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125. JAYANT BANGALORE |   Link |  Bookmark | July 29, 2010 8:01:52 AM
sir, how can i use downloded ASBAform from nse side.
124. KAUSHAL |   Link |  Bookmark | July 29, 2010 12:27:30 AM
I WILL APPLY 3 FULL APP
123. Saharanpuri |   Link |  Bookmark | July 28, 2010 11:00:38 PM
FIRSTCHOICE IPO ANALYSYTS SAYS THAT EIL WILL GO NMDC WAY AVOID


Engineering India Limited (EIL), a mini NAVRATNA, is an engineering consultancy company providing design, engineering, procurement, construction and integrated project management services, principally focused on the oil and gas and petrochemicals industries in India and internationally. EIL also operates in diverse sectors including non-ferrous mining and metallurgy and infrastructure. EIL is providing engineering consultancy services for the GoI’s energy security initiative under its Integrated Energy Policy for strategic crude storages.
Services in these industries and sectors cover the entire spectrum of activities from concept to commissioning of a project. The services include preparation of project feasibility reports, technology selection, project management, process design, basic and detailed engineering, procurement, inspection, project audit, supply chain management, cost engineering, planning and scheduling, facilitation of statutory and regulatory approvals for Indian projects, construction management, commissioning and also provide specialist services such as heat and mass transfer equipment design, environmental engineering services, specialist materials and maintenance services, energy conservation services, plant operation and safety services.
The company was incorporated in 1965 and have over the years developed a strong track record of working on landmark projects with various Indian and global energy majors. Among others, EIL has provided consultancy and project implementation services on more than 49 refinery projects, including eight greenfield refinery projects, seven petrochemical complexes, 35 oil and gas processing projects, 205 offshore platforms projects, 37 pipeline projects, 11 ports and storage and terminals projects, eight fertilizer projects and 26 mining and metallurgy projects.
The business is aligned into two principal operating segments: the Consultancy and Engineering segment and the Lump sum Turnkey Projects segment.
OBJECTS OF THE ISSUE:
The object of the Offer is to carry out the divestment of 33,693,660 Equity Shares by the Government. The Company will not receive any proceeds from the Offer and all proceeds shall go to the Selling Shareholder- Government of India. The government plans to raise about Rs 1,200 crore by disinvesting 10 per cent stake in the company.


FINANCIALS:
The total income increased at a CAGR of 47.28% from Rs.887.65 cr in the year ended March 31, 2007 to Rs.2196.96cr in the year ended March 31, 2010, while profit after taxation, increased at a CAGR of 47.31 % from Rs.199.26cr million in the year ended March 31, 2007 to Rs.444.34cr in the year ended March 31, 2010.

      
13-03-08
      
31-03-09
      
31-03-10
EPS (in Rs)
      
5.91
      
10.37
      
13.19
RONW
      
17%
      
24%
      
39%
EQUITY (in cr)
      
56.15
      
56.15
      
56.15
DIVIDEND PAYMENT(Rs in cr)
      
61.77
      
103.88
      
595.25
NAV AS ON 31-03-2010 is Rs 34.20.
After the public issue, the government holding in the company will fall to 80.4 per cent from the current 90.4 per cent. Earlier this year, the company had issued bonus shares in the ratio of 2:1. It had also gone for a stock split, with the face value of a unit being cut to Rs 5 from Rs 10 earlier.
STRENGTHS:
· Leadership position across the value chain in the hydrocarbon industry.
· Operations in diverse industries and economies.
· Technology-driven integrated turnkey and total solutions consultancy services.
· Strong financial position and with healthy Order Book.
RISKS:
Dependence on government / government controlled enterprises for business.
The company operates in highly competitive markets. The principal factors affecting competition include customer relationships, technical excellence or differentiation, price, service delivery including the ability to deliver personnel, processes, systems and technology.

In the hydrocarbon sector, EIL competes against major US, European, Japanese and Korean engineering and construction companies or their regional operating entities. In the mining and metallurgy sector and in the infrastructure sector, significant competitors include various Indian engineering and construction companies.

EIL’s business is principally focused on projects in oil and gas exploration, development and production, and transportation projects undertaken by large Indian and international energy conglomerates, many of which are directly or indirectly owned or controlled by either the government of the relevant country or relevant government organizations.

VALUATION:
After the recent bonus and split - the company had issued bonus shares in the ratio of 2:1, it had also gone for a stock split, with the face value of a unit being cut to Rs 5 from Rs 10, the company has Rs 168.45cr equity capital consisting of 33,69,36,000 equity shares of Rs 5/- each. Assuming that the company achieves a growth of 30% plus for the FY 11, the EPS would be around Rs 17/- The shares are presently quoting around Rs 340 in the exchanges. (28 PE). Because of low floating stock, the valuations are on the high side.

The recent NMDC’s FPO offer is still quoting below the offer price. The BRLMs and the government should realistically price this issue, leaving some thing for the investors.

