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78. vas nat |   Link |  Bookmark | February 21, 2011 6:15:51 PM (200+ Posts)
Bangalore King

The application says FII cannot apply. (QIB portion of 25% does not allow FIIs). Can the FIIs purchase in open market?
Experts pl clarify.
77. SkDash |   Link |  Bookmark | February 21, 2011 4:38:00 PM
Top Contributor Top Contributor (1000+ Posts, 200+ Likes)
Acropetal Tech Ltd Sub details (Bse+Nse)- 1st day
QIB-0%
NII-9%
RII-16%
Total-7%
76. sameerjaipur |   Link |  Bookmark | February 21, 2011 4:10:41 PM
Dear Sandeep,
Sanganeri Gate branch is the only branch in Jaipur where forms r depositing.This may be one of the reason of rush.
75. rajivaa |   Link |  Bookmark | February 21, 2011 3:50:52 PM
where to get and submit sbi bonds in mumbai andheri?
74. bangalore king |   Link |  Bookmark | February 21, 2011 3:26:42 PM (400 Posts)
Guys,

Does anybody understand exactly how this 'first come, first serve' service works for SBI bonds open now.. Last time it got subscribed 17-20 times, did they give it to all dividing by that ?

Are they going to differentiate between ppl who submitted on first and second day for example. Are they maintaining time also when it was submitted ? (hope NOT). Heard there is 1000 crore more if retail appetite is more. FII wants to grab it but unfortunately they are just 25% . Please share your views.
73. Sandeep ,Jaipur |   Link |  Bookmark | February 21, 2011 3:18:49 PM
huge demand of sbi bond i just visit sbi sanganeri gate ,jaipur branch apply as early as possible may close early.one person deposit only five forms
72. preetparesh |   Link |  Bookmark | February 21, 2011 1:58:23 PM
huge demand of sbi bond i just visit sbi vadodara apply as early as possible may close early.
71. my my |   Link |  Bookmark | February 21, 2011 12:35:05 PM
thanks shreedhar for the info..

can u tell me the rate for 1lac app??

here all says 2600 for the 1k.

what we have to do sell or hold??
70. Sreedhar |   Link |  Bookmark | February 21, 2011 11:48:15 AM (900+ Posts)
it will list on both exchanges & listing date should be 18-20 march.
69. Chem cho |   Link |  Bookmark | February 21, 2011 11:32:55 AM
IPO Guru IPO Guru (2600+ Posts, 2700+ Likes)
sbi bonds
i have filled 2 forms of the bond of rs 1 lakhs each there was little rush in the branch where i submitted the application
68. SANJEEV BHARDWAJ |   Link |  Bookmark | February 21, 2011 11:06:10 AM
cam anyone tell me,Can I apply SBI Bond thru ASBA?????please
67. sojourn |   Link |  Bookmark | February 21, 2011 9:31:11 AM
Dear Sreedhar,
I am working in NTPC for the past 28 years. Now I am at a senior position. I joined NTPC as Executive trainee in 1983. We can exchange more details but through some other platform.
66. Sreedhar |   Link |  Bookmark | February 20, 2011 11:31:37 PM (900+ Posts)
here is Hindu business line take on Acropetal:


Acropetal Technologies: Avoid
February 19, 2011:
The macro trends in the IT sector are such that the top tier and relatively larger players have seen a considerable revival in fortunes after the financial crisis.

Mid-tier, and more so the smaller software companies, are yet to see significant revival in volumes or pricing, especially after the debt crisis in Europe. In this light, investors can give the IPO of Acropetal Technologies, a provider of engineering design and IT services, a miss, given the challenges in scalability of its business and relatively higher valuation that the offer demands.

At Rs 90 (upper end of the price band), the offeror asks for around 10 times its annualised (9MFY11) earnings on a fully diluted basis. This valuation is about the same or marginally higher than what companies such as Geometric, KPIT Cummins and Infotech Enterprises (that are 3-10 times larger) trade at.

Acropetal, which commenced operations about a decade ago, has revenues of Rs 153.5 crore as of FY10, with net profits of about Rs 35.7 crore. This has been helped by the acquisition of Vision Info in the UAE, which was completed in the later part of FY09. Vision Info recorded revenues of Rs 45.4 crore in 2009-10. Organically, Acropetal has grown its revenues at a compounded annual rate of 27.5 per cent over FY07-10, while net profits expanded only at the rate of 11.4 per cent over this period.

