to employee category. https://www.chittorgarh.com/ipo/ipo_discussions.asp?a=1173&c=491211&ap=0
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January 22, 2022 12:37:23 PM
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@ashok: There is no lock-in period for employees, they can sell after listing. Only for anchor investor, lock-in period is there for 30 days. Regarding eligible employee, mostly using PAN number only, they will check/match from employee database i think. Below is mentioned in RHP for eligible employees:
Permanent employees, working in India, of our Company or our Promoters or Subsidiaries and a Director of our Company, whether whole time or not, as on the date of filing of this Red Herring Prospectus with the RoC, who is eligible to apply under the Employee Reservation Portion under applicable law, but not including Directors who either themselves or through their relatives or through any body corporate, directly or indirectly, hold more than 10% of the outstanding Equity Shares of our Company.