What is the view at the current price (i.e 363) any chances for up more near level of 400? or sold the holding at current price and booked the profits...
Adani Wilmar Q3 net profit rises 66% & revenue up 40% as per news.
Share recovered from lows after Q3 results announcement & it was up over 2% now.
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February 14, 2022 2:33:52 PM
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results are out and are good....but since share already had good run up in last week and markets also falling a lot so i don't think it will show further up movement in share prices soon....once things will stabilize then share price later may move again after some retracement
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February 14, 2022 2:34:18 PM
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Ok. Thanks.
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February 14, 2022 3:43:32 PM
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@Finsure @Gavin @lokes Thanks for sharing your views!
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February 14, 2022 5:22:16 PM
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@All Time:
Results are excellent when compared both YoY and QoQ inspite of inflation in the previous quarter.
Standalone EPS increased to 2.1 last quarter. If we annualized EPS it will be 7.5 For FY23, it may reach even 10.5 to 11 if we consider even 50% growth in profits.
So if we consider for FY22:- a) 50 PE it should trade at 375 b) 60 PE it should trade at 450 c) 70 PE it should trade at 525
If we consider for FY23 on a conservative EPS of 10:- a) 50 PE it should trade at 500 b) 60 PE it should trade at 600 c) 70 PE it should trade at 700
But compared to FMCG companies like HUL, Dabur, Marico its EBITDA and Net Profit Margins are less but their Revenue and PAT are growing in single digits or low double digits whereas Adani Wilmar Revenue and PAT are growing in excess of 30 to 40%.
It has largest market share and therefore Market leader in Edible oil business with Market share of 18.6%. Their FMCG and Industrial essentials business is growing exponentially every year.
AW Revenues for FY22 will be in excess of 55000 cr and their Market capitalization is less than 49000 cr. So Market cap to sales is less than 1 where as Paytm/Zomato which are loss making are trading in excess of 15 times Price to Sales. Agreed cannot compare business models of these varied companies but why they should be given so much of valuation in spite of loss making. Is it not a Food for thought.
Just imagine if they are able to expand GPM and NPM by reducing expenditure and Finance costs their profit will grow multi fold and stock will become very cheap on forward looking basis and markets are indeed forward looking. With IPO process they are retiring their debt by almost 60% and Debt/Equity will be less than 0.25, so their Finance costs of 143 cr last quarter will be flown to profits directly and this will get reflected in future quarters as well. Also their group company Adani Enterprises is famous for making inorganic acquisitions and they have collected proceeds from the IPO for the same.
Last but not the least: This AW comes from Adani brand and Gautam Adani being the richest person in India right now overtaking Mukesh Ambani is connected to political circles. Projects and approvals will be done faster. Their stocks (Adani Enterprises, Adani Gas, Adani Green, Adani Transmission) have all given multifold returns in last 2 yrs. In some of the cases in excess of 10 times.
Risks factors to consider mostly from Macro factors than any company specific:- 1. Fed hikes (upto 4 rate hikes in this CY factored by market). If inflation does not come under control in next 6 months then 1 or 2 more hikes can be expected. 2. Russia-Ukraine war : Chances are slim as world powers will diffuse the situation by convincing Russia and NATO/Ukraine also have to agree to some of Russia's demands. This may go on for some days and hopefully it should resolve by this month end. If war really happens then no stock can escape the selloff that happens globally even though probability of that happening are rare. World cannot afford any war at this stage especially after 2 years of corana pandemic. Hopefully better sense prevails for global peace and harmony. 3. Crude oil increase in excess of $100 either due to war or OPEC not increasing production or US-Iran deal called off.
Note: Market is best teacher and we students will always be never ending learners. Never ever invest more than 20% of your wealth in Stock market unless market valuations are mouth watering like pandemic year 2020.
@venture stack parteners, Results is Good 👍of Adani wilmar. Please advice at present market trend regarding adani wilmar hold or saleor wait. Please share your views. Thanks
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February 15, 2022 10:08:17 AM
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Thanks @LokeshChiru! The information you've shared would come in handy to a lot of people who may be wanting to get into the stock for a long haul.
Greetings @DharmendraSharma! The stock is currently in the overbought territory witnessing high volatility so wait for it to stabilise. While the company fundamentals and results have been good, the current data is insufficient to technically take a fully informed decision for a long haul investment. Wait and watch by being on the sidelines for now!
