9. Modi Adani| Link| Bookmark|
September 13, 2024 2:10:39 AM
Top Contributor (600+ Posts, 200+ Likes)
Not applying. Seems pumping GMP and then list like resource automation (90% to 0%)
Post IPO P/E 51.
8. MuStrFc| Link| Bookmark|
September 12, 2024 8:28:06 PM
IPO Guru (3100+ Posts, 2400+ Likes)
Not many issues handled by MM, but its good given the history. LM has been able to manage similar size issues without QIB and Anchors. Unusually high issue expenses around 12%. Fixed price issue.
Co. deals in metal powders and tungsten alloys. The metal powder segment has wide application in automobiles, diamond, welding, etc. Tungsten has application in defense, radiation shielding, aerospace etc. They have been associated with BHEL (1984) through General Engineering later turned into Diamond tools, then to metal powders and then to Tungsten alloys. All new fields linked to the origin from which they started. Led by 2 women with Mr. Vijay as CMD having diverse knowledge in this metallurgy field over 15 years. Total 56 employees with 21 on contractual basis.
IPO proceeds of around 8 cr are used for capex which includes Solar plant for cost reduction; boosts current 600 MT capacity of metal powders to 1400 MT at new factory location. Results will be visible in FY26 with proposed capacity utilisation from current 34% to 70%. Tungsten facility is operating at 50% capacity but no expansion plans on that yet and proposed utilisation levels for next year at 70%.
Currently at 29 cr revenues, 80% is from Metal Powders and 20% from Tungsten Alloys. Out of this, 10% only is Export and rest domestic. 150 customers for metal powders all across country. Out of the 10 cr order book in hand : around 1.5 cr for Metal powders and 8 cr for alloys beacuse of its long operating cycle with lesser participants. Small orders received from Ordance factory, TATA STEEL, NMCC, BDL, HAL, BHARAT FORGE, ADANI, BPCL etc. Tungsten can be potential MOAT for them being the first mover in this. But with only 18 MT capacity and the Ministry of Defence already having a Heavy Alloy Project of their own they will have a tough time scaling it.
Since the expansion is planned; 11 cr from IPO is to be used for working capital and they have projected around 46 cr revenues FY25. There are fluctuations in PAT margins, which can be accrued somewhat to : 1. One time sweat equity share expenses (done at Rs 19 per share in Aug 23 alongwith in-house family preferential) and 2. Interest on tax liability totalling near 54 lakhs, assuming governance improves these should not be repetitive. 2 cr from IPO proceeds is for borrowings reduction which save near 22.5 lakhs post tax.
The actual PAT comes to 3.1 cr after these adjustments which means this is priced near 42 P/E at IPO price. Despite the increase in trade receivables, operating cash flows have been positive.
Working previously with IIT Chennai and now with IIT Hyderabad alongwith DRDO for Gas Atomizer.They have ventured further into EV Battery partnering with Altmin and International Powder Metallurgy Centre. Also eyeing to get standard certification for tungsten alloys.
Given the niche and the uncharted territory this is into, short term appears positive but the issue expenses and fixed price issue are not welcome. Potential for long term is big but will need time to materialise and get justified on basis of numbers. It will have a huge influx of money coming towards it from refunds and will be butchered solely on basis of GMP, it seems.
👏Great in-depth post. Thanks for sharing your knowledge.
8.3. k l patel| Link| Bookmark|
September 13, 2024 11:48:56 AM
IPO Mentor (600+ Posts, 200+ Likes)
@MuStrFc sirji koi aisi point jiski wajah se apply na kiya jaay....
8.4. MuStrFc| Link| Bookmark|
September 13, 2024 11:58:09 AM
IPO Guru (3100+ Posts, 2400+ Likes)
@k l patel Issue expense aur book build na hone ki wajah se apply ki jagah wait and watch mode main jaa sakte hain, kyunki H2 FY25 main agar performance sahi rahi toh 46 cr tak revenue expected hai, almost 58% growth.
