@MuStrFc - To what extent you'll recommend to hold ? With crazy listings happening these days, if lists at 4x it would be almost at 93x FY 25 earnings.
81.3. MuStrFc| Link| Bookmark|
June 30, 2024 3:54:30 PM
IPO Guru (3100+ Posts, 2400+ Likes)
@GrayIsTheNewBlack The last one of such sort if we take GPECO listed with 300% premium and has been falling since due to inherent trading business, smaller issue size which meant higher listing action and the word "solar" was already embedded advantage for listing which has faded since.
Shivalic on the other hand has a good base of tailwind sector catering to variety of needs with better margins than peers and can do well if good guidance going forward is given by the management. If annualised estimates can be beaten thats an icing on the cake.
So, in that context for allottees only any listing between 200-250% premium is ideally a hold but if stretched too far like you said 400%+, then taking an exit is no doubt an equally good choice.
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June 30, 2024 5:00:38 PM
IPO Guru (1200+ Posts, 800+ Likes)
This may be compared to Marine Electricals which is at 80 PE. The Shivalic RHP already states that they've done 102 cr in FY24, and at 12% PAT (9m '24 number), thats 12 cr for the year and 20 PE at 100 rs. So there can be juice upto a price of 400 rs which is already euphoric, and beyond that i dont have words to describe.
Managememt have indicated they can max out capacity in next couple of years (i.e 2.5x from here). So IF mgmt delivers, were looking at 250 cr rev, 35 cr PAT in 2 years (~27 PE on FY26). Expensive, but in line with peers. @GrayIsTheNewBlack@MuStrFc
I wrote FY-25 by mistake meant FY-24. Thanks @rohiitian for pointing out that full FY24 revenue data is available (they've mentioned it at just one place though at page-75, why not include in all tables for ease of readers ?? ) I was working with conservative estimates to derive FY 24 data and around 400 was getting a P/E of 90~95, with approximate revenue figures given by the company as you said it comes around 80x at 400 Rs. Listing beyond 400 though, is discounting all the known positives for forseeable future. If they expediate the new high margin product which they have mentioned in their interview, could open room for some more upside in the near future @MuStrFc
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June 30, 2024 9:50:02 PM
IPO Guru (1200+ Posts, 800+ Likes)
There are couple of triggers i could gather - one is foraying heavily into HT panels which are still small %. Other is an acquisition theyre considering to increase product range. But yes everything factored in at 400. As per DD sir, everything is factored in at 100 😆
But one clear thing is market quickly takes high quality cos to seemingly obscene valuations but in line with peers (most recently Aimtron, plus we experienced it with Atmastco, KP Green etc.). So i wouldn't be surprised to see this go to 400 if it lists less than that. May be a short term opportunity depending on list price. If it goes down, then everyone becomes long term investors :) @GrayIsTheNewBlack
@vitasta this company is working with very big client i would suggest to hold long u will enjoy money rain .. This company is doing great work.. Just google company SITE N CHECK ITS CLIENT SO MANY BIG CLIENT IT HAS.. Planning to jump in pre open to buy 1 lot lets see where it open 🧿🧿
@Chhote Lal ji whats your view on this company did not got any lot but want to enter at preipo price if price be like 270-300 range company website saw looks big clients can we enter help me with expertise 🙏
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June 29, 2024 1:02:46 AM
IPO Mentor (800+ Posts, 200+ Likes)
@Tejas Pandya@diwan kapoor Is it good to buy on listing company n its CLIENT list is good what u say guys 🙏
@SJ❤️ Bhai.. No doubt company is good with good financials.. Good product & good client.. But gmp is to high.. I think can list at 300+.. it is very high price ,so will skip if listed at this price.. !! Will try for petro carban if listed around gmp..!
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June 29, 2024 11:50:06 AM
IPO Mentor (800+ Posts, 200+ Likes)
@diwan kapoor yes client also good Company PE also good as peer So thinking to join party IT WILL BE 1st ever to JUMP IN PREOPEN OF ANY SME .. you are EXPERT I KNOW 😅 By the way I AM still HOLDING PREMIUM ROADLINE N ENJOYING PARTY 😅 I guess u holding ABS MARINE N ENJYOING PARTY 😅
@SJ❤️ Feel nice to knew that you are holding the premium roadline & enjoying the part.. That's good..!! In ABS Marine i done several trades.. Like.. Entered in pre open @ 294 two lots Again entered @ 242 two lots Again entered @ 214 one lot on 4th june Do intraday buy@190 & sold@210 on 4 th june Sold 3 lots(214, 242,242 wale) @242 Sold 2 lots (294 wale) @295 & 300Now nill holding..of this one..!!
@SJ❤️ Shivalik & petro both are looking promising.. Will keep on radar both of these on pre listing.. Final decision will be based on buyers -sellers positions ..& volume.. !!
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June 28, 2024 5:27:44 AM
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There is just too much capital chasing IPO allotments these days. One either needs to bring in a lot more capital or focus on the secondary market or elsewhere.
@BLUE WHALE Think twice before commenting on those topics.. On which you are not familiar.. In share market ability to Differentiate between Bakwas company & Genuine company is most importent.. !! So try to understand this concept..seriously !!