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115. Hostpacker |   Link |  Bookmark | January 22, 2023 12:38:16 PM
Current Publish share available for Adani Ent is
31.2 Cr shares.
Where LIC hv 4.8 cr shares and foreign porfolio Investor have 17 cr shares & one foreign company have 4 cr shares .
So you can get idea how these shares have high demand from FPI and FII.

Now FPO comes with only 6 Cr shares .
115.3. Hostpacker |   Link |  Bookmark | January 22, 2023 7:20:44 PM
Where you see politicians pressure in share holding ?
115.4. abc xyz |   Link |  Bookmark | January 22, 2023 7:59:20 PM
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@Hostpacker
It's hidden, only very few can see it. ๐Ÿค“๐Ÿ˜Ž๐Ÿง
114. Asoke sarkar |   Link |  Bookmark | January 22, 2023 8:50:44 PM
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Nine - ten years ago , I bought shares of Gitanjali gems and Adani enterprise on the same day both at a price of Rs 120/-. Within a short period of time , I left the former with 4 fold return whereas the later proved to be unconvincing and I exited it with a little gain. Now see where is the Gitanjali gems and where this Adani shares.
Now , I see that fpo(pp) has come with a price of 3276 whareas the 52 week high is shy of 4200.
So the question is why pp ? Simple answer is that the Adani group ahares have been receding. Adani enterprise has shown a phenomenal run from Rs 137/- in march 20 to near 4200 in 2022. Eps 9.67 ; p/e 357(entered nifty this year with p/e 414) p/ bv 29 .8 . I don' t believe in that any business can bring such prosperity in a such short peiod of time nor is it reflected in the financial of the company. The company has been in business from 1993 but its share price appreciation in the covid period.So it may reasonably be called a covid child than Modi benedicted as much as this share had been in price segment of 80 - 160 prior to the covid run. So I am not with the school of thought that it will hold so long as Modi Sir is there. The company could have come out with ordinary FPO but not because they know well that in this present scenario it is difficult to get through at this high price.So has enticed common people to enter at a lower price and get an encumbered one.
Arun sir has shown the gain on interest point for lesser payment at the outset but the actual
amount will be about Rs 64 - 128 depending on the time assessment of 6m to 1 yr.
Not to forget that 5% diluation in this case amounts to erosion of 170 price point and eps etc shown earlier is subject to 5% retraction.
Some friends are inquisitive to know what will be price of the share in 2024.None has answer to this question .Any estimation can go a begging.But the ' Cautious ' estimation of Rs 2380 gives a very danger signal.In that case one who has a pp will be forced to pay the call money @ some 1600 and he will suffer a loss of 800 - 900 and if he does not participate, the pp is relinquished and the loss is about 1600.
Whereso, I am not interested in this deal of fpo for long/medium term gain.
Interestingly, movement of pp on and after listening often have different dynamic. I may be interest in the trading of it at the point of convenience.
One should take decision as per conviction.
114.3. Cautious ProPrio |   Link |  Bookmark | January 29, 2023 4:03:53 PM
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Dada changing colors frequently seems , your latest color now ....???
114.4. Asoke sarkar |   Link |  Bookmark | January 29, 2023 8:25:09 PM
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@ Cautious proprio bhai
Where do you see change of colour ?
I have not said anything in favour of Adani but a lot againt it.
I am neither in ' tukre tukre' gang nor a andha bhakta.I am an investor and a trader as well.I have no investment in Adani group except a small quantity of Awl got in ipo and re-entered. I have consciously avoided adani for any investment.
You can't deny the power of manipulation of Adani.In share market , you know, manipulation can give enormous return if the entry and exit is right to moderate.
In case of fpo (pp) , dynamism may be different. Say , the Adani ent is trading at 3400 while the pp trading at 1900 or more. As I am a trader , I had some interest in that. Now, the game is clear and such eventuality is a far cry.
Still , I have interest in trading in Adani enterprise. On the 25th and 27th , I was able to get something amidst the doldrum.
Tomorrow, I shall trade again with initial presumption that any upside will be to trap fresh investors.
In this connection, I recollect the ' Veritas' report on rcom some ten years ago.
When rcom was trading at 170 to 180, fifteen rupees target was given .Now , the eventuality is known to all.
Let's see the proceedings tomorrow.
Thank you
113. abc xyz |   Link |  Bookmark | January 22, 2023 6:06:46 PM
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This fpo is coming before the budget and it's listing would be after budget. The promoters have launched this fpo during budget session and might be very good for the Adani Enterprise which we don't know but may surprise us and pull up the price too. After all it's Adani & everything is possible for them. So I hope and strong feeling for it. Let's wait & watch.
113.1. arvindarvind |   Link |  Bookmark | January 22, 2023 6:15:01 PM
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Sir
They are taking the risk of listing after budget and they are also governing the government.
So IMO there is no risk but profit may be very low.
112. Student. |   Link |  Bookmark | January 22, 2023 3:32:58 PM (400+ Posts, 200+ Likes)
Is It Possible in Kotak Bank To Apply in IPO
With FD Funds?
I've Heard About ICICI and HDFC (Flexi FD) That Funds Can Be Used in IPO Without Breaking FD
If It Is Possible in Kotak Bank Too?
Then What's the Process?
111. papon |   Link |  Bookmark | January 22, 2023 2:06:37 PM
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Retail portion minimum 4 share and maximum 60 shares
110. Gem picker |   Link |  Bookmark | January 22, 2023 12:49:47 PM
Whenever lot of negativity is there for any ipo / fpo profit was always there