Uske alava short term main sector aur buzzwords ke use se isko premium milna pakka hai
8.5. PLAZA| Link| Bookmark|
September 13, 2024 12:10:55 PM
IPO Guru (2400+ Posts, 1300+ Likes)
@MuStrFc Txs for details. expected subscription appx 500 or lower .
@PLAZA 500 times bhi ho sakta hai kyunki excellent wire(not interested) ko chodke dusra koi ipo clash nahi horaha, aur pura fund next ipo ke liye mil jayega
8.9. Liger| Link| Bookmark|
September 13, 2024 12:56:21 PM
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whether the money raised is going to be used effectively ?
Fresh issue: 34.24 cr --- abt 10 cr is worth spent --- Debt repayment: 2 cr only from issue raised (total debt ~ 12 cr) spend on capex : 7.88 cr
--- abt 24.27 cr for other expenses --- expenses on IPO process: 4.17 cr expenses on working capital: 11.60 cr general corporate purposes: 8.5 cr
whether the amount of 24.27 cr from the 34.24 cr raised is worth spent ????
8.10. MuStrFc| Link| Bookmark|
September 13, 2024 1:12:15 PM
IPO Guru (3100+ Posts, 2400+ Likes)
@Liger Agreed that those issue expenses and GCP are higher, in line that this one needs an extra push to get sailed which is why its fixed priced issue. Since for all the prospects till date, real traction is not visible just as of yet. Working capital is high since that Tungsten part has a longer than usual cycle from procurement to end use. But with a pinch of salt, given there are no other listed players, slight inclination on positive side is not ruled out
No mention about the factories where these metallic powders and tungsten alloys are being produced. Pl throw some light quickly on this . @MuStrFc@Chhote Lal
8.12. MuStrFc| Link| Bookmark|
September 13, 2024 4:10:20 PM
IPO Guru (3100+ Posts, 2400+ Likes)
@JOYS Its mentioned. B31, Industrial Estate, Medak, Telangana 502032
8.13. G profit| Link| Bookmark|
September 13, 2024 4:14:06 PM
IPO Mentor (1200+ Posts, 300+ Likes)
Applied 6 retail, just for gmp. No long term.
8.14. PLAZA| Link| Bookmark|
September 13, 2024 4:53:08 PM
IPO Guru (2400+ Posts, 1300+ Likes)
Applied few application of four lot and one big for getting one sure lot.
8.15. PLAZA| Link| Bookmark|
September 16, 2024 7:46:38 PM
IPO Guru (2400+ Posts, 1300+ Likes)
Allotted one lot . All the best for allottees. hopw a blaster listing which will subset listing of KROSS and Tollins where sold at par.
8.16. Basuvr| Link| Bookmark|
September 16, 2024 7:55:27 PM
IPO Guru (2100+ Posts, 1100+ Likes)
Although, the product offering is very unique, there are many red flags in this issue - - Flattish revenue growth, reduced PAT in last FY24 - Low capacity utilization ranging from 1 to 50%, depedent on the product. - Moderate order book standing at 8.54Crs. - High debt. Debt/equity - 1.27 and only 2cr. of 13+cr. debt going to be paid from IPO proceeds - High spending on IPO (4.17Cr.) suggesting a managed GMP. - High PE of 51.28 with no listed peers to compare with - No anchors/ QIBs
Thank you @Kapz for highlighting it. I had posted this comment for such details and suggestions only. What do you think about its high GMP? Seems inorganic.
@Shakti Man as I mentioned, I think it is a managed GMP from high IPO spend. Essentially, this may well open according to GMP because of hype created by it, but may not sustain post listing. (Wanted to say should not sustain but... SME IPOs have become highly unpredictable lately, so nothing can be taken for certain.)
I think if two dmat accounts belong to different people, bank account belongs to one of them and you try to apply for same issue using 2 accounts it may be counted as a third party application.