Need Guidance Buy Now or Wait for the fall and What should be the buying range. someone's not letting this go below 350
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February 14, 2022 8:35:52 AM
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Price band 10% from today
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February 13, 2022 9:54:10 AM
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The government on Saturday brought down the effective duty on crude palm oil import to 5.5 per cent from 8.25 per cent earlier, a move which will help control cooking oil prices and support domestic processing companies.
Its only for state elections , after that it will be back to usual duty like 18 or 24 per cent .
1244.2. Lokesh Chiru| Link| Bookmark|
February 14, 2022 12:35:35 AM
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@Cautious Proprio:- Don't give wrong info if you don't know. Reduced duty is valid upto 30th Sep, 2022 and can be extended further as well based on the situation at that point of time where as state elections results will be announced on 10th Mar.
After election doesn't mean immediately after election..maybe after few months like sept or oct...its not petrol or desel types which is certain soon after poll..
You like Modi or not, we should appreciate inflation is largely contained at range of 5% in last 7 years with some quick actions on imports/exports. Some seasonal items may go up and oil may go up here and there. But overall inflation in the range of 5%. This is good for common man. Remember the old days of 14% inflation.
Now back to politics.. :D
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February 15, 2022 8:56:02 AM
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@poweruser these data of 5 percent 7 percent are there just to make people fool or to make headlines in so called media channels....in real life common man is badly affected with inflation ....poor class gets free majority of things ...rich class does not get affected ....only middle class suffers ...
General people unable to understand or dont aware how can wholesale inflation continued hovering near 15/16 percent and retail inflation cooked near 5/6 since few years..
At what price you sold? My personal opinion, it may stay range bound today, and close near previous closing if not above. I dont think LC is possible, not unless results on Monday are bad/average.
It can blast up on Monday, if results are good. So you can re-enter at lesser price you sold at, if possible.
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February 11, 2022 10:48:46 AM
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Today one time it reached 350 near but I spend time thinking and it came up easily 😢
1242.7. lokes| Link| Bookmark|
February 13, 2022 6:03:18 PM
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@True IPO Lover : if prices comes around 320 due to market fall or due to results reaction anything....then that can be good re-entry levels for long term...i am holding all my 6 lots for now and will sell 2-3 lots tomorrow or on tuesday after results, even if share goes down or higher to book profits....and will be holding remaining lots for much longer duration.... Dmart and Jubiliant kind of stocks performed so well in last 3-4 years....and it can also do good in longer run....i know sector is different , just saying due to kind of growth and high PE they are getting....
This forum is very useful, I am new in the market. I have learnt so any things. I thank all the experts of there advice on adani wilmar.
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February 14, 2022 2:35:30 PM
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i have sold 4 lots today at 390...remaining 2 lots will hold for longer term..... it may come down in short term then i may buy again more shares around 300-320 suppose if it comes....
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February 23, 2022 12:10:18 PM
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it bounced back from same expected levels as mentioned above....300-320....good to see price upmove today
I couldn't add more at these level. I thought it will go below 300 but it didn't. I have currently 100 shares at 360.. can't add right now as its at upper circuit. Let's see what happens tomorrow.
Sold half of the alloted shares at 415... just before the downward slide...
Let’s see how the operators move it now.
@lokes is it worth holding for long term now???
1241.1. lokes| Link| Bookmark|
February 13, 2022 5:56:22 PM
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@Avadhesh: yes its worth for holding long term. More than 12 months or so... These are just short term movements, much due to FOMO. Tomorrow results will come and it may give some more short term big movement on any side. But share should perform good in future. it has enough scope of growth in business and also its PE is still attractive in comparison to other FMGC peers and adani will have more brand premium definitely in longer run.
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February 13, 2022 10:51:32 AM
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Trade or make position with caution. If Russia invades Ukraine which appears very much possible and in near term then market will fall like cards.
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February 11, 2022 8:03:11 AM
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For me RS 400 is maximum price of this share more specalative action than real value for this week it may trade between Rs 385-RS400 i feel speculators will wind their position buy on dips Rs 350 -325
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February 11, 2022 8:49:20 AM
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@chemcho.. i too felt so and sold 75% allotted shares at 385 yesterday. But we never know when operators will dump 400 or 500. 10% circuit from today. Hope all genuine short-term investors will come out safe and good profits 👍
@chemcho Sir I have one lot.... Should I sell partially at cmp Or wait ? Please suggest
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February 11, 2022 10:43:08 AM
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I GAVE RS 400 TATGET BUT IT WENT UPTO 419 NOW OPERATORS ARE DUMBING AT THEIR PRICE TILL 351 BUT NOW RS 383 TO 380 I DO NOT NOW THEIR GAVE I HAVE SOLD AT RS 408 TO 412 AND HOLDING PROFIT SHARE OF ZERO VALUE
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February 11, 2022 12:59:21 PM
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@ shreyas Mabian how many shares you have buy @ Rs 325-355 if you get
@chemcho Sir I was alotted one lot... Today I booked partial profit @411 to safeguard my capital 😅... Now I'm having 30 shares... Sure Sir I'll add some quantity between 325-350...Thank you so much for your guidance Sir... Last time also because of you I've added Sona BLW @330 Now I'm enjoying profits...