Gland Pharma
Yes bank fpo
Ruchi soya fpo

And many more....
110.1. abc xyz |   Link |  Bookmark | January 22, 2023 1:52:15 PM
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@Gem Picker
Sometimes the Lot of Negativity works in it's favor but sometimes it doesn't
Like in case of
LIC
PAYTM
109. PLAZA |   Link |  Bookmark | January 22, 2023 10:57:24 AM
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As per the prevailing GMP operator wants to buy retail applications in large and want not to apply by investors in Bhni so that they can put the large quantity of shares I bid irrespective of discount at the last hour.
108. abc xyz |   Link |  Bookmark | January 22, 2023 7:42:20 AM
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Opinion poll...
A. Can Ipo price 3276/ of Adani Enterprise double ( 6400/) in short / medium term?
B. Is risk reward ratio favorable for subscribing the ipo?
C. Is better option available in the market to have decent profit or only Adani can give the profit?
108.2. Dilip Porwal |   Link |  Bookmark | January 22, 2023 10:03:35 AM
In my view -
1. No
2. No
3. Yes
108.3. arvindarvind |   Link |  Bookmark | January 22, 2023 10:15:46 AM
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Sir
If you ask the third answer then their is always other option available of each ipo coming.
But withing 6 days no other option has 80% surety to give 4 % gain.
Here 3 to 4 % gain chances are more than 90%.
107. Pbdrajkot |   Link |  Bookmark | January 22, 2023 6:28:03 AM (200+ Posts)
How many forms required for 1 time subscription in retail ,SHNI AND BHNI ?
107.1. arunARUN |   Link |  Bookmark | January 22, 2023 10:13:08 AM
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50,000 in sHNI and 20,000 in bHNI. Past experience suggest that grey market sellers generally apply in this category -bHNI as it has more confirmed allotment chances
106. SSingh |   Link |  Bookmark | January 22, 2023 4:04:13 AM
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โ‚น63/โ‚น66 last heard GMPโ€ฆ
105. arunARUN |   Link |  Bookmark | January 21, 2023 8:07:25 PM
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Everyone who applies in retail has good chances of getting allotment.
Risk averse people may sell likely allotment in grey and sleep
If grey falls by last day then they can square off and sit on money without worrying about listing price
If grey does not fall then the only risk is not getting allotment due to mistake in application
SO if you disagree with grey price thinking it is high then sell. You will also pocket Rs 64 of retail discount
104. Gem picker |   Link |  Bookmark | January 21, 2023 4:48:12 PM
Adani wilmar ipo price was 230 per share listed negative 227 mostly and after that rocket........boom....holding wilmar since ipo......adani never disappoint to its investors....although it was my first experience....
103. abc xyz |   Link |  Bookmark | January 21, 2023 11:17:15 AM
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The financial datas of Adani Enterprises
CMP : 3582
Market Cap: 408348.41 cr
Div yld: 0.03
N. P. Qtr: 432.3
Sales Qtr: 38175.23 cr
ROCE : 7.28%
P. E. : 338.34
OPM% : 5% ( March 2022)
Share capital : 114 cr.
Face Value : 1/
Total Liabilities: 123091 / cr( Sep 2022)
103.3. PKRAJ |   Link |  Bookmark | January 21, 2023 2:40:35 PM
@Pandit ji
I had commented about FPO of IRCTC and not @abc xyz.
@abc xyz on behalf of Pandit ji, I say sorry.
Take it easy.
103.4. abc xyz |   Link |  Bookmark | January 21, 2023 3:46:50 PM
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@ PKRAJ
No question of Sorry. We are learning from each others experience. I hope you also mean to express that the fpo/ ofs of IRCTC is also trading below ipo price and that's true.
The history of ofs / fpo / mega ipos is not great and haven't provided the great returns ( YES bank fpo is exceptional) .
So history repeat or sets another record, we have to watch.
102. abc xyz |   Link |  Bookmark | January 21, 2023 11:55:34 AM
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Before this Adani's mega ipo collecting Rs. 20000/cr from the market, we have seen 3 mega ipos and 2 we're psus & 1 private sector.
1. Coal india: October 2010: collected Rs. 15199/ cr ipo@ 245 trading now @ 227

