Lots of labour working in Adani Wilmar which has no demat AC not have knowledge of stock market...same like in coal India...If u have not applied don't be negative for others ....
They have made mistake by keeping enormous employee quota. Size should be less by at least 50 %.
694.3. phrao| Link| Bookmark|
January 31, 2022 7:03:19 PM
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@Manjithsingh ji applied 50Lots in 2SH category And 8 retail application's
I do not agree with you because the company does not easily confirm the category without estimation calculations, stand in queue in the sun all the day for five hundred rupees ,
@manjitsingh, your reason is unacceptable. Till now there is no IPO dates announced for LIC. But they are asking their employees to create demat A/C. And asking the policy holders to update PAN numbers. They are teaching their employees and policy holders well ahead. But why the big Adani group missed in this case? Either the management missed it or else the employees were not interested.
@ prabhar ...Adani knows that they will get the required money easily why they involve in labour work by opening demat accounts and guiding there employees..LiC is big jumbo issue of 70000 crore so they have to start labour work today to be a successful issue....Grey market still 28 rs and for emplo it is 28+21 = 49 ...so they miss this golden chance due to lack of knowledge.....
@manjitsingh, So, you want to convey that Adani employees are getting less salary? Nowadays so many cheap demat account providers are there in market. They might used those. If the issue gives just 10% profit itself (1500 rupees per lot) will be more and more enough for 1 year demat charges. Earlier lot of small companies (compared with Adani group) were listed in IPO. But those were subscribed much enough on employees category. In 2009, when Adani Power came for IPO, 0.11x was the subscription figure on employee category. From that lesson also they not learnt anything? And regarding LIC, when it comes for subscription we may come to know the real appreciation.
@manjitsingh, Its not like that. Even myself applied for 3 lots - just for listing gain. It can't be my portfolio stock. Just look Adani Power. 12 years before got listed for 100 rupees. Current price 108 rupees. Nowadays we people thinking SH is the shortest way to get allotment.
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February 7, 2022 2:03:39 PM
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I got Total 5 Lots
IN FRONT OF CROCODILE FESTIVAL
I KNOW , EMPLOYEES SUBSCRIPTION 50%ONLY (They're expecting-10% listing may be expected)
5 application for 1 lot retail 3 application for 11 lot in share holder quota same dmat account applied for above Applied for 5 dmat account. 1)..Allotment chances??? 2). multiple applications counted??
3 dmat account 1+11 lot 2 dmat account 1
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January 31, 2022 2:56:23 PM
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688.2. K.Atar| Link| Bookmark|
February 1, 2022 10:03:31 AM
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Govinda Ji, Regarding your two lot application: a) If you have applied from 1 demat then you may have 1 lot or ZERO. b) If you have applied from 2 demat then you may have 1 lot each or ZERO.
In case of oversubscription in retail, applying more than lot stands no advantage - in future please apply one lot only and do not block your money unnecessarily - (i) if you have one demat only, (ii) if you have two demat then apply separately to test your luck.
Allotment basis is computerized (as per coded criterion laid down) Lottery system in retail category. Good luck.
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February 1, 2022 9:52:59 AM
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Upcoming IPOs with Shareholder's Quota
-JK Files & Engineering : Raymonds -SBI Mutual Fund : State Bank of India Spice cargo: Spice Jet Bajaj Energy: Bajaj Hindustan HDB Finance: HDFCBANK JIO, REL RETAIL: RELIANCE Jeevansathi: Infoedge
Buy 1 share of parent companies to avail benefit in IPO
*Eligibility date will be date of filing RHP
686. Ankur Goel| Link| Bookmark|
January 31, 2022 10:22:35 PM
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Adani ne setting kar le hogi. Share value girane to nahi dega aur discount per bhi list hua to march tak double kar dega.
Applied in Retail+ Shareholder categories from two account. Seems Shareholder quota will have tough allotment. How much chance there for single lot in shareholder quota?
Retail 3.92x, Others (share holders) 33.33x I need a clarification here, whether Shareholders category will come under Retail if applied below Rs 2 Lakhs or is it a separate category. In RHP I read, if SH or Empl category is oversubscribed it will be considered as spill over all other category except QIB. I have applied for 13 lots in RII category. Whether I will get 3 or 4 lots or else combined with SH category and allotment will be done ?
685.1. K.Atar| Link| Bookmark|
February 1, 2022 3:03:37 AM
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somsundar ji, Those who had AEL share as on 19th Jan they were entitled to apply in shareholder category as well apart from usual retail category. It is a distinct category and allotment is proportionate basis (the more higher you bid the more chances of getting allotment), same like HNI.
Supposing you have applied in retail category only and assuming that you didn't applied in shareholder category, even if you had applied for 1 lot, the chances are same, since allotment criteria is LOTTERY. So you have no advantage in applying for 13 lots. Good luck and may you get the lot.
You may wanna go through this link below to better understand the concept : https://www.chittorgarh.com/article/hni-ipo-application-guide-nii-allotment-benefits/532/
Hi, What will happen to Employees share as this category not fully subscribed. Also I have applied 29 Lot in Share Holder Category, What is the chance to get 1 lot (If Employee Share move to Shared Holder Category)
Applied for 50+ lots in HNI, I guess I will get up to 1 lot. I want to understand from those who claim to have applied for 1000s of lots under HNI category (total investment in Crores). Is there a market for taking loans for this kind of investment? If so, is it something like the grey market? I don't think there's any established funding mechanism for these sort of transactions (banks or NBFCs). You don't have to give names etc, of course, but just want to understand the nature of such funding/loans and whether it exists. Thanks.
@NITEENIPO - you mean just a generic Google search of IPO funding or some specific thread/posts about IPO funding on this forum?
680.3. Jetha Lal| Link| Bookmark|
January 31, 2022 10:11:23 PM
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S ss ji swagat hai aapka equity market aur IPO bazaar me. Thoda waqt bitaiye kaafi kuchh pata chalega. Ashneer Grover ka band baj gaya IPO funding ki wajah se hi aur aap keh rahe hai Grey market aur IPO funding hi nahi hota😂😂😂
680.4. K.Atar| Link| Bookmark|
January 31, 2022 10:21:29 PM
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No disrespect but this forum has even those who can only hold only upto listing and has billionaires also (you will get to know if you spend time on this forum). Here mostly self funded HNI went all in, funded hnis shied away from it just coz of..
According to RHP page 93, Adani Wilmar has a P/E of 36 (230/6.37). Its peers have P/E: HUL-70, Brittania-47, Tata cons-79, Dabur-59, Marico-54, Nestle-90. Although they have conformably forgotten (?) other competitive peers, like ITC-19 (no more just a tobacco company), P/E of 36 means not much downside for AW, considering a PAT of 727 cr p.a. But the weak market sentiment may drag it dawn to sub-200 levels, i.e., P/E<30. Any such levels are good for strong accumulation. Considering the brand value, market valuation and market sentiment i have applied in retail category. Irrespective of allotment, I will start accumulation post listing if P/E falls sub-30 levels.
Bhai middle to top order employee have lock in period and bottom to middle level employee are not interested in share market and they dont have proper knowledge of market
Thank you very much for your enlightening response. To be honest, I am really surprised to see such low subscription in spite of the discount. Once again I wholeheartedly appreciate your readiness to help me understand the reasons.
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January 31, 2022 6:03:43 PM
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They are thinking 1 present market conditions not good 2. Highly priced (FV Rs.1) 3.No listing gains (after 21discount also)