433.2. lokes| Link| Bookmark|
January 25, 2022 2:25:23 PM
IPO Guru (4400+ Posts, 5100+ Likes)
I sold it at 1100 after keeping stoploss (and it hit) long back, I informed here in forum, when had discussions with @Have faith.
One general thing that everyone can note is, please keep stoplosses either in broker account or in mind and sell the shares when its not performing as expected. Don't let your emotions come in between. I also learned it after experiencing fall in 2018/2019 after 2017 run. With stoploss only, i sold my nykaa both lots at 2150 and 1980 (when it was not able to hold 2k levels), sold my zomato at 128 (when it was not able to hold 130 levels) We need to know the supports as per charts and share movement and if share is reversing again and again then better keep strict stoploss and sell, either to book/protect profits or either to cut down losses. Same way i sold kims at 1365 when stoploss hit (it moved around 1500 later), sold clean science at 2590 , sold tatva chintan at 2640 after avg. results and many other recent ipos (some are still holding). I am again buying / will buy some of these at low levels. I accept sometimes share prices reverses after hitting stop losses but many times it saves us from continuous fall. If you are too much convinced with some share then you can buy again also at lower price instead of keep holding it when its going down for longer. Stop loss price judging also is important thing.
As I have already told keep own your SL. I have keep SL 1000.
I think sell at CMP.
433.7. ipobull| Link| Bookmark|
January 25, 2022 10:37:22 PM
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It was expected from a company like Cartrade. Its clients have so many options nowadays. I was never interested in this company once I read it's IPO prospectus.
433.8. lokes| Link| Bookmark|
January 26, 2022 8:00:04 PM
IPO Guru (4400+ Posts, 5100+ Likes)
@MehulStk: yes i use gtt orders in zerodha platform for both new buying and shares selling (stoploss+actual selling) and its very nice and useful feature and helped me a lot to sell/buy shares at good prices.
@lokes if i give gtt sell order in zerodha i have to give e dis otp every day ? Or otp is asked once only ? I don't want to give poa to any broker.
433.10. lokes| Link| Bookmark|
January 26, 2022 8:33:35 PM
IPO Guru (4400+ Posts, 5100+ Likes)
@investormahesh: it looks like you need to authorize once when GTT will be triggered. I have given POA already long back to them so i don't need so i am not aware much about this. You can check Note 1 in below first link or you can call zerodha support and check. https://support.zerodha.com/category/trading-and-markets/gtt/articles/what-is-the-good-till-triggered-gtt-feature https://support.zerodha.com/category/trading-and-markets/gtt/articles/how-can-i-use-the-gtt-feature
Paytm and Cartrade CEOs should be stoned in the streets for selling at wild multiples.
433.15. sbipo| Link| Bookmark|
January 27, 2022 10:32:03 AM
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@NEETINIPO, Sorry to disturb u and off the topic question,the other day u told that in buyback,theres no value of fraction,suppose I have 2 TCS share to tender in BB and AR is 60%,then 1 share would be accepted or both share since tendered share is only 2,curious to know, Thanks
433.16. Param Patel| Link| Bookmark|
January 27, 2022 11:11:05 AM
IPO Mentor (700+ Posts, 400+ Likes)
@sbipo same question posted on buyback page but I don't know why msg got deleted
433.17. lokes| Link| Bookmark|
January 27, 2022 12:01:41 PM
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@KDForIPO : i sold them to book profits at good price or to protect profits from further fall. Yes Clean science is good for long term and i added it back. I mentioned what i bought again in below link in last comment. you can check. https://www.chittorgarh.com/ipo/ipo_discussions.asp?a=1173&c=491558&ap=0
@sbipo: it may be 1 share accepted from 2 if acceptance ratio is 60% approx but am not so sure. you guys can post in tcs buyback pages, someone else can also reply if knowing/experienced in past with small quantity.
Where Will I find PE of Adani wilmer? just to compare with other peer group PE
432.1. Arca| Link| Bookmark|
January 27, 2022 11:53:29 AM
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In Rhp & dilip davda review.
431. Learner SK| Link| Bookmark|
January 27, 2022 11:42:31 AM
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in SBI ASBA, only 2 categories are showing, individual and employees. How to select shareholder category? If I select individual, it will go to RII / NII and not to SH. Am I missing something?