RECOMMENDATIONS:
If the issue is going to be priced by less than 15 PE of its FY 11 expected earnings – that is around Rs 240/- APPLY. Other wise skip the issue.
122. manoj jain |   Link |  Bookmark | July 28, 2010 10:09:22 PM
yess i'll definately go for EIL but only 2 full application.
121. gem ipo finder |   Link |  Bookmark | July 28, 2010 10:05:21 PM
sreedhar,

i think eil should hold 300 till shares r listed, if that happens that will be beyond expectation return for me, i m factoring 290 to sale and 2-3 times retail oversubscription.

i will devide my funds in all 3 ipo, skewde towards eil a bit.
120. rampal |   Link |  Bookmark | July 28, 2010 8:26:55 PM
sir, any idea how to use ASBA down loded form from nse site.
119. Parmod Ipo Expert |   Link |  Bookmark | July 28, 2010 8:02:37 PM
Dear all

Pahle din retailer k alawa kisi ne bhi nahi lagaya paisa
Iska reason h ki sabhi FIIs and Mutual funds ko pata h ki fpo bekar h
fir govt ne doosre din fiis aur mutual fund se jabarjastilic se bhi paisa lagvaya taki bholi bhali janta ko fasaya ja sake
koi bhi isme paisa mat lagan dear
118. Priyanka |   Link |  Bookmark | July 28, 2010 7:20:01 PM
I will certainly go for Engineers India with 4 points in mind. They are

(1) EIL has a proven track record of project implementation,
(2) strong financials, zero debt on balance sheet
(3) robust order book,
(4) diversifying in to new growth areas

Will think about SKS as last day is on Monday
117. MOTABHAI |   Link |  Bookmark | July 28, 2010 5:04:12 PM
YES, go for all three EIL, SKS and BAJAJ
116. pnc |   Link |  Bookmark | July 28, 2010 4:58:44 PM
hi,shreedherbhai
sirjee, EIL or SKS MICRO in dono ipo me retail ko kitna discount mila hai ?
or mere pass fund problem nahi hai to kya EIL,SKS MICRO me charo account me full application kar sakta hu.....
please reply sir...
or sir aap ka E-MAIL ID mujhe bata sakte hai?
115. sundip kothari |   Link |  Bookmark | July 28, 2010 4:18:29 PM
never apply for this ipo and also for sks both are meant to loose your hard earned money
buy instead sona koyo and you will get good money in short term
114. rajiv |   Link |  Bookmark | July 28, 2010 3:23:55 PM
pl tell me what is the difference between rs 5/ share and rs 10/ share and how does it matters when we compare the issue of eil
113. PARESH KUMAR |   Link |  Bookmark | July 28, 2010 1:55:22 PM
EINGNEERS INDIA MAY NOT GIVE LISTING GAINS BUT FOR RETAL APPLICANT PRICE OF RS.275/- ONE CAN SAFE EXPECT RS 350/- IN ABOUNT ONE YEAR . IT APPEARS TO BE INVESTORS SCRIPT..GOOD LUCK. THANKS
112. IPOEXPERT |   Link |  Bookmark | July 28, 2010 1:54:51 PM
I am again warning everyone not to go for this fpo.

rememebr this will go down same way as nhpc.

also in secondary market it is still at premium because govt wants to trap people. unlike recltd which was almost at same price.

rememebr if there is huge diff between secondary market price and fpo price it is just to trap people.
also recltd was a finance company with bonds but engineers india have already given everything all money is scrapped out earlier.

i am pretty sure non instituional category will not get subscribed but they may be able to fool retailers again and again . other qib category to be subscribed by LIC
111. IPOExpert |   Link |  Bookmark | July 28, 2010 1:31:08 PM
Hi Guys,
Government is again ready for one more divestment
Although the price of FPO has been reasonably good but don't forget SJVN was also good priced, every brokerage house recommended to go for SJVN and the result is known to everyone.

Before applying in any govt. IPO/FPO think twice, because Govt. never acts like operator.After the IPO Govt just forget abt that (NHPC is the perfect example)

Good returns in REC was due to the reason that it was in Futures and everyone shorted it when the price band was declared.
Due to the short positions in Futures it went up high and high.

Govt. is holding the price till the cheques are cleared from the account.
NMDC was 450 before the FPO ended and after that everyone knows

Latest GMPS
EIL
Application 1300-1400
Share -10 Rs (discount 10 Rs)
Comission on Form:- 300

SKS
Application 2500
Share- 62-64

Happy Investing !!!
110. newstrack |   Link |  Bookmark | July 28, 2010 9:45:02 AM
it is good go for it for 5%discount gain
109. jpatwa |   Link |  Bookmark | July 27, 2010 11:08:29 PM
JUST LOOK AT GOV.'S GREED AGAIN IN ANOTHER WAY.......

gov. has declared bonus & stock split ( 10-5 ) few months back......

now look at dividned pay out.....

2008      Dec 45
2008      Jun 70

2009      Nov 60
2009      Jun 140

means in 2008 , total 110 % , 2009 total 200 % dividend EIL has given in 2 phases.....

now , gov. before disinvestment of 10% equity of EIL , given dividend of whooping 1000 % in 2010 january !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

y ??????

ANS - prior to this bonus & stock split , total equity was 56 crores out of which gov. holds , 50 crores....... so by giving 1000% dividend , gov. gets whopping 500 crores as a dividend & now selling it's stake.......

interesting thing to watch out is EIL'S total profit after tax ( PAT ) of last yr. (09-10 ) is only 435 crores !!!!!!!!!!! & co. has given dividend which costs 560 crores ( & may be more due to tax ) !!!!!!

means additional 130 crores has to be taken from reserve of co. !!!!!!!!

so , clearly d case in which gov. had suck as much as they could out of co. & now selling it in public......

this time price band is somewhat reasonable but cheating ppl by other way , really disguesting !!!!!!!!!!
108. sushilkumarshah |   Link |  Bookmark | July 27, 2010 10:17:33 PM
EIL IS A REGINABLE PRICE IPO
I THINK A GOOD RETURN FROM THIS IPO
APPLY IT
107. luck |   Link |  Bookmark | July 27, 2010 9:50:09 PM
It will give decent profits.
FPO will close for QIBs prior to retail investors
People will run for this after seeing QIB nos
106. prem |   Link |  Bookmark | July 27, 2010 7:44:14 PM
you are absolutely right @107.
main apke saath hoon.