2. LIC : May 2022: collected Rs. 21008/ cr ipo@ 949 trading now @ 698

3. Paytm : November 2021: collected Rs. 18300 / cr ipo@ 2150 trading now @ 550
The history of mega ipos in terms of returns is not good , but let's hope positive and hope Adani will break the previous records. ๐Ÿ˜†๐Ÿ˜€๐Ÿ˜„
102.11. arunARUN |   Link |  Bookmark | January 23, 2023 11:28:45 AM
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@amit k singh
Sorry you are making wrong comprasions. Investor in Coal India had a choice all the time to shift to FD. 2ndly 90% of the dividend were tax free. You are comparing taxable rate of FD
3rdly It is presumed that dividend is reinvested. Actually if one were to reduce excess of dividend from return on FD at Rs 245 then actually you are in profit (excess of dividend over FD interest in one accounting year)
102.12. A krishnan |   Link |  Bookmark | January 23, 2023 7:14:53 PM
Coal India ipo listed at a hefty premium and for some times it was quoting more than rs 400 and they hv been paying hefty dividend for more than ten years u can't compare this with any other issues
101. BHAVESH CHAUHAN |   Link |  Bookmark | January 21, 2023 12:06:41 PM
All experts
Sir apollo Microsystems, archean chemical & yes bank me mid to long term k liye kya karna chahiye ? Target please
100. hchc |   Link |  Bookmark | January 21, 2023 11:22:57 AM
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GMP 55
100.1. Imhilli |   Link |  Bookmark | January 21, 2023 12:02:36 PM
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GMP will vary a lot depending on the market value of the fully paid share. Last day value of the same needs to be checked. I feel, people shouldn't expect a huge listing gain. One should look at the long term perspective and invest. At this level Adani group shares will move like an elephant ๐Ÿ˜. Beta factor will be on the lower side.
100.2. Gaurav DD dimer |   Link |  Bookmark | February 5, 2023 5:01:51 PM
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@hchc

Upcoming Mainline IPO?
And expected dates?
99. PKRAJ |   Link |  Bookmark | January 21, 2023 11:17:34 AM
Generally FPO comes from PSUs. There will be only a few examples of FPO from other than PSUs.
PSUs come with FPO with a reason to reduce their holding as per rules and also to meet the disinvestment targets fixed in the Union Budget. To compare both the FPOs is difficult.
Take the latest example of IRCTC. It was at 680 a piece and the market price is at 640 during last trading day. It may go up and will go up but when difficult to predict.
To subscribe this FPO will be a personal choice according to personal appetite. But low and high of 52 week is very difficult to understand.
98. Krishnam Raju dhanapal naidu |   Link |  Bookmark | January 21, 2023 7:04:40 AM
Face value 0.50 paise 8 share lot
98.1. PKRAJ |   Link |  Bookmark | January 21, 2023 11:04:52 AM
@KR d naidu
Face value remains the same i.e. 1.00 only. Company is asking 50% on application. The lot will be 4 only and not 8 at all. One can bid in the multiple of 4 shares.
Allotted shares will be called partly paid shares and according listed on BSE & NSE.
97. NforNandkishor |   Link |  Bookmark | January 20, 2023 10:46:11 PM
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Hi nookul ji, it's me
96. Swar |   Link |  Bookmark | January 20, 2023 9:58:37 PM
Please clarify
How many shares we get 4 or 8?
And how many we can sell on listing 4 or 8
96.1. Imhilli |   Link |  Bookmark | January 21, 2023 11:57:19 AM
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4,4 for RII if oversubscribed
96.2. arunARUN |   Link |  Bookmark | January 22, 2023 10:23:57 AM
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Obviously you will get 4 or 8 will depend upon oversubscription or undersubscription
You can only sell what you get allotted. Don't be confused by 50% payment
You are applying for partly paid shares. You get allotment then either you sell or pay call money after some time when it get called