430. Gopinathji| Link| Bookmark|
January 27, 2022 9:45:24 AM
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Market ka mood kharab hai Fir bhi kon kon adani wilamar apply karne wale hai ???? Aur kitne lot apply karege ?? PLZ answers Me to full force apply karne wala hu aur app ??
Since credit of allotted shares will be on 7th Feb, after union budget announcement, expecting market will come back. I am applying and if it happens like sbi cards then will hold for sure.
430.3. Gopinathji| Link| Bookmark|
January 27, 2022 11:06:37 AM
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Muje nhi lagta sbi card jesa isme hoga Market itna crash hai fir bhi gmp 38 hai
@PSR, @MITTAL are you applying in this? Thank you,
428. Black Swan| Link| Bookmark|
January 27, 2022 10:36:23 AM
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Guys no need to worry. Fundamentally nothing has changed in past fortnight. I will surely apply for Adani Wilmar FF in all my accounts. Retail and SH Also good opportunity to buy fundamentally good stocks. Markets will recover shortly. Its never a linear fall
Will apply 50 applications retail and one shareholder quota with rest of the money Will this strategy work
426. ipobull| Link| Bookmark|
January 27, 2022 10:06:55 AM
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Today I wanted to trade off my most boring stock IRFC with Adani Wilmar. I sold 1500 shares of IRFC @ 23 by making loss as I was holding it since IPO in expectation of upsurge in stock price. And will apply for additional 2 lots of Adani Wilmar @ 230 in SH category and hope for getting at least 1 additional lot. I am sure AW will reach 260 before IRFC reaches 26. I think IRFC is most boring stock of markets. Do you have idea of a more boring stock? Just check for yourselves.
in SBI ASBA Should one make two different applications (1 for sh and 1 for retail) or one single application will have two category options as retail can be sh?
422. rsk| Link| Bookmark|
January 27, 2022 7:13:28 AM
IPO Mentor (600+ Posts, 300+ Likes)
Wilmar International is listed on SGX for last several years. Trades at S$4.20, EPS of 0.355 c and PE of about 11. Singapore Govt does not hold/own a single share in Wilmar International and it is more of Indonesian/Malaysian commodity play, Palm, Rice,Sugar etc Singapore Govt owns many listed on SGX, namely DBS, SIA, Singtel, Capitaland, Singapore Technologies, Olam (commodity play) Many property REITS like Acsendas, Mappletree. Many plantations have several violations such as environment, Human resource, unfair trading etc etc. Health conscious people do not buy packaged oils/ Flours etc as they may have preservatives etc. As most people have said this is commodity play with Khiladi Kumar as brand ambass. Personally had bought Atta once and not satisfied with product.
Should be a safe bet for long long term. Unexciting.
420. ipobull| Link| Bookmark|
January 25, 2022 10:49:15 PM
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Dear friends, I was just seeing mesages from losers on what to do with Cartrade. Just follow a simple principle. If a stock cannot raise its head above water, i.e., cannot close above it's IPO price for at least 2 days in the first week of its listing, just exit the stock with stop loss or a limit order to limit your losses and accept the reality that you have made a mistake and look for better opportunities to make up for the loss. I think exceptions will be rare.
This algorithm doesn't work even for recent Sapphire.
420.2. Jetha Lal| Link| Bookmark|
January 25, 2022 11:30:21 PM
IPO Guru (1000+ Posts, 2100+ Likes)
The foolish always thinks others as foolish. Every stock is individual stock and needs to be dealt accordingly. Market has shown mirror to many market gurus. Your this formula will fail miserably and it happened in past too. Classic example was "Angel One".
@ipobull Your contention is reasonably well even if there may be some exceptions. An IPO is an unknown horse . Betting on an unknown horse which is limping is too much speculative.
This rule cant be ruled out foolishly.. One who teach lesson to other on cartrade buisness model and potential when he advised others to still exit during 1150, are says` i dont hold cartrade `after exit near 900/800 label seems...cartrade and paytm both are biggest disaster in recent.
420.5. ipobull| Link| Bookmark|
January 26, 2022 2:58:48 PM
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@Jetha Lal & VMaru, Read the last sentence of my post.
Ibobull ur wrong. Correct is we have to observe couple of quarterly result and then interpret decision making.... Car trade is in loss only due to esop esle there would be profit.... After 6 months esop will be over and then it should perform..... Ipobull if anyone follow u will miserably fail.... Eg angel one, sbi cards, anupam rasayan, easy my trip..