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February 12, 2022 9:13:06 AM
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What is the maximum for Adani green sir from 40 to 1900 and for Adani gas from 120 to 1800....Any views....
1239.7. Chem cho| Link| Bookmark|
February 13, 2022 9:32:12 AM
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@ Manjitsing chittorgarh does not allow out of IPO qoute like adani green adani gas hence you can ask for any IPO quries which are 6 months old from ipo listing
sorry
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February 13, 2022 9:35:48 AM
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shryan Mabian good you will have tension free sleep at night this is how to invest other wise for one loss of share you will make mistake in other share as you will not be able to consentrate in other scrip
Ruchi Soya likely to launch Rs 4,300-cr FPO in last week of Feb. 2022
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February 11, 2022 1:17:05 PM
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My gut feeling is that even if Adani Wilmar brings up nice results on Monday, there could be a knee jerk reaction up to 310-330 levels mainly because of the sharp run up its had. But buy this gold @ those levels for long term. I would mention another stock -Zomato which has narrowed down its losses commendably with revenue almost doubling YOY. Next quarter, I am sure Zomato will report profit. It is available cheap now. Just grab it. It will be at least 50% up @ 135 in a year, if not in 6 months.
1236.1. Prasen Ipo| Link| Bookmark|
February 11, 2022 1:39:15 PM
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#Ipobull Any news about medplus Q3 result ?
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February 11, 2022 2:01:17 PM
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@prasen MEDPLUS Q3 result on 14 feb not today
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February 11, 2022 2:06:27 PM
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If you have analysed Zomato result then loss narrowed down due to "Other Income" of 464 crores. On gross margin front it is just slight improvement. Though it is good price to accumulate but don't expect any big positive movement in near term in any new age companies because they were running only because of FII and they are pulling out and there will be more outflow because of aggressive Fed rate hike.
1236.4. Have Faith 🙏| Link| Bookmark|
February 11, 2022 2:10:58 PM
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@ipobull please see Zomato results carefully ..looses are borrowed due to exceptional item which is one time adjustment....so don't misguide here please
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February 11, 2022 2:27:16 PM
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*narrowed
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February 11, 2022 11:59:40 PM
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@Have Faith, Please mind your words. I never misguide people. I have given right advises on IPOs. Please note that Zomato is exiting in some of its foreign subsidiaries, which were a burden for it. That gives it a greater focus on mainly Indian business where there is a huge untapped market. If you are looking at exceptional item, also go into the details of Other expenses (6000 million extra YOY) . Also, look at other parameters. Almost half of the annual transacting customers in CY21 were ‘new customers’ for Zomato. Average monthly active food delivery restaurants have grown by 6x and average monthly transacting customers have grown by 13x on Zomato over the past 5 years. The food delivery GOV has grown by 17x on Zomato over the past 5 years. Again mind my words. It will be at least 50% up @ 135 in a year. Let us have a challenge.
Adani wilmar may take same route as Adani ports for inorganic growth with acquisitions. Zomato sold it investment in one of the startup and booked profit. This is onetime. Actually this time result is disappointing. But still I think its a long term story and they mentioned they are already profitable in big cities. Added more zomato along with doordash.
I am holding all most all of these :) Clean Science - Strong margins.. huge capacity being added, for me its strong conviction stock, adding on dips. Data Pattern -Looks good for long term, I will be happy if CAGR 15% stock price Rossari - Was promising, but margins going down with acquisitions, need strong execution, will not add more till they show some improvement in margins. I will give 1 more year for it. MedPlus - interesting play, needs to watch for margins and store expansion Adani wilmar - still holding it, long term play, expecting more high stream play. HDFC bank - cheap among best stocks, but new CEO yet to earn spurs. Airtel - I exited it, huge capex coming for 5G, though ARPUs improving. In developed world telecoms are cash cows for investors not india, not yet.