The company works predominantly in three verticals/services ? engineering design services (almost 38 per cent of revenues), IT services (29 per cent) and healthcare (33 per cent). The US accounts for more than 55 per cent of its revenues, while West Asia's contribution is around 35 per cent, thanks to the acquisition it made. There is a fair bit of revenue fluctuation among geographies. Europe and Asia, which collectively used to account for over a fourth of revenues, have seen reduction in absolute revenues to less than half this fiscal compared with what they were in FY10. The company also has to contend with rising interest costs, heavy client concentration, higher days sales outstanding, and possibly increased tax-incidence.

Macro challenges

After the initial run-up from the lows of 2009, mid-tier IT companies have not been marked up as their earnings either continue to languish or grow at a tepid pace. The re-rating has largely been restricted to bigger IT companies . With clients across the world undertaking a consolidation of vendors, mid-tier players have hardly made any dent. The flow of large deals too, has only been to the top-tier companies. Investors may be well advised to stick to the top-tier companies while cherry picking a couple of stocks from the mid-tier pack.

Acropetal has only about 10 clients accounting for almost all of its revenues, posing serious concentration risks. The company had a debtor collection period of 109 days in FY10, which it estimates to go up to 121 days this fiscal. This is substantially higher than the 60-80 days timeframe that most Indian IT vendors work with. Acropetal has over Rs 130 crore in debt with a debt-equity ratio of 1:1. Interest costs too are rising steadily. Both of these are at variance to the relatively tight balance sheets of most software players.

Finally, with the tax exemption on STPIs set to expire this fiscal, tax incidence, insignificant currently, may go up manifold. These apart heavy competition and the resultant pricing pressure may not allow easy scalability.

65. IPO ADDICT |   Link |  Bookmark | February 20, 2011 8:21:41 PM
SBI BONDS Update
1 lakh form---2600/-
5 lakh form ---13500/-

will list at approx 10400 and will give return of 20000 per 5 lakh appln

to view oct bonds quote on nse
go to nse site
type sbin as scrip code
on top n1 and n2 link
click
64. Chem cho |   Link |  Bookmark | February 20, 2011 5:32:14 PM
IPO Guru IPO Guru (2600+ Posts, 2700+ Likes)
SBI BONDS
IF YOU ARE NOT AN LONG TERM INVESTOR IN SBI BOND PL DO NOT WASTE YOUR TIME AND MONEY TO INVEST IN IT YOU ARE NOT GOING TO GET ANY PREMIUM FROM LISTING SBI NOV 2010 LISTED BONDS ARE TRADED AT RS 10225 / IN NSE AND BSE ON 18/2/2011 RATE SO AFTER FOUR MONTHS OF INVESTMENT YOU ARE GETTING ONLY RS225 IE ONLY INTEREST
ALSO LAST TIME BONDS HAD SOME PREMIUM AS RATE OF INTEREST WAS LOW AND ALSO ONLY RS 1000 CROES WERE AVIABLE NOW RS 2000 CROES AND TO EXTRA AMOUNT ABOVE THAT OF 50 % IS AVAIABLE FOR RETAIL QUATA HENCE
63. Bj |   Link |  Bookmark | February 20, 2011 4:17:50 PM
Can anyone please let me know how to search for SBI Bond in nse?
I dont find it nseindia.com , I tried searching with the symbols SBIN-N1 and SBIN-N2.
Would Indiabulls support trading on bonds?
62. Bj |   Link |  Bookmark | February 20, 2011 4:00:57 PM
58.Sreedhar,
What is the incentive that you mentioned about?
Can you please clarify? What incentives one would get from brokerages?
61. Sreedhar |   Link |  Bookmark | February 20, 2011 12:14:47 PM (900+ Posts)
Dear Sojourn,
NTPC is my home.My father just retired this month from NTPC Ramagundam.I have studied from LKG to 12th Class in Kendriya Vidyalaya,Ramagundam.Where do you work.Are you executive trainee ???
60. sojourn |   Link |  Bookmark | February 20, 2011 10:37:32 AM
Sreedhar,
Are you in any way connected with NTPC. I am with NTPC
59. sojourn |   Link |  Bookmark | February 20, 2011 10:34:17 AM
Dear friends,
I am not applying even for a single share in any of the three IPO's presently under consideration.