@Cem choo sir cartrade spending more than 50% of there revenue in esop scheme look at there balance sheet, isn't it look fishy. they are paying almost 5 cr. salary to there CEO, Q. revenue near to 80 cr & without any asset total asset of company is nearly 1000 cr. out of 900 cr. is goodwill its hard to digest that current market cap nearly 3500 cr. at time of ipo mkt cap was nearly 7000 cr. do you think company deserves that much valuation with very very low margin. ps : Sold 6 lots at 1200
420.8. ipobull| Link| Bookmark|
January 26, 2022 5:01:47 PM
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@Cem Choo, I think you have coiped your name from Chem Cho who is a wonderful guy. You too read my last sentence. There can be exceptions. I can count you at least 10 stocks from last 6 months, who have followed the trend given by me. By the way, I look at quarterly results very thoroughly. I am a big investor in Easymytrip. But I cannot block my money in a faltu company like Cartrade for a year in expectation of good quarterly results. If there is real turnaround in any good company, I will be interested in it. In stock markets, one has to follow some principles, but be flexible, not rigid like you. A good manager always uses his funds intelligently, does not block it like you. Finally, I am not forcing anyone to follow my principle, just expressed my honest understanding of the markets. With this principle I have made sizeable profit every month since Covid turmoil of 2020. I am happy about it and carrying on nicely in both primary and secondary markets and my confidence has only grown. Thanks to my friends who have understood me correctly.
420.9. lokes| Link| Bookmark|
January 26, 2022 7:58:09 PM
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@ipobull: No idea what you meant by your word "losers" here but in my opinion, please don't use such words here for anyone. Anyone can loose money in market but "loser" is not the right word to use for someone.
420.10. ipobull| Link| Bookmark|
January 26, 2022 10:41:02 PM
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@losers, Obviously, I meant losers in Cartrade, which I referred to. If I lose in a stock, Iam a obviously a loser and if I gain Iam a gainer. I don't one should have qualms about that. And the beauty of losing is that you learn a lot. Please do not mind such trivial affairs when you are in markets. There are many big things we can do.
I understand brightcom group has announced bonus shares; is it good to buy tomorrow. If yes what is the record date. Request for members feedback. Thank you.
After seeing zomato anchor book who would have ever thought that price will be more than 50% down from anchor allotment price. So anchor book is not anymore a criteria to judge a company and its fundamentals atleast for me.
@killerr About link you have posted, is this technical issue or why he is removed from this forum??? I am sure he is someone who got great command on stock analysis.
How much oversubscription is expected in SH category? It will help small retail investor to decide whether they should skip or manage fund to apply in SH category.
417.1. lokes| Link| Bookmark|
January 25, 2022 2:57:23 PM
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@rajesh: you can check in below link regarding approx subscriptions. Remaining depends on market conditions during ipo time. https://www.chittorgarh.com/ipo/ipo_discussions.asp?a=1173&c=491293&ap=0
Below are other info links , just pasting for references to everyone : Shareholder category applications : https://www.chittorgarh.com/ipo/ipo_discussions.asp?a=1173&c=491211&ap=0 Employee category: https://www.chittorgarh.com/ipo/ipo_discussions.asp?a=1173&c=491270&ap=0
417.2. Johny| Link| Bookmark|
January 26, 2022 12:31:11 AM
IPO Mentor (800+ Posts, 1000+ Likes)
Currently SH is expected around 30-40x. Earlier it was expected around 55x.
Apply 1 lot retail from all accounts and 1 full force SH application from any one account.
Dear Friends. I want to check if SH quota is oversubscribed by 40 times, what are chances of allotment who applies less than 40 lots? will it be lottery or proportionate basis for this?
417.4. lokes| Link| Bookmark|
January 26, 2022 7:53:56 PM
IPO Guru (4400+ Posts, 5100+ Likes)
@rajesh: i already gave you link above in my reply and i have already informed about your new query in that link. Request you to go through my both comments in this link properly, you will get your answer for sure : https://www.chittorgarh.com/ipo/ipo_discussions.asp?a=1173&c=491293&ap=0
@Rajesh Chaval - Overall allotment in shareholder quota will be like HNI allotment i.e. Proportionate. So if shareholder quota is oversubscribed by 40x then anyone applying more than 40 lots will get confirm allotment while applications below 40 lots will get allotment based on lottery.